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Onkyo TX RZ800 & RZ900

Just thought I would post the latest from Onkyo. (http://www.whathifi.com/news/onkyo-l...0-av-receivers). I'm a little disappointed because I don't think it will be able to do 7.1.4.


The TX-RZ800 (£1050) and TX-RZ900 (£1350) are the second batch of 2015 surround amps to come out of the new Onkyo and Pioneer AV collaboration and they come with a fresh new look...





We've already brought you news on Onkyo's budget AV amp offerings for this year, but now it's time for the manufacturer's premium models to take centre stage.
The first thing you'll probably notice from the pictures is that Onkyo seems to have moved on from the 'industrial' design of its most recent models such as the TX-NR3030, with a cleaner, dare we say more Pioneer-like approach to styling.
Besides the new look, the TX-RZ800 (185W per channel) and TX-RZ900 (200W per channel) are Dolby Atmos-enabled and DTS:X-ready. "Ready" because the amps will work with DTS:X straight out of the box only if the relevant firmware update is ready roll before the new models go on sale. Otherwise they will have to be updated in situ.
The 'RZ900 gets custom-designed electrical components honed for optimum sound quality, and a high-grade 32-bit/384kHz Asahi Kasei DAC.
The new receivers are also THX Select 2 Plus-certified and feature 4K-ready HDMI inputs and outputs, plus wi-fi, AirPlay and Bluetooth. Spotify Connect and Deezer are both built in as well. And, as you'd expect at this level, there's full high-res audio support via DLNA, including playback for DSD and 24-bit/192kHz FLAC files.
Onkyo has fitted dedicated speaker outputs for 'Height' effects should you want to put together a 5.1.2 Dolby Atmos configuration. There are also dedicated Powered Zone 2 outputs, so you can fire audio out to speakers in another room.
Both the TX-RZ800 and TX-RZ900 are due to go on sale in August.
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Just thought I would post the latest from Onkyo. (http://www.whathifi.com/news/onkyo-l...0-av-receivers). I'm a little disappointed because I don't think it will be able to do 7.1.4.


The TX-RZ800 (£1050) and TX-RZ900 (£1350) are the second batch of 2015 surround amps to come out of the new Onkyo and Pioneer AV collaboration and they come with a fresh new look...





We've already brought you news on Onkyo's budget AV amp offerings for this year, but now it's time for the manufacturer's premium models to take centre stage.
The first thing you'll probably notice from the pictures is that Onkyo seems to have moved on from the 'industrial' design of its most recent models such as the TX-NR3030, with a cleaner, dare we say more Pioneer-like approach to styling.
Besides the new look, the TX-RZ800 (185W per channel) and TX-RZ900 (200W per channel) are Dolby Atmos-enabled and DTS:X-ready. "Ready" because the amps will work with DTS:X straight out of the box only if the relevant firmware update is ready roll before the new models go on sale. Otherwise they will have to be updated in situ.
The 'RZ900 gets custom-designed electrical components honed for optimum sound quality, and a high-grade 32-bit/384kHz Asahi Kasei DAC.
The new receivers are also THX Select 2 Plus-certified and feature 4K-ready HDMI inputs and outputs, plus wi-fi, AirPlay and Bluetooth. Spotify Connect and Deezer are both built in as well. And, as you'd expect at this level, there's full high-res audio support via DLNA, including playback for DSD and 24-bit/192kHz FLAC files.
Onkyo has fitted dedicated speaker outputs for 'Height' effects should you want to put together a 5.1.2 Dolby Atmos configuration. There are also dedicated Powered Zone 2 outputs, so you can fire audio out to speakers in another room.
Both the TX-RZ800 and TX-RZ900 are due to go on sale in August.
I like the look of the receivers, too bad their still rolling with that crappy ACCUEQ bs lol. They will be rolling out a new batch of the higher end receivers here right shortly, something to be able to do 7.2.4
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I like the look of the receivers, too bad their still rolling with that crappy ACCUEQ bs lol. They will be rolling out a new batch of the higher end receivers here right shortly, something to be able to do 7.2.4
I guess I'll keep waiting patiently. I'm keeping a close eye on the Marantz SR 7010 but my last three receivers have been Onkyo and I've been pretty pleased.
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Are there going to be higher end units?? if not then these..are....very disappointing.........the TX-RZ900 has a Toroidal Transformer which is usually the top of the line unit for Onkyo. To me this means this is likely the top of the line unit. It is only a 7 channel unit and the max processing is 7.2 or 5.2.2 and this is useless to me.


I was hoping for at least a unit that could allow for the current minimum 7.2.4........and a return to XT32 (all they needed to do was add the needed processing power) and a lighted remote like the 3009/5009. The amps after the 3010/5010 units have been downgraded......no longer THX ULTRA 2 ........ I would like the amps brought back up to snuff....then I would be interested.
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I really doubt these will be Onkyo's top dogs. Oh btw ill take my RZ900 in silver please!!
http://canadahifi.com/onkyo-tx-rz900...160-receivers/
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Are there going to be higher end units?? if not then these..are....very disappointing.........the TX-RZ900 has a Toroidal Transformer which is usually the top of the line unit for Onkyo. To me this means this is likely the top of the line unit. It is only a 7 channel unit and the max processing is 7.2 or 5.2.2 and this is useless to me.


I was hoping for at least a unit that could allow for the current minimum 7.2.4........and a return to XT32 (all they needed to do was add the needed processing power) and a lighted remote like the 3009/5009. The amps after the 3010/5010 units have been downgraded......no longer THX ULTRA 2 ........ I would like the amps brought back up to snuff....then I would be interested.

It would appear that the 800 is the replacement for the 838 and the 900 is the replacement for the 929.

That would mean that there should still be new models coming to replace the 1030 (9.2 ch) and 3030 (11.2 ch) models. Audyssey is gone from Onkyo most likely forever. They added some features to AccuEQ, so it will probably be here to stay.
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I really doubt these will be Onkyo's top dogs. Oh btw ill take my RZ900 in silver please!!
http://canadahifi.com/onkyo-tx-rz900...160-receivers/

I'm hoping you are right.......and they make what I am hoping for. XT32 was never on all of the Onkyo units......only the top three........it was only removed due to lack of processing power when adding Atmos..........they can add XT32 back to the top units if they install the proper processing chips....like Denon on the 6200/7200. The removal of XT32 was not exactly well received by people who shop in that price range (me for one).
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It would appear that the 800 is the replacement for the 838 and the 900 is the replacement for the 929.

That would mean that there should still be new models coming to replace the 1030 (9.2 ch) and 3030 (11.2 ch) models. Audyssey is gone from Onkyo most likely forever. They added some features to AccuEQ, so it will probably be here to stay.

I thought the 848 was the replacement for the 838? As well as there should be a 1040 & 3040 models coming?
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I thought the 848 was the replacement for the 838? As well as there should be a 1040 & 3040 models coming?

What 848? People speculated that the 838's replacement would be the 848, but it never materialized. If you look at the specs and pricing on Onkyo's sight, the 800 appears to be the 838 replacement as I mentioned before.

http://www.onkyousa.com/Products/pro...class=Receiver

It appears that they are adopting a new model number format to go with the new chassis that they are using for the new models, so the 1030 and 3030 replacements will probably be the RZ1000 and RZ3000 or something similar. I doubt they will be the 1040 and 3040.
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Hopefully that's not the case as those units don't look very nice. I'd have to go back to the Yamaha RX-A line next time I upgrade.
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I think the new receivers look cool as hell lol. Im liking the new look a lot. I just wish they didn't have that dam ACCUEQ junk. Anybody have any information on if the newer version of ACCUEQ is a lot better and actually EQS the main front speakers instead of just the surrounds?
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Anybody have any information on if the newer version of ACCUEQ is a lot better and actually EQS the main front speakers instead of just the surrounds?

2015 AccuEQ

AccuEQ conducts two measurements- one to set the level, distance and crossover for ALL speakers, including the subwoofer, and a second measurement to eliminate standing waves. Choose to include or bypass EQ measurement for front left and right speakers, and choose to automatically or manually set the EQ. Further, you can save your own manual EQ settings into three available presets.
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Going back and rereading the article. Did Pioneer buy out Onkyo or is it vice versus? But either way I like the new design.
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Might not be all that relevant, but do we know if the AccuEQ does the DSP at up to 96khz still or do they work now at 192?
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I am in the boat with the fellas who think these new receivers look great! The silver colored units look awesome.
I am happy with my 838, but DTS:X is really tempting me. Even though there ain't no software yet!
Well done Onk'!
If somebody here on the forum gets a unit...please post pictures of the innards. We need to see everything!
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