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Old 06-23-2015, 01:26 PM - Thread Starter
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Onkyo TX RZ800 & RZ900

Just thought I would post the latest from Onkyo. (http://www.whathifi.com/news/onkyo-l...0-av-receivers). I'm a little disappointed because I don't think it will be able to do 7.1.4.


The TX-RZ800 (£1050) and TX-RZ900 (£1350) are the second batch of 2015 surround amps to come out of the new Onkyo and Pioneer AV collaboration and they come with a fresh new look...





We've already brought you news on Onkyo's budget AV amp offerings for this year, but now it's time for the manufacturer's premium models to take centre stage.
The first thing you'll probably notice from the pictures is that Onkyo seems to have moved on from the 'industrial' design of its most recent models such as the TX-NR3030, with a cleaner, dare we say more Pioneer-like approach to styling.
Besides the new look, the TX-RZ800 (185W per channel) and TX-RZ900 (200W per channel) are Dolby Atmos-enabled and DTS:X-ready. "Ready" because the amps will work with DTS:X straight out of the box only if the relevant firmware update is ready roll before the new models go on sale. Otherwise they will have to be updated in situ.
The 'RZ900 gets custom-designed electrical components honed for optimum sound quality, and a high-grade 32-bit/384kHz Asahi Kasei DAC.
The new receivers are also THX Select 2 Plus-certified and feature 4K-ready HDMI inputs and outputs, plus wi-fi, AirPlay and Bluetooth. Spotify Connect and Deezer are both built in as well. And, as you'd expect at this level, there's full high-res audio support via DLNA, including playback for DSD and 24-bit/192kHz FLAC files.
Onkyo has fitted dedicated speaker outputs for 'Height' effects should you want to put together a 5.1.2 Dolby Atmos configuration. There are also dedicated Powered Zone 2 outputs, so you can fire audio out to speakers in another room.
Both the TX-RZ800 and TX-RZ900 are due to go on sale in August.
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Just thought I would post the latest from Onkyo. (http://www.whathifi.com/news/onkyo-l...0-av-receivers). I'm a little disappointed because I don't think it will be able to do 7.1.4.


The TX-RZ800 (£1050) and TX-RZ900 (£1350) are the second batch of 2015 surround amps to come out of the new Onkyo and Pioneer AV collaboration and they come with a fresh new look...





We've already brought you news on Onkyo's budget AV amp offerings for this year, but now it's time for the manufacturer's premium models to take centre stage.
The first thing you'll probably notice from the pictures is that Onkyo seems to have moved on from the 'industrial' design of its most recent models such as the TX-NR3030, with a cleaner, dare we say more Pioneer-like approach to styling.
Besides the new look, the TX-RZ800 (185W per channel) and TX-RZ900 (200W per channel) are Dolby Atmos-enabled and DTS:X-ready. "Ready" because the amps will work with DTS:X straight out of the box only if the relevant firmware update is ready roll before the new models go on sale. Otherwise they will have to be updated in situ.
The 'RZ900 gets custom-designed electrical components honed for optimum sound quality, and a high-grade 32-bit/384kHz Asahi Kasei DAC.
The new receivers are also THX Select 2 Plus-certified and feature 4K-ready HDMI inputs and outputs, plus wi-fi, AirPlay and Bluetooth. Spotify Connect and Deezer are both built in as well. And, as you'd expect at this level, there's full high-res audio support via DLNA, including playback for DSD and 24-bit/192kHz FLAC files.
Onkyo has fitted dedicated speaker outputs for 'Height' effects should you want to put together a 5.1.2 Dolby Atmos configuration. There are also dedicated Powered Zone 2 outputs, so you can fire audio out to speakers in another room.
Both the TX-RZ800 and TX-RZ900 are due to go on sale in August.
I like the look of the receivers, too bad their still rolling with that crappy ACCUEQ bs lol. They will be rolling out a new batch of the higher end receivers here right shortly, something to be able to do 7.2.4
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I like the look of the receivers, too bad their still rolling with that crappy ACCUEQ bs lol. They will be rolling out a new batch of the higher end receivers here right shortly, something to be able to do 7.2.4
I guess I'll keep waiting patiently. I'm keeping a close eye on the Marantz SR 7010 but my last three receivers have been Onkyo and I've been pretty pleased.
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Are there going to be higher end units?? if not then these..are....very disappointing.........the TX-RZ900 has a Toroidal Transformer which is usually the top of the line unit for Onkyo. To me this means this is likely the top of the line unit. It is only a 7 channel unit and the max processing is 7.2 or 5.2.2 and this is useless to me.


I was hoping for at least a unit that could allow for the current minimum 7.2.4........and a return to XT32 (all they needed to do was add the needed processing power) and a lighted remote like the 3009/5009. The amps after the 3010/5010 units have been downgraded......no longer THX ULTRA 2 ........ I would like the amps brought back up to snuff....then I would be interested.
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I really doubt these will be Onkyo's top dogs. Oh btw ill take my RZ900 in silver please!!
http://canadahifi.com/onkyo-tx-rz900...160-receivers/
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Are there going to be higher end units?? if not then these..are....very disappointing.........the TX-RZ900 has a Toroidal Transformer which is usually the top of the line unit for Onkyo. To me this means this is likely the top of the line unit. It is only a 7 channel unit and the max processing is 7.2 or 5.2.2 and this is useless to me.


I was hoping for at least a unit that could allow for the current minimum 7.2.4........and a return to XT32 (all they needed to do was add the needed processing power) and a lighted remote like the 3009/5009. The amps after the 3010/5010 units have been downgraded......no longer THX ULTRA 2 ........ I would like the amps brought back up to snuff....then I would be interested.

It would appear that the 800 is the replacement for the 838 and the 900 is the replacement for the 929.

That would mean that there should still be new models coming to replace the 1030 (9.2 ch) and 3030 (11.2 ch) models. Audyssey is gone from Onkyo most likely forever. They added some features to AccuEQ, so it will probably be here to stay.
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I really doubt these will be Onkyo's top dogs. Oh btw ill take my RZ900 in silver please!!
http://canadahifi.com/onkyo-tx-rz900...160-receivers/

I'm hoping you are right.......and they make what I am hoping for. XT32 was never on all of the Onkyo units......only the top three........it was only removed due to lack of processing power when adding Atmos..........they can add XT32 back to the top units if they install the proper processing chips....like Denon on the 6200/7200. The removal of XT32 was not exactly well received by people who shop in that price range (me for one).
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It would appear that the 800 is the replacement for the 838 and the 900 is the replacement for the 929.

That would mean that there should still be new models coming to replace the 1030 (9.2 ch) and 3030 (11.2 ch) models. Audyssey is gone from Onkyo most likely forever. They added some features to AccuEQ, so it will probably be here to stay.

I thought the 848 was the replacement for the 838? As well as there should be a 1040 & 3040 models coming?
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I thought the 848 was the replacement for the 838? As well as there should be a 1040 & 3040 models coming?

What 848? People speculated that the 838's replacement would be the 848, but it never materialized. If you look at the specs and pricing on Onkyo's sight, the 800 appears to be the 838 replacement as I mentioned before.

http://www.onkyousa.com/Products/pro...class=Receiver

It appears that they are adopting a new model number format to go with the new chassis that they are using for the new models, so the 1030 and 3030 replacements will probably be the RZ1000 and RZ3000 or something similar. I doubt they will be the 1040 and 3040.
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Hopefully that's not the case as those units don't look very nice. I'd have to go back to the Yamaha RX-A line next time I upgrade.
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I think the new receivers look cool as hell lol. Im liking the new look a lot. I just wish they didn't have that dam ACCUEQ junk. Anybody have any information on if the newer version of ACCUEQ is a lot better and actually EQS the main front speakers instead of just the surrounds?
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Anybody have any information on if the newer version of ACCUEQ is a lot better and actually EQS the main front speakers instead of just the surrounds?

2015 AccuEQ

AccuEQ conducts two measurements- one to set the level, distance and crossover for ALL speakers, including the subwoofer, and a second measurement to eliminate standing waves. Choose to include or bypass EQ measurement for front left and right speakers, and choose to automatically or manually set the EQ. Further, you can save your own manual EQ settings into three available presets.
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Going back and rereading the article. Did Pioneer buy out Onkyo or is it vice versus? But either way I like the new design.
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Might not be all that relevant, but do we know if the AccuEQ does the DSP at up to 96khz still or do they work now at 192?
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I am in the boat with the fellas who think these new receivers look great! The silver colored units look awesome.
I am happy with my 838, but DTS:X is really tempting me. Even though there ain't no software yet!
Well done Onk'!
If somebody here on the forum gets a unit...please post pictures of the innards. We need to see everything!
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I am in the boat with the fellas who think these new receivers look great! The silver colored units look awesome.<br />
I am happy with my 838, but DTS:X is really tempting me. Even though there ain't no software yet!<br />
Well done Onk'!<br />
If somebody here on the forum gets a unit...please post pictures of the innards. We need to see everything!
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I'll post some pics when my RZ900 arrives. Pre-ordered it off Amazon last week for $1395. Price is back up to $1599 now. Gonna be hooked up to a Focal CC700 center, Focal 706 fronts and Focal 705 rears. Hopefully it does them justice.
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I am looking at getting the TX-RZ900. Any here have any idea why Onkyo seem to have dropped the
up-converting feature for 1080p and 4k ? This is usually a fairly popular Qdeo feature.






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I'll post some pics when my RZ900 arrives.
Looking forward to it!
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Looking forward to it!

Awwww man, sorry to disappoint but I canceled my pre order of the RZ900 today... With my specific setup I decided I don't need that much power and in turn wanted (sound) quality over (watt) quantity. I'm a little sad cause its a beautiful piece of work from the outside and I'm an onkyo fanboy. Definitely has some pioneer influence in it.

I ended up going with a Denon because I kept hearing all this noise about Audessy vs AccuEQ. AccuEQ basically calibrates distance and crossover, which any noob can do manually. It's almost worthless. Audessy does so much more than that (so I'm told, I'm a HT noob). Google AccuEQ vs Audessy. I can't explain anything I read but it all makes sense when you read it.

I ended up pre ordering a Denon X3200W from JD over at AVSience. He offers good discounts so give him a call. Scoot on over to the Denon 2015 thread and check it out.

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-receivers-amps-processors/2021353-official-2015-denon-s-series-x-series-avr-owner-s-thread-faq-hdcp-2-2-a.html

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If you look at the spec sheet the rz900 does not make even close to 200w per channel. The 200w rating is one channel driven @ 1 kHz @ 6 ohms (That is a very easy load to drive @ 1 kHz) and 140w X 2ch @ 6 ohms from 20-20000hz. Come on avr company's let's see real power ratings here. The S/N ratio is also worse than last year's models witch means a higher noise floor. The weight is also down 20%ish on all models compared to last year that usually means a smaller power supply. There is also no video processing no learning remote and quite a few other things removed. The one thing I like is the added usb on the back panel great for a usb fan.
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My last two receivers have been Onkyo and I have been very pleased with them. I am upgrading a few of my components and have my eye on this RZ900. The best I can do in my viewing room is 5.2.2 Would the RZ900 be a good choice or are future models likely to have something that I should hold out for. In this room, I will never go past the 5.2.2 Thanks for any input.
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My last two receivers have been Onkyo and I have been very pleased with them. I am upgrading a few of my components and have my eye on this RZ900. The best I can do in my viewing room is 5.2.2 Would the RZ900 be a good choice or are future models likely to have something that I should hold out for. In this room, I will never go past the 5.2.2 Thanks for any input.


Are you needing 4k. If not maybe there are better choices for same price or cheaper.


If it is for 4k then it is an excellent choice....Here are my PRO's and CON's as a 4k receiver

PRO's: 4K, HDMI 2.0a, HDCP 2.2, HDR, DTS:X, Atmos, 384kHz 32bit High grade DAC, Custom toroidal transformer


CON's: Only 7.2, No Marvell Qdeo upconverting,




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Are you needing 4k. If not maybe there are better choices for same price or cheaper.


If it is for 4k then it is an excellent choice....Here are my PRO's and CON's as a 4k receiver

PRO's: 4K, HDMI 2.0a, HDCP 2.2, HDR, DTS:X, Atmos, 384kHz 32bit High grade DAC, Custom toroidal transformer


CON's: Only 7.2, No Marvell Qdeo upconverting,






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Thanks for the feedback. Yes I do need 4k. I just bought a Samsung JS8500 last night so the reformation is officially underway.
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Thanks for the feedback. Yes I do need 4k. I just bought a Samsung JS8500 last night so the reformation is officially underway.


Very sweet choice of TV's you got yourself there. Mine will connect to my brand new XBR65X930C


Can't wait to get everything hooked up.
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Thanks. I just got the TV last night and had a blast fine tuning it today. It is really incredible. So glad with my choice.

Marantz SR7010, Samsung UN55JS8500, Oppo BDP-103D
Panamax M5400-PM, Kef iQ tower fronts, Kef iQ6c center
Kef iQ8ds surrornds, HSU Research VTF-2 MK4 dual subs
Kef Q100 front heights, Gallo Micro SE rear heights
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You need understand this system audyssey is exceeded,even Yamaha and many more have abandoned this system because it does not fit whit dolby atmos or ceilling speakers and surround speakers are very important ,this year all onkyo have calibration accu EQ ADVANCED,this system make calibration on front speakers and subs and alls ceillings speakers but when you have 2 subs or more you need sonometer for ajust perfectly .


I have onkyo tx-nr3030 and is very good ,and the first calibration ACCU EQ not ajust front speakers and sub but you no need put yours front speakers to large and the bluray to bitstreams and the ACCU EQ MAKE COMPENSATION to yours front speakers.

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You need understand this system audyssey is exceeded,even Yamaha and many more have abandoned this system because it does not fit whit dolby atmos or ceilling speakers and surround speakers are very important ,this year all onkyo have calibration accu EQ ADVANCED,this system make calibration on front speakers and subs and alls ceillings speakers but when you have 2 subs or more you need sonometer for ajust perfectly .


I have onkyo tx-nr3030 and is very good ,and the first calibration ACCU EQ not ajust front speakers and sub but you no need put yours front speakers to large and the bluray to bitstreams and the ACCU EQ MAKE COMPENSATION to yours front speakers.

Abandoned? Huh? Yamaha never used Audyssey. Onkyo abandoned Audyssey because when used with Atmos requires much more processing power which Onkyo didn't want to invest in so they created their own EQ which uses far less processing power. Not to mention Audyssey fits with Atmos and ceiling speakers just as well as any other brand of EQ if not better in fact.

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Lot of peoples speak against this system ECCU EQ .he never tried it and especially do we ever had.what he did to unfoundded Rumor.this nothing to do whit the strength of the Appliance everyoneknow that a good calibration must do whit your recever av and after take a sound lever meter and ajusted each speaker for equal sound, same to sub.
Onkyo was the first to contain dolby atmos collaboration whit dolby labs .the ECCU EQ system was designed spécifically for easy calibration,that people want.
This nothing to do with the strength of the Appliance.

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I'm having trouble finding out if these also have a plastic face like the entry levels or if they used metal?
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It comes with a thick Alum face to the RZ900/800








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Lot of peoples speak against this system ECCU EQ .he never tried it and especially do we ever had.what he did to unfoundded Rumor.this nothing to do whit the strength of the Appliance everyoneknow that a good calibration must do whit your recever av and after take a sound lever meter and ajusted each speaker for equal sound, same to sub.
Onkyo was the first to contain dolby atmos collaboration whit dolby labs .the ECCU EQ system was designed spécifically for easy calibration,that people want.
This nothing to do with the strength of the Appliance.
No offense to the poster but can anyone make any sense of this? My head was spinning after the second sentence.
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