Originally Posted by BostonHxC
Zeus33 - I have been reading your input and responses to people on a couple of threads about the 2014 Onkyo lineup. Any particular reason you are so hostile over Onkyo dropping Audessey?
I have read all of you posts stating a strong case as to why you think AccuEQ sucks but you seem really pissed off for no good reason. I understand that you have graphs but have you actually used one of these new AVRs?
Hostile? No. Extremely disappointed? Yes! I just want to make sure that people understand they are getting an extremely sub par device if they purchase a model with AccuEQ. I have purchased Onkyos exclusively for 2 decades and recommended them highly to friends. I have had every version of Audyssey up to XT32. XT32 is simply staggering at the corrections it can make. It literally makes some setups sound like they have upgraded the equipment. Every person I know that has used it has been extremely impressed with the results as well. Going forward, I won't have a system without it or something that gives equivalent results (if that happens).
I see a lot of posts from people asking questions about stuff that has been discussed ad nauseum in multiple threads, so obviously some posters don't read a lot of the forum. I'm just trying to make sure that they understand what they are getting. A lot of people will think Room EQ is Room EQ and most of those people don't care enough about the sound to even care. Most of them will be so enamored with ATMOS, they probably won't even care. But, for the ones that want to know the real facts, I try to make sure they get them. There are multiple threads asking about AccuEQ vs Audyssey, is AccuEQ any good, so on and so forth. I just figured I would post that same info in the Onkyo specific threads. Like the 818 thread. A guy was pondering the purchase of an 838 and getting rid of his 818 that has XT32. So I provided the info.
As I mentioned, I have purchased Onkyo exclusively for two decades, and I will never buy another one unless they bring back XT32 or find software that can produce equivalent results for a reasonable price.
To answer your question, no, I have not used one of the new AVRs and there is no need for me too. The facts are right in front of me in black and white. Before I ever saw any graphs, I knew it would be garbage. You can't have successful room equalization when you measure from one position and ignore the front main speakers.
If you don't agree, by all means, go purchase one. But don't say I didn't warn you.
If you have interest in one, I highly recommend that you listen to an XT32 setup in your home first if any way possible and then demo one with AccuEQ. I can pretty much guarantee that you will choose XT32.
There are members here that don't like the sound that Audyssey gives them. For those members, Obviously it's a moot point. I think the ratio of those that don't like it to those that do is very lopsided for the ones that do, but to each their own. The bottom line is, do you like the sound it gives YOU? If so, they are great options.
BTW, I have heard Pioneer's version (MCACC?) and Yamaha's version and think they are both severely lacking compared to XT32 and they are similar to what AccuEQ does.