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VSX-1124 vs. TX-NR636 vs. AVR-S900W vs...?

I'm in the market for a new receiver to replace my aging Denon AVR-3808ci. I only have a few requirements...

Must be HDMI 2.0, so if I ever get a 4K TV, I can get full 60hz from the receiver.

Must have at least 7 HDMI inputs, since I have a lot of gaming devices to hook up (Xbox One, Xbox 360, PS3, PS4, Apple TV, DirecTV receiver, and Wii U). Some of those devices will go away eventually, but I'll probably just get others to replace them.

Finally, my current TV is a Samsung UN65D8000, with a pair of Astro A50's hooked up to the toslink port on it. The new receiver must be able to mute the surround speakers, but still push audio through the HDMI to the TV, so the TV can push it to the optical port for the headset.

With those things in mind, and also considering that I'm not an audiophile, which of the 3 receivers would best suit my needs, or is there a better option out there?
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Look online for current reviews of the models listed. Here is a link to a review of the TX-NR636, which has 7 HDMI inputs and upscales to 4k


http://www.soundandvision.com/conten...36-av-receiver

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Keep in mind that any of those choices would be a downgrade in audio quality as they are lower level models compared to the higher level 3808CI. Also keep in mind that none of these models features HDMI 2.0 w/full bandwidth video/HDCP 2.2 so would not connect to an HDCP 2.2 device (whenever released) and would require passing video to the TV with audio to the AVR so you may want to consider last year's Denon X2000 which is on clearance and has the same version of Audyssey XT as the 3808CI.

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Jdsmoothie,

Is there something I'm not seeing? Both the Pioneer and Onkyo support HDMI 2.0, which I think is bound to HDCP 2.2 / a.k.a. 4K 60p video.
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Jdsmoothie,

Is there something I'm not seeing? Both the Pioneer and Onkyo support HDMI 2.0, which I think is bound to HDCP 2.2 / a.k.a. 4K 60p video.
Hdmi 2.0 and hdcp 2.2 are 2 separate standards. You can have hdmi 2.0 and not have hdcp 2.2 which is the case for most of this years avrs. At least on the lower price level.
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Hdmi 2.0 and hdcp 2.2 are 2 separate standards. You can have hdmi 2.0 and not have hdcp 2.2 which is the case for most of this years avrs. At least on the lower price level.
Well that just sucks. More info here: http://www.twice.com/news/news/first...h-market/43909

So apparently these do not have HDCP which makes the HDMI 2.0 somewhat/totally useless. I did see someone from Pioneer post last month in another thread that the 1124 was delayed due to an HDMI hardware chip-thing, but I'm assuming they'd call out if the amps were now HDCP 2.2 compliant.

So am I right or wrong that HDMI 2.0 with anything less than HDCP 2.2 makes the future proofing of that area moot?

Thanks!

EDIT: It does look like the Onkyo 636 has HDCP 2.2. Reading up on HDCP 2.2 no one is using it but apparently a lot of manufacturers distributors are going to? Anyone have any strong opinions on this matter? I got the 1124 today for 500 USD sans tax, so it's a solid 150 USD delta between the pioneer and the Onkyo...

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Here is a link to an Onkyo tx-nr636 for $547 with no tax and free shipping on eBay.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Onkyo-TX-NR6...item1e8c6b9ec4


Bought mine off eBay and it works great with Factory warranty.

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The onkyo has hdcp 2.2. The pioneer has 3 discrete zones with hdzone including 2 discrete hdmi outputs + another usb/network 2.0 zone.
Also preouts to zone2. The denon has lots of component video and less speaker binding posts and less zone2.
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