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ATI 600x Series Amplifiers

I am looking for a 5-7 channel amp and am taking a look at the newish ATI 600x series amplifiers. Does anyone own one of these? The few reviews I have read are very positive. I am also considering a McIntosh 8207, which is actually cheaper than the ATI.

From what I have heard the 2xxx series is essentially the same as what Outlaw sells. Is there a big step up from the 2 to the 6 series?

Any feedback greatly appreciated!
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Did you come to a decision? What did you buy?

I have a ATI 6007 connected to B&W 800 Diamonds and Diamond center and surrounds. The sound is fantastic, the amp gives the 800's all they need, and then some. My B&W dealer has their 800's driven by McIntosh 601's, and Diamond center and surrounds driven by MC8007. My setup sounds every bit as excellent as theirs, but I saved thousands on amplification.

I have no regrets, in fact I'm thrilled to complete satisfaction with my ATI 6007 driving my 7 B&W speakers.
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I have an ATI AT 2007 and an ATI AT 2004 amplifier, combined they give me 11 channels at 200w each. There build quality is impeccable and with a 7 year warranty what's not to like. If there 600 series is anything like there 2000 series you can't loose. I can run them all day and they barely get warm. Any of my future amp buys will be from them period. 3 years of ownership and not a single issue at all.


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I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of an ATI AT6007 today. I just moved into a house where I am getting ready to do my dream HT build. I spent a ton of time last night trying to figure out how the house is wired. It appears they pretty much exclusively used 20 amp circuits. I will be having an electrician add additional circuits in my media closet, but in the interim to test, will 1 20 amp outlet be OK for this big guy? I don't even have all my speakers in the new house (only have LCR). Leaving that all in place at the old house until GoT is over on Sunday night!
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You should be good to go but you need to ensure your outlets have 20 amp sockets as the plugs are different between 15 and 20 amp recepticals. Also I would not drive it to hard unless it's on a dedicated 20 amp circuit.

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You should be good to go but you need to ensure your outlets have 20 amp sockets as the plugs are different between 15 and 20 amp recepticals. Also I would not drive it to hard unless it's on a dedicated 20 amp circuit.
You will love the Signature AT6007.

I just replaced my Halcro amps with two of the AT6007s and noticed a significant improvement in sound clarity and depth. I was happy with my Halcros but these are cleaner, quieter, and have much more current which is always better. I expected very little but am very impressed.

Note - they run hot (no surprise) so make sure you've got plenty of ventilation.
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I thought it said that the 6007 should have each cord plugged into a 20 amp outlet as to not have voltage sag.

I would say if your speakers arent power hungry or your tastes aren't rock concert levels for 7 channels at the same time one dedicated 20 amp outlet should be fine.

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Surprised the 6000 series gets hot, those heatsinks are huge. Also I wonder with modules right against each other increases each other. I found 1807 got hot. Even in idle or low volumes and not exactly a huge room.

My 2003 and 2004 stay cold and barely warm. Each module has a few inches gap. That must help.

If you can afford 6000 series do it. But even the "cheapest" model is "only" 180W.
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I have speakers that love current and a large, dead room so i need to step on the gas pedal even though i mostly listen well below reference.

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I am biased. I work for ATI. That said, there is an exchange between David Vaughn and Steve Herrala in the Marantz 8802 thread. Their conclusion mirrors the published reviews: AT6000 series amplifiers are "best in class".

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This amp should have come with lower back surgery deductible insurance, lol. I'm 6 months out from back surgery, and I hope this amp did not just re-herniate my disc. FYI the plugs are not the special 20 amp prongs.
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This amp should have come with lower back surgery deductible insurance, lol. I'm 6 months out from back surgery, and I hope this amp did not just re-herniate my disc. FYI the plugs are not the special 20 amp prongs.
Any report now that you have been using it?
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You will love the Signature AT6007.

I just replaced my Halcro amps with two of the AT6007s and noticed a significant improvement in sound clarity and depth. I was happy with my Halcros but these are cleaner, quieter, and have much more current which is always better. I expected very little but am very impressed.

Note - they run hot (no surprise) so make sure you've got plenty of ventilation.
Are you running Atmos or Auro?
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I haven't been able to really put it through its paces, because I still don't have the power situation squared away in my media closet. However, the small bit of testing I have done with just LCRs connected (amp feed by Denon X5200) has been phenomenal! I currently have a 7.1 hooked up to just the Denon and it sounds like crap after my LCR demo with the amp. I should have the necessary outlets installed in the next few days. I'll be working on my Atmos speakers this weekend. I plan to hook up the amp for the 7 main channels, and use the Denon for the heights (7.1.4).
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No. i have a 9.3 with standard 7 plus 2 overheads and 3 subs. All of the subs have separate amps.

i have tri-wired the fronts and bi-wired the center
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Surprised the 6000 series gets hot, those heatsinks are huge. Also I wonder with modules right against each other increases each other. I found 1807 got hot. Even in idle or low volumes and not exactly a huge room.

My 2003 and 2004 stay cold and barely warm. Each module has a few inches gap. That must help.

If you can afford 6000 series do it. But even the "cheapest" model is "only" 180W.

I use an ATI 1807 for my 6 Triad Silver LCR's which are not easy speqkers to drive........1807 remain very cool to touch so am confused by your statement.



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I am biased. I work for ATI. That said, there is an exchange between David Vaughn and Steve Herrala in the Marantz 8802 thread. Their conclusion mirrors the published reviews: AT6000 series amplifiers are "best in class".

Jeff

In the last year I've gone from a Krell Evo 403, to a Halo by Parasound A-31 which I absolutely love, to an ATI 3007. I also currently own a Krell S-1507 and to be quite honest, my ATI 1807 sounds exactly the same. I'm done spending 5 figures on amplification.........my theater will be completely driven by ATI.

IMHO, ATI and Halo by Parasound are in a class by themselves concerning price and performance.......no more "Audiofoolery" for me.
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I am biased. I work for ATI. That said, there is an exchange between David Vaughn and Steve Herrala in the Marantz 8802 thread. Their conclusion mirrors the published reviews: AT6000 series amplifiers are "best in class".

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Is there such a thing as 6008? I think I need 8 channels.
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Is there such a thing as 6008? I think I need 8 channels.

No. If you need eight channels you're need 2 x 6004. I have 7 channels, so got a 2003 + 2004
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I am looking for a 5-7 channel amp and am taking a look at the newish ATI 600x series amplifiers. Does anyone own one of these? The few reviews I have read are very positive. I am also considering a McIntosh 8207, which is actually cheaper than the ATI.

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I am looking for a 5-7 channel amp and am taking a look at the newish ATI 600x series amplifiers. Does anyone own one of these? The few reviews I have read are very positive. I am also considering a McIntosh 8207, which is actually cheaper than the ATI.

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I'm reading that some people are commenting the 6000 series is overly bright.
Anyone know of this.
Are we talking Bryston bright?
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I bought the 6003 from Steve at Sound Video. I have it driving my Dali Epicon 6's and Vokel. I also use the Parasound A21 and A51. The ATI rocks and does not get warm. I'm feeding it 20 amps too. Trying to decide if I want to sell one of the A21's and the A51 to help cover the cost of an 6007 ATI.
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Not "bright" at all in my room which is quite dead to begin with so perhaps i wouldn't notice it. I have my fronts tri-amped and the sound is clean and clear on both low and high volume.

I'm also feeding both amps full power as recommended. I have a big room and frequently crank them up. When I said they were hot i meant that they get very warm to the touch but not truly hot. They need empty rack space above for cooling. It's not a problem for me because my closet has dedicated zone cooling.
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I've been doing some research on the ATI 6007 and I'm confused as to how the electrical should be hooked up. On the ATI website they say in the documentation that "2 independent 20 amp circuits should be used for greater sustained output power than is possible from a single AC circuit". Then in the operating manual it states that 2 independent circuits should be used. It also says that the 6007 must be plugged into separate 15 amp circuits. Anyone know the correct way to do the hookup? I've sent an e-mail to ATI but haven't heard back yet.
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I bought the 6003 from Steve at Sound Video. I have it driving my Dali Epicon 6's and Vokel. I also use the Parasound A21 and A51. The ATI rocks and does not get warm. I'm feeding it 20 amps too. Trying to decide if I want to sell one of the A21's and the A51 to help cover the cost of an 6007 ATI.
How does your 6003 compare to your Parasounds? Can you tell a significant difference?

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I've been doing some research on the ATI 6007 and I'm confused as to how the electrical should be hooked up. On the ATI website they say in the documentation that "2 independent 20 amp circuits should be used for greater sustained output power than is possible from a single AC circuit". Then in the operating manual it states that 2 independent circuits should be used. It also says that the 6007 must be plugged into separate 15 amp circuits. Anyone know the correct way to do the hookup? I've sent an e-mail to ATI but haven't heard back yet.
That sounds like it will work on two 15A circuits, but will be limited (in theory at least) compared to running on two 20A circuits.

My take is that if you're running new circuits anyway, the marginal cost difference between 15A negligible. So go 20A. But if you already have two 15A circuits in the room, don't bother.

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DS-21,
That's what I was thinking. I already have the 2 15 amp circuits, but I'm thinking replacing them by running some 12 gauge wire and going with the 20 amp breakers. It's a basement home theater so it's not to hard to run the electrical with a suspended ceiling outside of the theater. I have to check some old pics of my basement finishing to see what else is on the circuits.
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Unless your mains are like 80dB/W/m AND you listen at 85dB average levels, I wouldn't bother.

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How does your 6003 compare to your Parasounds? Can you tell a significant difference?

I found it to provide better imaging and significant amount of detail.


Now YMMV, some tracks FLAC, I heard no difference, on better recordings, the difference was more significant.

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I found it to provide better imaging and significant amount of detail.


Now YMMV, some tracks FLAC, I heard no difference, on better recordings, the difference was more significant.
Having made the exact same move as Dr_Mark, and partly due to his experiences, I can attest to the same!
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