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How do I get either the DTS: Neural X or Dolby Surround upmixer to work for uncompressed linear PCM 5.1 audio tracks? I recently bought Crimson Tide and Con Air on blu-ray. Both are good sounding tracks and the first blu-ray movies I own that use uncompressed linear PCM. However, they are only 5.1 and I have a 7.1 system. With these particular tracks, only my first 5 speakers are active. My 6th and 7th speakers (surround back) are inactive. I press the "info" button and it shows that those last 2 speakers are not highlighted in yellow-brown like these others.
Press the MOVIE button on the remote and select either "Multi In + Dolby Surround" or "Multi In + Neural:X".
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AV7702mkII Dolby Atmos setup question:

I have a 7.1 system, and want to use it in Dolby Atmos mode. I don't see how to configure this on my pre-amp...

My "surround" and "surround back" speakers are mounted on the side walls 12 feet high, and downward pointing to my listening position.

In my setup, on manual speakers/amp assign, it shows "floor" and "height" selections. Floor is setup to "5ch & SB". If I select "4ch" in Height speakers, the graphic shows an ADDITIONAL 4 ceiling speakers that I don't have. How can I get the Marantz to understand I have only four high-mounted surround and surround back speakers?

I want to enable Dolby Atmos but it seems the amp won't let me dual-purpose high mounted surrounds.

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I had the same quandary when I moved to the 7702 MKII. I was all set up for 9.1 and had my side surrounds and rear surrounds up high. They are inwall speakers. I had to move them down to ear level to get the separation the 3D sound needed. I love the difference in sound! It was well worth the upgrade to move those speakers down to ear level and mount the 4 ceiling speakers! That was a really challenge since my Theater Room has vaulted ceilings with no crawl space to run wires through. I actually had to run them exposed in channel tracks to get this to look good and work properly! It was so worth the extra work and proper set up. Atmos and DTS:X are awesome!

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Press the MOVIE button on the remote and select either "Multi In + Dolby Surround" or "Multi In + Neural:X".
will that work with the rears as well?

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will that work with the rears as well?
Did you read the OP's question?
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Got a couple of quick questions about the 5010.

I'm not quite in the market for a new receiver (my SR5006 is still going reasonably strong for now) but I am starting to look around at what's available and such. Right now these questions are mostly just out of curiosity, but... well we'll see what happens.

Anyway, my first question is about the difference between the SR5010 and the more current SR5011. I was looking at them and I'm sure there are differences but I didn't see anything that jumped out at me as being different when I compared the basic specs. So, if I were buying today, would there be any reason to pay more for the 5011?

Second question: I noticed in the manual and everywhere the SR5010 is advertised as being able to play DSD files. That's great, but it only addresses DSD in the form of files played via USB or over a network. I have a UD5005, and still sometimes play my SACD's the old fashioned way through that via an HDMI connection. Would the 5010 be able to play the DSD stream from the UD5005 natively? Or would it have to convert in the player to PCM before being sent over to the receiver (as it does not becuase unfortunatly my current SR5006 doesn't play DSD). Bonus follow up question: Is the situation re: SACD's played via HDMI any different for the 5011?

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Got a couple of quick questions about the 5010.

I'm not quite in the market for a new receiver (my SR5006 is still going reasonably strong for now) but I am starting to look around at what's available and such. Right now these questions are mostly just out of curiosity, but... well we'll see what happens.

Anyway, my first question is about the difference between the SR5010 and the more current SR5011. I was looking at them and I'm sure there are differences but I didn't see anything that jumped out at me as being different when I compared the basic specs. So, if I were buying today, would there be any reason to pay more for the 5011?

Second question: I noticed in the manual and everywhere the SR5010 is advertised as being able to play DSD files. That's great, but it only addresses DSD in the form of files played via USB or over a network. I have a UD5005, and still sometimes play my SACD's the old fashioned way through that via an HDMI connection. Would the 5010 be able to play the DSD stream from the UD5005 natively? Or would it have to convert in the player to PCM before being sent over to the receiver (as it does not becuase unfortunatly my current SR5006 doesn't play DSD). Bonus follow up question: Is the situation re: SACD's played via HDMI any different for the 5011?

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1. The SR5011 is able to use the new Audyssey MultEQ Editor phone app ($20) to enable the creation of your own custom EQ curves. It also will receive the Dolby Vision update later this year/early 2018.
2. Correct. You must upgrade to the SR6010/SR6011 to pass DSD over HDMI.
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1. The SR5011 is able to use the new Audyssey MultEQ Editor phone app ($20) to enable the creation of your own custom EQ curves. It also will receive the Dolby Vision update later this year/early 2018.
2. Correct. You must upgrade to the SR6010/SR6011 to pass DSD over HDMI.
Thanks! I don't care at all about the custom EQ editor, but Dolby Vision might be something I'd (someday) want. I'm disappointed about the DSD over HDMI situation. What an odd thing to choose to use as a differentiator. Obviously the 5000 series can decode DSD, so why limit it?

Anyway, I guess this shows me that I should probably wait another year or two at least. I'm not really ready to upgrade everything else in my setup yet anyway, I just got kind of curious about options and future proofing. Hopefully if I wait a bit I can get a 6000 series new enough to support Dolby Vision at a price closer to what I'm looking for. Of course with my luck, they'll stop supporting DSD over HDMI entirely by the time I'm ready to buy!
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Is this normal or is my unit defective?

I recently got a NR1506, and when I put my ear to the unit I hear a humming/buzzing sound. It's coming from mainly the top[ of the unit when it's on. It's audible when I get close to the unit around. It's a low hum/coil whine type sound.


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Is this normal or is my unit defective?

I recently got a NR1506, and when I put my ear to the unit I hear a humming/buzzing sound. It's coming from mainly the top[ of the unit when it's on. It's audible when I get close to the unit around. It's a low hum/coil whine type sound.


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Hi nyxagamemnon,

If you place your ear near where the hum is coming from, does the sound appear to be from the transformer? If so, there's likely a defect on the unit and needs to be returned for a replacement.

I have an older NR1504 and it's silent.

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Good evening!

I own a Marantz NR1606. I am extremely pleased with the performance for the past six months.

Today I encountered a weird problem with the speaker setup. I was trying to test the sounds from my Monitor Audio Bronze 6 Series speakers. I somehow messed it up. Not sure what I did, but there is no sound from the speakers anymore. I am not able to get past the sequence as shown in the attached figure. I am unable to use the arrow buttons on the remote from this point forward. I cannot hear any sound. I am now panicking.

Has anyone ever encountered this issue? Can you please pitch in? Your suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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Good evening!

I own a Marantz NR1606. I am extremely pleased with the performance for the past six months.

Today I encountered a weird problem with the speaker setup. I was trying to test the sounds from my Monitor Audio Bronze 6 Series speakers. I somehow messed it up. Not sure what I did, but there is no sound from the speakers anymore. I am not able to get past the sequence as shown in the attached figure. I am unable to use the arrow buttons on the remote from this point forward. I cannot hear any sound. I am now panicking.

Has anyone ever encountered this issue? Can you please pitch in? Your suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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Good evening!

I own a Marantz NR1606. I am extremely pleased with the performance for the past six months.

Today I encountered a weird problem with the speaker setup. I was trying to test the sounds from my Monitor Audio Bronze 6 Series speakers. I somehow messed it up. Not sure what I did, but there is no sound from the speakers anymore. I am not able to get past the sequence as shown in the attached figure. I am unable to use the arrow buttons on the remote from this point forward. I cannot hear any sound. I am now panicking.

Has anyone ever encountered this issue? Can you please pitch in? Your suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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Hi,
First of all don't panic. It isn't terminal and will likely be sorted out by a simple resetting of the system.
I have lost all sound on a number of occasions and my first trouble shooting approach is to shut everything off and then restart them. If this fails then I look at all the configurations of everything in the chain to confirm that the correct signal is being sent and received.
In my case a PC is the source and I check that Windows is working as expected. Make sure nothing is on mute. Check all connections. Pour yourself a drink and relax because you will probably find that it is something quite simple and easily rectified.
Good luck.
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I had something similar happen to me on my SR 7010 when I ran Audyssey a few weeks ago. It wouldn't get past the first speaker. I couldn't use the arrows to move forward or backwards and ended up having to do a hard reset to get it working again.
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Hi nyxagamemnon,

If you place your ear near where the hum is coming from, does the sound appear to be from the transformer? If so, there's likely a defect on the unit and needs to be returned for a replacement.

I have an older NR1504 and it's silent.

Where is the transformer located in the back or the front? Sound is coming more strongly from the front where that large heat sink array is and somewhat in the middle/back area
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Where is the transformer located in the back or the front? Sound is coming more strongly from the front where that large heat sink array is and somewhat in the middle/back area
Looking at the NR-1506 from the top, the transformer is located at the center-left side of the unit. Sitting next to the green PCB board, it's the largish rectangular grey box with two white connectors at each end in a north/south arrangement.

See the internal picture of the NR1506 here:

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Marantz SR 7010 DAC

Hi,
I have Marantz SR 7010 AVR with built-in AK4458 DAC.

I want to build a hi-res streamer (Raspberry Pi 3 + Allo Boss DAC) to play flac files from my NAS.
Allo Boss DAC is equipped with TI PCM 5122 chip.


Which DAC ( AK4458 or PCM 5122) is better for sound quality?

My idea is: NAS file server (all flac files) -> Rpi3 + Boss DAC -> 2 x RCA to analog in (AVR) -> Dali speakers.
This should bypass the internal DAC of the AVR, shouldn't it?

But I don't know which DAC is better ("external" = Boss DAC or "internal" in the Marantz AVR = Asahi Kasei AK4458 ).
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Hi,
I have Marantz SR 7010 AVR with built-in AK4458 DAC.

I want to build a hi-res streamer (Raspberry Pi 3 + Allo Boss DAC) to play flac files from my NAS.
Allo Boss DAC is equipped with TI PCM 5122 chip.


Which DAC ( AK4458 or PCM 5122) is better for sound quality?

My idea is: NAS file server (all flac files) -> Rpi3 + Boss DAC -> 2 x RCA to analog in (AVR) -> Dali speakers.
This should bypass the internal DAC of the AVR, shouldn't it?

But I don't know which DAC is better ("external" = Boss DAC or "internal" in the Marantz AVR = Asahi Kasei AK4458 ).
Hi legionow112,

What you say will work with the SR7010 providing the amplification from the source to the Dali speakers. Be sure to use the 7.1 analogue inputs.

As to the question of which DAC is better, it can only be determined by you and is subject to a number of parameters such as the room and setup of the sound reproduction chain. You might want to compare between the SR7010 DAC vs. your external DAC using the same source files in DIRECT/PURE DIRECT mode in a volume matched condition. The SR7010 has a separate setting for 2-channel playback that can be tailored to one's listening condition.

Please note that the room acts as a mechanical filter to the sound waves generated by your Dali speakers before reaching your ears.

Edit: As suggested by jdsmoothie, the 7.1 analogue inputs is all that's needed.

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I have my 7010 in a cabinet and I need to add some fans to it to help with ventilation. Anybody familiar with these? I was thinking of adding two of them. I have 2" above the receiver in the cabinet so I want the heat blown out the back.
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I have my 7010 in a cabinet and I need to add some fans to it to help with ventilation. Anybody familiar with these? I was thinking of adding two of them. I have 2" above the receiver in the cabinet so I want the heat blown out the back.
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Though a bit more expensive than what you initially linked to, the AC Infinity AIRCOM T8 looks more professional, exhausts the hot air to the back and only 1.5" in height - so it meets your needs.

I have also Dennis Murphy's in-between cooling solution which has an even lower z-height profile than the AC Infinity. The bonus being it's more cost effective. You can have at look at Dennis's solution here: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/360527054414?...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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Though a bit more expensive than what you initially linked to, the AC Infinity AIRCOM T8 looks more professional, exhausts the hot air to the back and only 1.5" in height - so it meets your needs.



I have also Dennis Murphy's in-between cooling solution which has an even lower z-height profile than the AC Infinity. The bonus being it's more cost effective. You can have at look at Dennis's solution here: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/360527054414?...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


I've seen that one. Was wondering if I could go the cheaper main difference being that the one I linked to is always on when the AVR is on. It would be very difficult to see a couple of them with my setup.


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I have my 7010 in a cabinet and I need to add some fans to it to help with ventilation. Anybody familiar with these? I was thinking of adding two of them. I have 2" above the receiver in the cabinet so I want the heat blown out the back.
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Looks impressive. Good price too. 15 bucks to save an amp is a good deal in my books.
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I've seen that one. Was wondering if I could go the cheaper main difference being that the one I linked to is always on when the AVR is on. It would be very difficult to see a couple of them with my setup.


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Hi tidwelr1,

The ideal way to cool the receiver is to have independent power to the fan(s) with a thermostat so that once the receiver shuts down, cooling of the components is on-going until the set-point temperature is reached. That's when the fan(s) are then turned off.

If you intend to connect fan(s) to the front USB of the receiver for power, the fan(s) will stop once the receiver is OFF and will take longer to dissipate the heat and cool the receiver. (Edit: As pointed out by jdsmoothie, the USB will still be 'hot' if the NETWORK CONTROL setting is 'ALWAYS ON', which is it's default state. If the NETWORK CONTROL is 'OFF ON STANDBY' then there's no power on the USB port).

The only option is to have the fan(s) running continuously via an independent USB power supply. If you're okay with this, the feedback on Amazon on the AC Infinity MULTIFAN S2 is generally positive. Don't know if any other Marantz owners have used the AC Infinity MULTIFAN S2 fans and can provide some feedback on how well they work.

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Hi legionow112,

What you say will work with the SR7010 providing the amplification from the source to the Dali speakers. Be sure to use the 7.1 analogue inputs and select DIRECT/PURE DIRECT mode to bypass any DSP on the SR7010.
It is not necessary nor is it possible to set the sound mode when using the 7.1 analog inputs.


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If you intend to connect fan(s) to the front USB of the receiver for power, the fan(s) will stop once the receiver is OFF and will take longer to dissipate the heat and cool the receiver.
This is only true if the Network Control setting is set to "Off in Standby" while leaving it set to the factory default of "Always ON" will continue to provide power to the USB jack when the AVR is set to Standby.
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For anyone else out there plagued by HDR banding issues introduced by their Marantz, I highly encourage you to report the issue to them so that they know this is an issue plaguing users. I've had the most luck communicating with their Twitter account - email support was dismissive and just told me to buy new HDMI cables (I've tested the same cables directly to my TV and do not see the issue).

Here is a video that I made to demonstrate the issue (make sure to view at 4k):
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I have tested the same setup on my friend's AV8802A and it doesn't produce this issue, so a fix is possible (hopefully in firmware).
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^ Thanks TrueDis for making the demo video to test the banding issue with Marantz gear.

You might want to also post the demo video in the 2016 Marantz thread here: *Official* Marantz 2016 NR-1607, SR-5011/6011/7011 owner's thread

Not sure if Denon receivers are also experiencing the same banding issue and would need to ask jdsmoothie to check out your demo video as I believe he's got a 4k Denon receiver. If jd hasn't got a UHD display yet, might have to wait a bit longer for a response...
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It is not necessary nor is it possible to set the sound mode when using the 7.1 analog inputs.




This is only true if the Network Control setting is set to "Off in Standby" while leaving it set to the factory default of "Always ON" will continue to provide power to the USB jack when the AVR is set to Standby.
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Very cool video. I wasn't using a Roku and my first banding experience was with Deepwater Horizon in the opener. Much of that banding is source related from the underwater robot, but I found some on my 7702MKII that was not there when direct to my OLED. This was with a player outputting 422 12bit for the UHD blu-ray. I now also have a player that is set to 10 bit 444 for UHD discs, but am still running around the Marantz with video because at this point I'm not sure what other errors it has.

Im guessing this is just a 12bit problem if your player is outputting 12 bit, and 10 bit 422/444 is fine.
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Your post got me thinking - is there a 10-bit video file I could download from somewhere, put on a USB stick, plug it in and play it on the SR7010?

I don't have any such source available (I checked, and my computer's videocard doesn't have this capability either), but if I could download a file like that, that would give me the ability to 'stress test' the PlugLug cable.

Is this possible? Links?
Better late than never, here's a great test file with plenty of blue sky to test for banding! http://demo-uhd3d.com/fiche.php?cat=uhd&id=144

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Better late than never, here's a great test file with plenty of blue sky to test for banding! http://demo-uhd3d.com/fiche.php?cat=uhd&id=144
Appreciate the reply. At that time, I was concerned about the capability of my PlugLug HDMI Cable, as far as being 18gbps capable. I recently purchased the Billy Lynn UHD BD, which is 4k/HDR/60Hz, and was happy that it played perfectly through my setup. So I'm good in that respect.

I've been reading some of the posts about banding, but to be honest, I haven't noticed it yet. Perhaps it's there, and I haven't paid attention to it.

And just to clarify concerning my original post - the SR7010 can't play video files on a USB stick - only audio files. So you'd need to access test files like this through a Roku or similar streaming device, or plug a USB stick into a capable UHD BD player like the Panasonic UB900. I actually have the Philips BDP7501, and it currently won't play 4k files from a USB stick.

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I posted this in the 8802A thread but have received no replies. Since I assume the 7702 MkII has the same firmware for DTS as the 8802A I'm posting it here as well.

Just got off the phone with Marantz about a display and output issue concerning DTS that I've had since I bought the unit in October and was waiting for a firmware upgrade fix. Since it hasn't happened I decided to contact them about it. They weren't any help. So am I the only one or has this already been mentioned in this thread?
There seems to be no way to play a DTS nor DTS-HD Master 5.1 or 7.1 mix as a 5.1 or 7.1 mix. On my unit, when I select DTS or DTS-HD Master as the playback format, the info screen shows either 5.1 or 7.1 as input signal, but always shows 11 channels as the output - and is actually outputting signal to the extra channels. This is without selecting Neural upmix. Dolby Digital and True HD don't work that way - 5.1 or 7.1 coming in displays and plays as 5.1 or 7.1 on the output and only upmixes when Dolby Surround overlay is added. Is this true on all units, concerning DTS?
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