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Denon and Marantz Announce Auro 3D Paid Upgrade for 2015 AVRs (and a Pre/Pro)

In two separate, simultaneous press releases, sister companies Denon and Marantz announced an upgrade to the Auro 3D immersive audio format for several AVRs and a pre/pro. This $200 download expands the selection of current (2015) Auro 3D-compatible devices the companies offer to three each for Denon and Marantz.

Marantz offers the upgrade to Auro 3D—effective immediately—on its SR7010 AVR and AV7702mkII pre/pro. Similarly, Denon's Auro 3D update is now available to purchase and download for its AVR-X4200W and the AVR-X6200W AVRs. Once activated and installed, the Auro 3D update will allow these AVRs and pre/pros to render immersive audio to either a 9.1-channel or 10.1-channel speaker system (except for the Denon AVR-X4200W which can only handle 9.1 channels)

Auro 3D is the original 3D immersive audio format and was created by the iconoclastic Wilfried Van Baelen, the CEO of Auro Technologies. It differs from Dolby Atmos and DTS:X in several ways, one being that Auro 3D demands a very specific speaker layout that's not necessarily fully compatible with its competitors. For example, the "Voice of God" channel, which is located directly above the audience, is unique to Auro 3D.

You may wonder why you should consider a third immersive audio format when Atmos and DTS X are already included with these AVRs and pre/pros at no extra charge, especially when Dolby Atmos has a clear lead in terms of movie releases. One potential reason is the Auro-Matic upmixing engine, which offers a way to experience existing music and movies with enhanced 3D audio effects. I sampled Auro-Matic at CE 2016, and the result was very impressive.

I happen to (currently) have a Marantz SR7010 in for review. Thanks to this upgrade, I should be able to perform a thorough comparison between the three competing immersive audio formats and their respective upmixers, so stay tuned for that!
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Important to note the Auro-3D upgrade has been available for the higher 2014 D+M models since Oct 2014, with the update for the below listed 2015 models just recently released.

I discuss the download/install procedure for each brand at the end of each of the linked posts below:


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The "OFFICIAL" 2015 Denon "S-series" / "X-series" AVR Owner's thread + FAQ (HDCP 2.2)


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*Official* Marantz 2015 NR-1506/1606, SR-5010/6010/7010 & AV7702mkII owner's thread
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Thanks. Same procedure either way. But fixed the link.
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Choice. The hardware is capable - its a USP, and means all immersive formats under one lid.

As OP mentioned - "very impressive".

There are many who won't bother upgrading - but other AVR customers do not have the "choice".
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Is there a speaker layout which will work good for all three formats? If not I don't see a compelling reason to get this update myself.

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Choice. The hardware is capable - its a USP, and means all immersive formats under one lid.

As OP mentioned - "very impressive".

There are many who won't bother upgrading - but other AVR customers do not have the "choice".
What's happening wl1! I've got to say when I purchased my Onkyo 809 back in 2011 you were by far the most knowledgable and helpful forum member. Sadly, it fell victim to the HDMI issue and I upgraded to a Marantz sr7010. To get back on topic I think I'll pay for the upgrade just so I've got all of the audio codecs covered. I've recently purchased 4 Klipsch rb-51 II's for my ceiling speakers. Install will be mid April and looking forward to experiencing the difference for myself.
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Thanks. My 809 bit the dust too. I have the X7200WA - and get all the top tips from JD these days.

I got the Auro update - curious that way, no regrets - It works really well. I have side height speakers, it would seem those who have ceiling speakers are less enthusiastic.


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Thanks. My 809 bit the dust too. I have the X7200WA - and get all the top tips from JD these days.

I got the Auro update - curious that way, no regrets - It works really well. I have side height speakers, it would seem those who have ceiling speakers are less enthusiastic.


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Well, only so many options for ceiling mount. I'll just have to make due with the Atmos configuration.
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Got the notification on my 4200 but didn't realize it was a paid feature. I currently have a 5.2.2 setup and was wondering if the Auro 3D upgrade would be worth it?
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Denon and Marantz Add Auro 3D to AVRs and Pre/Pro

You should sit it out a bit. It really needs 4 height.
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You should sit it out a bit. It really needs 4 height.
How does Atmos/DTS X sound with your speakers configured with side heights?
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With DENON announcing that their x4200 AVR is now AURO 3D upgradeable, I will be waiting to see if DENON will offer the DTSX upgrade path for my Denon X4100
Should I hold my wallet while I am holding my breath?
So far, Denon is mute on the subject!

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Denon and Marantz Add Auro 3D to AVRs and Pre/Pro

I think as good as the Mix, TBH. All sound great to me.
With up mixers, it varies. For Movies, I go DTS:X Nueral mainly, as its new, more active too. Auromatic occasionally, especially if a lot of music within the soundtrack. DSU only when Dolby TrueHD. This is marginally least fav - putting that down to side heights. It's also the least used because of the recent restriction within the X7200 - I would need to output PCM to be able to use it more. I just don't.

Nice to have a choice though.
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Got the notification on my 4200 but didn't realize it was a paid feature. I currently have a 5.2.2 setup and was wondering if the Auro 3D upgrade would be worth it?
I think you need at least front and rear height speakers for it to be worth it.
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With DENON announcing that their x4200 AVR is now AURO 3D upgradeable, I will be waiting to see if DENON will offer the DTSX upgrade path for my Denon X4100
Should I hold my wallet while I am holding my breath?
So far, Denon is mute on the subject!
Don't buy new hardware yet, Auro 3D is worth it if you have the height speakers
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With DENON announcing that their x4200 AVR is now AURO 3D upgradeable, I will be waiting to see if DENON will offer the DTSX upgrade path for my Denon X4100
Should I hold my wallet while I am holding my breath?
So far, Denon is mute on the subject!
Auro 3D has always been planned for the X4200W. Unfortunately, DTS:X will only be released to the 2015 models, so not to the 2014 X4100W.

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My new Marantz 8802a is bugging me about this update. I think my question is pretty simple, why is this worth $200 and what sources actually use it (or will continue to use it) over Atmos? All the Blurays (HD or UHD) are Atmos. I'm still trying to figure out how to get 4 height speakers in my ceiling though.

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My new Marantz 8802a is bugging me about this update. I think my question is pretty simple, why is this worth $200 and what sources actually use it (or will continue to use it) over Atmos? All the Blurays (HD or UHD) are Atmos. I'm still trying to figure out how to get 4 height speakers in my ceiling though.
All of the Auro 3D BDs currently available are based out of Europe, however, those that have installed the "upgrade" generally prefer using the Auro-Matic height speaker simulator over using DSU when listening to music.

Refer to the Auro 3D thread for more info ....

The official Auro 3D thread (home theater version)

Also refer to post 1 of the Marantz AV8802 Owner's thread linked below on how to turn the "upgrade" notice off.

Marantz AV8802 13.2 XLR Pre/Pro **Official Thread**

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