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When I re-calibrate, maybe I should set all speakers to small?
So that the crossover is 80 Hz?
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I have run the Audyssey setup three times on my new Marantz SR6011
But every time the subwoofer is virtually non-existant
I have changed nothing on the subwoofer (more than fine with MCACC on my old Pioneer)
Dynamic EQ and stuff like that has been disabled on the Marantz
But I have to turn the volume on the back of the subwoofer up to max to get satisfactory deep bas
What am I doing wrong?
I just had the same problem with a SR6011 I changed the subwoofer cable.

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When I re-calibrate, maybe I should set all speakers to small?
So that the crossover is 80 Hz?
Definitely recommended in most cases to set speakers to SMALL if you're using a subwoofer. If your fronts are set to LARGE, that could easily be one reason why you don't have much (or any) activity from the sub.

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That will depend on your room dynamics, speakers, and hearing capability, but if you don't need any of the extra features on the SR7011 (ie. HD Radio, Zone 3, Custom 2CH settings, 2 line front panel display, 2nd main zone monitor output for PJ, Auro 3D upgradeable - $199, Learning remote, built-in HEOS module - able to receive currently 12 different music streaming services as well as stream 2CH audio to HEOS speakers setup around the home) then the SR6011 should serve you well.
Thanks JD.

It sounds like your saying that the sound quality between the two models is negligible and the price difference is mainly due to features?
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Thanks JD.

It sounds like your saying that the sound quality between the two models is negligible and the price difference is mainly due to features?
I'm saying it depends on several factors as to whether the SR7011 will sound better; however, you still can't go wrong with the SR6011.
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After waiting to 10 days for my new Paradigm in-wall speakers to arrive, as well as our electrician the install date is tomorrow at 9 AM.

Basically, as my previous posts detail, I will be attempting to go from a 5.1.0 non-Atmos config to a 5.1.2 Atmos-enabled speaker setup.
So far the 7011 has impressed; hoping to take it to the next level tomorrow.
OK I'm starting this process off by figuring out which zone 2 and zone 3 speaker (in mono) is the closet to my listening position (the cables were never marked by the installer). However, when I unplugged one set (positive/negative) of zone 2 speakers cables both zone 2 speakers stopped playing (I would have expected the other speaker to keep playing).

This is odd enough, but it gets worse...

While waiting for the new rear surround speakers to be installed, I manually reset the amp assignment to 7.1 (Zone A/B mono), plugged in one speaker for each zone (as the online guide illustrates). Neither mono speaker is playing. Maybe the 7011 knows the new rear speakers are not connected yet and won't play the zone speakers? This could be a giant issue if after connecting the new speakers and auto configuring the zone mono speakers won't work.

In the meantime I reset the amp assign to 5.1 + Zone A/B, re-connected both pairs of speakers and everything is working again. What the hell???

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Thanks JD.

It sounds like your saying that the sound quality between the two models is negligible and the price difference is mainly due to features?
I never owned the 701X model Marantz Receivers, but I did own an SR5010 and now I have an SR6011. The main bump in quality I believe came from the Audyssey XT32 processing more than the additional watts or DAC (could be the same DAC don't know). I'd imagine since Audyssey XT32 is the same in the 7011 as in the 6011, my wallet would like to believe that the sound quality could possibly be "better" on some scale or on paper, but mostly negligible. I think if you get the SR6011 and the sound quality seems "Bad", then there is something else wrong with your setup and I doubt the 7011 would be the magic fix. Personally I don't care for or need HEOS or some of the other features so I went with the SR6011 for the built in 9 powered speakers with the flexibility to process an additional 2 more with external amp. That is perfect for my current situation. I was stuck with 5.1.2 with the SR5010.

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OK I'm starting this process off by figuring out which zone 2 and zone 3 speaker (in mono) is the closet to my listening position (the cables were never marked by the installer). However, when I unplugged one set (positive/negative) of zone 2 speakers cables both zone 2 speakers stopped playing (I would have expected the other speaker to keep playing).

This is odd enough, but it gets worse...

While waiting for the new rear surround speakers to be installed, I manually reset the amp assignment to 7.1 (Zone A/B mono), plugged in one speaker for each zone (as the online guide illustrates). Neither mono speaker is playing. Maybe the 7011 knows the new rear speakers are not connected yet and won't play the zone speakers? This could be a giant issue if after connecting the new speakers and auto configuring the zone mono speakers won't work.

In the meantime I reset the amp assign to 5.1 + Zone A/B, re-connected both pairs of speakers and everything is working again. What the hell???

Your post is unclear to me. Why are you sending a "mono" signal to 2 speakers? The installer likely has them connected in series such that when you disconnected the first speaker getting the signal then the second could not receive a signal either.

When AMP ASSIGN = 7.1 + Zone 2/3 (Mono), the Zone 2/3 speakers would be connected to each of the +/- Height 2 speaker posts so the missing Surround Back speakers have nothing to do with them.

When AMP ASSIGN = 5.1 + Zone 2/3, the Zone 2 speakers are connected to the Height 1 speaker posts and the Zone 3 speakers are connected to the Height 2 speaker posts.
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Your post is unclear to me. Why are you sending a "mono" signal to 2 speakers? The installer likely has them connected in series such that when you disconnected the first speaker getting the signal then the second could not receive a signal either.

When AMP ASSIGN = 7.1 + Zone 2/3 (Mono), the Zone 2/3 speakers would be connected to each of the +/- Height 2 speaker posts so the missing Surround Back speakers have nothing to do with them.

When AMP ASSIGN = 5.1 + Zone 2/3, the Zone 2 speakers are connected to the Height 1 speaker posts and the Zone 3 speakers are connected to the Height 2 speaker posts.
Thanks for your response. Right now I have 5.1 speakers in my family room, and a pair of speakers in two other rooms (Zone A/B).

My plan is to change the amp assign to 7.1 + Zone 2/3 (Mono) since I am adding a pair of height speakers to my family room. With the remaining two channels, I want to drive one speaker each in the two other rooms.

Your post got me thinking; Perhaps the two other pair of speakers were not connected individually, but in series. If that is the case, then I will have the electrician fix that while he is here.

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Thanks for your response. Right now I have 5.1 speakers in my family room, and a pair of speakers in two other rooms (Zone A/B).

My plan is to change the amp assign to 7.1 + Zone 2/3 (Mono) since I am adding a pair of height speakers to my family room. With the remaining two channels, I want to drive one speaker each in the two other rooms.

Your post got me thinking; Perhaps the two other pair of speakers were not connected individually, but in series. If that is the case, then I will have the electrician fix that while he is here.
For clarity ... the term "Zone B" normally means a mirrored main zone signal going to a second set of speakers either in the same room (eg. Front B - when a second set of FL/FR speakers is used for music only) or in another room, while the term "Zone 2 or Zone 3" means either the same or a totally independent signal can pass to these other room speakers.
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I never owned the 701X model Marantz Receivers, but I did own an SR5010 and now I have an SR6011. The main bump in quality I believe came from the Audyssey XT32 processing more than the additional watts or DAC (could be the same DAC don't know). I'd imagine since Audyssey XT32 is the same in the 7011 as in the 6011, my wallet would like to believe that the sound quality could possibly be "better" on some scale or on paper, but mostly negligible. I think if you get the SR6011 and the sound quality seems "Bad", then there is something else wrong with your setup and I doubt the 7011 would be the magic fix. Personally I don't care for or need HEOS or some of the other features so I went with the SR6011 for the built in 9 powered speakers with the flexibility to process an additional 2 more with external amp. That is perfect for my current situation. I was stuck with 5.1.2 with the SR5010.
I can concur with the bump up in quality from XT32. I just upgraded from a 6008 (no XT32) to a 6011 (thanks @jdsmoothie ) and it sounded better than the 6008 did without the level tweaking I did (mainly on the sub). I've had my 6011 and am very glad I upgraded. Now I'm in the throes of tweaking things for my new Atmos enabled speakers.

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First time receiver buy. Im looking at either the nr-1507 or the nr-1607. The biggest draw for me is the height of the units my cabinet only has about 6.75" clear so its a little to tight for most receivers but it should give me around 2.5" Im just having a little trouble finding answers on a couple questions that. I believe the answers will be the same for both units. First question does this unit allow switching of the hdmi inputs while in standby. There will be alot of times where I want to just listen to audio through the tv speakers and be able to switch inputs. Second I would like to start with a 3.1 speaker setup and then add the two surround speakers later. The manual doesnt make any reference to a 3.1 setup. Will the surround sounds be mixed through the front speakers or will that sound just be lost?
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First time receiver buy. Im looking at either the nr-1507 or the nr-1607. The biggest draw for me is the height of the units my cabinet only has about 6.75" clear so its a little to tight for most receivers but it should give me around 2.5" Im just having a little trouble finding answers on a couple questions that. I believe the answers will be the same for both units. First question does this unit allow switching of the hdmi inputs while in standby. There will be alot of times where I want to just listen to audio through the tv speakers and be able to switch inputs. Second I would like to start with a 3.1 speaker setup and then add the two surround speakers later. The manual doesnt make any reference to a 3.1 setup. Will the surround sounds be mixed through the front speakers or will that sound just be lost?
First, there is no NR1507, rather the 2015 NR1506 was continued for 2016.

1. NR1506 - No, NR1607 - Yes; The RC Source Select feature was only first introduced with the 2016 models.
2. Yes. Either model can do as little as a stereo 2.0 setup. Anytime you have a smaller setup than the original audio signal being received, the audio is down-mixed to the existing speakers.
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Hi guys.

Does the SR6011 has enough power/current to drive B&W 683S2 speakers (sensitivity 89dB) ?

i have all set from B&W 68xS2 line, using in a 5.1 setup.

The SR7011 have a much higher price than SR6011, that i couldn´t find a great reason or extra funcionality to really worth it for my use. Only the power output, but i can use a 2ch power in pre-out of 6011 if it make any difference for better quality sound.

In audio comparison (6011 and 7011), will AV7702MKII with MM7055 do a much difference in terms of atmos/dts-x / dts-hd / true-hd, a channel separation, clarity of effects, etc;..?

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Thanks for your response. Right now I have 5.1 speakers in my family room, and a pair of speakers in two other rooms (Zone A/B).

My plan is to change the amp assign to 7.1 + Zone 2/3 (Mono) since I am adding a pair of height speakers to my family room. With the remaining two channels, I want to drive one speaker each in the two other rooms.

Your post got me thinking; Perhaps the two other pair of speakers were not connected individually, but in series. If that is the case, then I will have the electrician fix that while he is here.
Everything is done. Here is a summary of what happened:
1) The installation of the new back surround speakers went OK, as expected.
2) My Zone 2 speaker setup had 2 problems: First, the pair was wired in series; Second, the wires were mis-labeled on the receiver end; Both issue were fixed
3) My Zone 3 speakers were also wired in series; This was fixed as well
4) Amp assign was set to 7.1 + Zone 2/3 (mono).
5) Auto-calibration was run; all 7 speakers plus subwoofer were correctly identified and adjusted.

I first tested the setup with the 4K version of "The Martian". Dolby Atmos is now available and was selected for playback. Spectacular! Then I switched to Independence Day with DTS:X. Terrific!

I also have Zone 2 and 3 working in mono.

All's well that ends well

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Has anyone heard more about the update that will allow saving the config to a thumb drive? Obviously, it didn't happen by the end of Feb. as thought. (7011)

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Hi guys.

Does the SR6011 has enough power/current to drive B&W 683S2 speakers (sensitivity 89dB) ?

i have all set from B&W 68xS2 line, using in a 5.1 setup.

The SR7011 have a much higher price than SR6011, that i couldn´t find a great reason or extra funcionality to really worth it for my use. Only the power output, but i can use a 2ch power in pre-out of 6011 if it make any difference for better quality sound.

In audio comparison (6011 and 7011), will AV7702MKII with MM7055 do a much difference in terms of atmos/dts-x / dts-hd / true-hd, a channel separation, clarity of effects, etc;..?

Thanks.
I listened to the 683 S2's through a Marantz 5011 yesterday and it provides plenty of power so I suspect a slight improvement perhaps with a 6011

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SR7011 Behaviour

Hello,

We recently bought Marantz SR7011, and did not notice any major issues with it yet. However, while trying to check all the features, we noticed that the "RC Source Select" is not working as expected. Basically, it's behaving as if the feature does not exist. I have done a reset, and still a no go. It will always switch on the AVR, and change the source instead of being in standby (behaving like SR7010). Previously, we have checked with SR6011, and the feature works as expected.

I humbly ask that if any one of you who owns a SR7011, please help me verify that your device works as expected when this "RC Source Select" is enabled along with the relevant supporting settings (e.g. HDMI Control).

Any advice or help is appreciated as i could have missed something related to the "smart" remote, but i don't really see that being a factor for this feature (no?).

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Newbie question about separates

OK, so after getting my new Dolby Atmos setup up and running, I decided that I really need both sets of speakers working for Zone 2 and 3, so that leaves me 2 amps short.

I went and bought a Marantz MM-7025 2-chanell amp, and hooked it up today.

So now I'm back to two channels going to my Zone 2 speakers (through speaker terminals), and two channels going to my Zone 3 speakers (using zone 3 pre-outs). OK, everything works great, except one little issue. I've never owned separates before, and I want to find a way that when I turn on the 7011, my external amp turns on as well.

I read up on how the "DC out" and "DC in" controls work. However, when I connected the supplied cable from the DC Out 1 plug of the 6011 to the DC In plug of the 7025, not only does the power not come on at the same time, but my Zone 2 speakers went dead. I can tell you that the DC out cable is pretty loose on the 7011, and even moving the cable a slight amount causes clicking sounds to come out of the 7011.

Any advice or information on this would be appreciated.

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I have a similar setup, SR-7009 & MM7025. I don't have a wire from/to DC in/out. I just ran a single RCA cable from the Remote control out(sr7009) to remote control in(mm7025), when I turn on the 7009, slight delay and the mm7025 turns on. All works well this way.

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I have a similar setup, SR-7009 & MM7025. I don't have a wire from/to DC in/out. I just ran a single RCA cable from the Remote control out(sr7009) to remote control in(mm7025), when I turn on the 7009, slight delay and the mm7025 turns on. All works well this way.
Worked!

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I'm currently using a power amp for my front left and right speakers in a 7.1.4 setup. Am I able to bi amp these using the empty front terminals on the 6011 for when I listen to 2 channel music? How would I go about this and would it make an audible improvement in sound?
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I'm currently using a power amp for my front left and right speakers in a 7.1.4 setup. Am I able to bi amp these using the empty front terminals on the 6011 for when I listen to 2 channel music? How would I go about this and would it make an audible improvement in sound?
Not possible but no audible improvement anyway even if you could.
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Hi all,

Thinking it's almost time for a receiver upgrade. I'm working with a Marantz SR7005 now and thinking about going to an SR7011. A few questions:

[ANSWERED] 1.) I know this should be able to pass (as long as no upscaling) HDR10, which is great. Can anyone confirm it *definitely* passes Dolby Vision as well? I've seen speculation that *it should* but haven't been able to find confirmation that *it does*, and I definitely want to make certain before biting the bullet.
EDIT: Oop, looks like I just found the answer; guess there's no Dolby Vision until there's a firmware update and it's not coming for a while (by 2018) =/ Looks like I may be holding off. Still interested in the answer to 2 tho'...

2.) I'm running an LG 65E6P TV, which is great, aside from occasional HDCP issues when connected directly. Does this model have any known HDCP issues that could make things worse? Any chance it'll actually make things better?

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Hi all,

Thinking it's almost time for a receiver upgrade. I'm working with a Marantz SR7005 now and thinking about going to an SR7011. A few questions:

[ANSWERED] 1.) I know this should be able to pass (as long as no upscaling) HDR10, which is great. Can anyone confirm it *definitely* passes Dolby Vision as well? I've seen speculation that *it should* but haven't been able to find confirmation that *it does*, and I definitely want to make certain before biting the bullet.
EDIT: Oop, looks like I just found the answer; guess there's no Dolby Vision until there's a firmware update and it's not coming for a while (by 2018) =/ Looks like I may be holding off. Still interested in the answer to 2 tho'...

2.) I'm running an LG 65E6P TV, which is great, aside from occasional HDCP issues when connected directly. Does this model have any known HDCP issues that could make things worse? Any chance it'll actually make things better?

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1. It currently won't pass Dolby Vision until a firmware update is received (ETA early 2018).
2. All models can have potential HDCP issues. Perhaps some LG owners can reply.

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1. It currently won't pass Dolby Vision until a firmware update is received (ETA early 2018).
2. All models can have potential HDCP issues. Perhaps some LG owners can chime reply.
I have an LG OLED 65B6P; no problems whatsoever with connectivity to my Marantz.

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Has anyone tried to hook up a Dreamscreen through their AVR? I have the 7011 and am interested in buying the Dreamscreen, but I'm wondering if I can bypass the splitter they have or the one they recommend and use both HDMI outs. If so, what would I have to go in and change the settings to?
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Has anyone tried to hook up a Dreamscreen through their AVR? I have the 7011 and am interested in buying the Dreamscreen, but I'm wondering if I can bypass the splitter they have or the one they recommend and use both HDMI outs. If so, what would I have to go in and change the settings to?
It appears from their website you should be able to use both main zone HDMI monitor outputs (which default to both being ON); however, note this product would then limit all video to only 1080p so if you have a 4k TV, the better option is to just order the whole kit and connect the splitter to the Monitor 2 output for use only when you wanted to use it.
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Can this be done? I want to connect a Marantz 1506 to a 6011. I have the 1506 with 2 speakers connected for my backyard mainly used for Sirus, Spotify, and internet radio airplayed to the unit. I want to connected it to the 6011 so I can play it in the backyard and living room. If so then how? Yes I know it would probably be easier to connect the 6011's Zone 2

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Can this be done? I want to connect a Marantz 1506 to a 6011. I have the 1506 with 2 speakers connected for my backyard mainly used for Sirus, Spotify, and internet radio airplayed to the unit. I want to connected it to the 6011 so I can play it in the backyard and living room. If so then how? Yes I know it would probably be easier to connect the 6011's Zone 2
NR1506 (FL/FR pre-out) ---> SR6011 (stereo analog input or multi analog input (FL/FR))

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SR6011 (Zone 2 L/R) ---> NR1506 (stereo analog input)
SR6011 (Zone 2 HDMI Monitor Out) ---> NR1506 (HDMI input)
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