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Old 02-07-2016, 07:33 AM - Thread Starter
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Looking for a good processor under $2000

Ok.i am thinking either an emotiva xmc1 or marantz av8801.music matters more to me.but some older processors can be had for a steal. Like krell hts,classe ssp 600,and lexicon mc 12b.question is do these old hi priced brands actually sound that much better?I have an oppo so that can handle the new codecs.

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Old 02-07-2016, 07:45 AM
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Used Denon AVP-A1HDCI with the XT32 upgrade. That's $8.5k worth of excellent sound, as long as you don't need 4K support.
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Will take a look at that.okay.i found it but that thing is too tall to get in my rack.

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Used Denon AVP-A1HDCI with the XT32 upgrade. That's $8.5k worth of excellent sound, as long as you don't need 4K support.
I thought I read that the Marantz 7702 and 8802 have bettered it in SQ

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Ok.i am thinking either an emotiva xmc1 or marantz av8801.music matters more to me.but some older processors can be had for a steal. Like krell hts,classe ssp 600,and lexicon mc 12b.question is do these old hi priced brands actually sound that much better?I have an oppo so that can handle the new codecs.

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Emotiva is trash IMO, and the word is that they offer zero customer support; ask anyone who has tried to get some.

The Marantz AV8802 is not bad, especially if you use balanced cables to your amplifiers.

I would get a Bryston SP3 or Arcam AV950 if I wanted top sound quality, but they are not cheap.

There's not a lot of Corvettes or Porsches in the showrooms for $20,000, either; maximum performance isn't free.
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I disagree re: the XMC-1 as trash. IMO it can hold its own - for home theater anyway - with more expensive processors such as the Krell Foundation and Anthem Statement D2v, especially when taking into account differrences in price.

At the <$2000 price you give, that would be my top choice.
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The only thing holding me back on the emotiva is having to hook it up to a computer to use the room correction.i just have wifi.not sure if I could use a laptop? ?

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It depends on your connection & throughput speed. Emo reccomends a hard line, but simply because of the amount of data being transferred.

If you can stream movies and/or play games through your wifi, you're probably ok but caveat emptor

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Ya my WiFi is really good...never have a problem streaming movies or anything.i like the emotiva and marantz.i would think they are both pretty good given the reviews and people that have them like them.

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Emotiva is trash IMO, and the word is that they offer zero customer support; ask anyone who has tried to get some.

The Marantz AV8802 is not bad, especially if you use balanced cables to your amplifiers.

I would get a Bryston SP3 or Arcam AV950 if I wanted top sound quality, but they are not cheap.

There's not a lot of Corvettes or Porsches in the showrooms for $20,000, either; maximum performance isn't free.
Emotiva is not a company to introduce new gimmicks annually. They do offer some of the best after the sale support and warranty support in the industry. Read all the reviews about the poor service offered by most of the others. You will always get assistance form and English speaking person at Emotiva. Sadly that is not true of most others.

Hope the 8802 has fewer problems than reported with the 7702. Very slow turn around time for repairs if you can even get authorization to have it repaired.

Odd that you include Corvette in the maximum performance category.
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So for sound for 2 channel and sacd/DVD audio,would an old krell hts 7.1 or classe ssp 600 be that much better than the marantz av8801 or emo xmc1?

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I can whole heartedly recommend the XMC-1 . It does have a few small quirks for some people , I have not experienced any myself. You can call Emotiva and easily get Big Dan on the phone, I have spoke with him myself and he is a stand up guy. I know no other AV company you can do that with. Using wireless for Dirac is perfectly fine you should have not problems what so ever and the sound quality is the best my ears have heard. You get 30 days to try it so not too much to loose .
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I thought I read that the Marantz 7702 and 8802 have bettered it in SQ
Unlikely on the 7702, and the 8802 is not under $2000, per original request.
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I can whole heartedly recommend the XMC-1 . It does have a few small quirks for some people , I have not experienced any myself. You can call Emotiva and easily get Big Dan on the phone, I have spoke with him myself and he is a stand up guy. I know no other AV company you can do that with. Using wireless for Dirac is perfectly fine you should have not problems what so ever and the sound quality is the best my ears have heard. You get 30 days to try it so not too much to loose .
Always a big plus when you have good support! Power sound audio got my subwoofer needs that way plus a great product.

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Odd that you include Corvette in the maximum performance category.
"So quick was the $100,245 Z06 — Corvette’s 650-horsepower performance model — that in the nine-year history of the famed Lightning Lap only one car has ever recorded a faster time: the 2014 Porsche 918 hybrid, a carbon-fiber cyborg from the future that costs nearly nine times as much the Corvette. The $875,175 Porsche was faster by a mere 1.5 seconds. That’s over $250,000 per half second."

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Go buy one, rent a track and let me drive and you'll s**t yourself. He mentioned it probably because of the above.
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Ok.i am thinking either an emotiva xmc1 or marantz av8801.music matters more to me.but some older processors can be had for a steal. Like krell hts,classe ssp 600,and lexicon mc 12b.question is do these old hi priced brands actually sound that much better?I have an oppo so that can handle the new codecs.

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None of that says what you plan to use it for, what your needs are, and why you're specifically looking for a processor in that price range and not an AVR.
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None of that says what you plan to use it for, what your needs are, and why you're specifically looking for a processor in that price range and not an AVR.
Music first.i think I stated that in the beginning of thread. I'm rebuilding.i had a very nice system 5 yrs ago
A divorce made that go away.i have a great reciever (onkyo txnr3007)using a crown xls 2500 for my fronts atm.but will get a 5 channel amp for the rest of speakers.prolly crown. Yes .crown XLS is great for home apps believe it or not. I never did til I tried.my system is double duty.movies/music.but I am more critical with music. Btw.....
Porsche rocks . I'll take a 918 any day!since some one started car analogies[emoji1]but then again feel free to give me a corvette! Jeez, I can only afford 2gs on a damn processor.lol

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Music first.i think I stated that in the beginning of thread. I'm rebuilding.i had a very nice system 5 yrs ago
A divorce made that go away.i have a great reciever (onkyo txnr3007)using a crown xls 2500 for my fronts atm.but will get a 5 channel amp for the rest of speakers.prolly crown. Yes .crown XLS is great for home apps believe it or not. I never did til I tried.my system is double duty.movies/music.but I am more critical with music. Btw.....
Porsche rocks . I'll take a 918 any day!since some one started car analogies[emoji1]but then again feel free to give me a corvette! Jeez, I can only afford 2gs on a damn processor.lol

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Below clipping, all amplification sounds the same. For just two channel, there is lots of inexpensive used high end gear kicking around. Then get an AVR with passthrough for the two channel stuff.

Amplification is only needed in really niche situations when you have speakers that are really hard to drive.
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"So quick was the $100,245 Z06 — Corvette’s 650-horsepower performance model — that in the nine-year history of the famed Lightning Lap only one car has ever recorded a faster time: the 2014 Porsche 918 hybrid, a carbon-fiber cyborg from the future that costs nearly nine times as much the Corvette. The $875,175 Porsche was faster by a mere 1.5 seconds. That’s over $250,000 per half second."

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Go buy one, rent a track and let me drive and you'll s**t yourself. He mentioned it probably because of the above.
1.5 sec in the car world is a big difference... That being said I still agree the Corvette is a performance car and a hell of a bargain one at that. Have to disagree with you on your amp comment though. I did a side by side comparison of my PS Audio 200cx vs my qsc usa 900 and the PS Audio sounds way better. The QSC is a nice amp especially for the money but there is a difference in sound for sure. If the damn 200cx didn't have a issue shutting down all the time (Even at low volume) I would use it over the qsc any day...
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Crown recommends their xls drive core for home use.as did Andrew Robinson who listed it in his top 5 amp chioces.after reading all the comments in his thread I tried it.ive had a rotel rmb 1095/rotel rb 1090 and earthquake cinenova grand.the crown to me is right there with them. After all an amp is only supposed to amplify the sound of the proccessor.think I have a good line on an anthem d2v.will decide tomorrow.was going to get the marantz av8801 since they are so cheap now in price. But I think the anthem will be noticeably better..hence the price difference.

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So what did you decide?

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The anthem got sold on me. .sooo.I'm still looking.lol. av7702 marantz mkii and anthem avm50v2 3d on the radar now. I would think the anthem is better for music. ..I hate decisions.need to make a few calls after work.

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Well, you win some you lose some.

I wouldn't sleep on the XMC. I've had it, the D2v(3D) and the Krell foundation in my room, and the Emo is no slouch.

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Well found a good price on an anthem avm50v2 3d.so we'll see how I like that.

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Well, you win some you lose some.

I wouldn't sleep on the XMC. I've had it, the D2v(3D) and the Krell foundation in my room, and the Emo is no slouch.
Goin to hook up the anthem and try it a few weeks.i have a feeling I might sell it and try the emo.i really would like an old classe ssp 600.but idt I could live without the hdmi...idk.kinda fun to sell and buy and try til ur content.if any of us ever are.lol

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