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The 2016 D+M models will receive a Dolby Vision firmware update by early 2018, otherwise, unable to pass Dolby Vision at this time.


JD that right from marantz and denon? I assume since you know so much re: them.

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JD that right from marantz and denon? I assume since you know so much re: them.

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Yup. Public release as well.
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The 2016 D+M models will receive a Dolby Vision firmware update by early 2018, otherwise, unable to pass Dolby Vision at this time.
So that would not include the 7010, correct?

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So that would not include the 7010, correct?
Correct.
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Correct.
Have they actually confirmed that the 2015 models won't get it? Last I saw was a confirmation that the 2016 models will get it, nothing either way for the previous models.

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Is there a press release or formal response regarding the firmware upgrade for existing models that can be linked?

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Have they actually confirmed that the 2015 models won't get it? Last I saw was a confirmation that the 2016 models will get it, nothing either way for the previous models.
Correct, but highly unlikely.
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I got a sick deal on the 7010 so I'm not too upset given that I had no other option. Otherwise, I would have gotten an Anthem. Wondering what they will do.

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Dolby Vision is a high dynamic range (HDR) video technology. It is currently available when streaming UHD content from Vudu, Netflix, and Amazon. This year, it's expected that Ultra HD blu-rays will become available that feature Dolby vision. This is the alternative to HDR10, which is the standard used on all Ultra HD Blu-rays and is also available on Amazon and Netflix. Vudu is currently the only streaming service that exclusively offers Dolby Vision has the HDR option, and it has announced that it will support HDR10 in the future.
imagic, thank you for your detailed and in-depth reply! That mostly clears things up for me. So is Dolby Vision considered a better option than HDR10? Would it be an upgrade for Ultra HD Blu's once it gets this feature?

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Did Denon do a press release saying the 2016 models will get an update? And can I see it?

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At the tale end of the AVS article it states that "...HEOS grants these AVRs [S730H/S930H] streaming powers and lets them act as nodes in a multi-room audio system." For "Whole House" audio purposes just how true is that?

If I have 2+ HEOS enabled AVRs can I effectively use HEOS to treat each receiver as a separate "zone" and stream the audio from one to the other...playing it all in sync?

What about TV audio (assuming its passed back to the AVR through optical or ARC) or the audio from a BluRay that I may be watching? If I'm watching "the game" in one room on a HEOS enabled AVR can I stream the audio for that game (or a BluRay) to other HEOS nodes so I can still hear it even if I can't see it?

If these lower models with HEOS will solve my "zone 2" needs then I'd be willing to sacrifice some of the higher features now and then demote this AVR to a secondary room when I can swing the $$$ for a more robust home theater setup.

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At the tale end of the AVS article it states that "...HEOS grants these AVRs [S730H/S930H] streaming powers and lets them act as nodes in a multi-room audio system." For "Whole House" audio purposes just how true is that?

If I have 2+ HEOS enabled AVRs can I effectively use HEOS to treat each receiver as a separate "zone" and stream the audio from one to the other...playing it all in sync?

What about TV audio (assuming its passed back to the AVR through optical or ARC) or the audio from a BluRay that I may be watching? If I'm watching "the game" in one room on a HEOS enabled AVR can I stream the audio for that game (or a BluRay) to other HEOS nodes so I can still hear it even if I can't see it?

If these lower models with HEOS will solve my "zone 2" needs then I'd be willing to sacrifice some of the higher features now and then demote this AVR to a secondary room when I can swing the $$$ for a more robust home theater setup.

Very true, just as is the case with last year's X4300H and X6300H which have the same HEOS module installed the AVR can stream PCM 2.0 audio from sources connected to it to HEOS speakers set up around the house. There is still currently a lag issue when the source is playing to the surround speakers as well which is expected to be resolved via a firmware update.

Regarding streaming audio from one HEOS AVR to another, technically it should work as long as each AVR has it's own unique name (ie. factory default is "HEOS Player").
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If these lower models with HEOS will solve my "zone 2" needs then I'd be willing to sacrifice some of the higher features now and then demote this AVR to a secondary room when I can swing the $$$ for a more robust home theater setup.
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Very true, just as is the case with last year's X4300H and X6300H which have the same HEOS module installed the AVR can stream PCM 2.0 audio from sources connected to it to HEOS speakers set up around the house. There is still currently a lag issue when the source is playing to the surround speakers as well which is expected to be resolved via a firmware update.

Regarding streaming audio from one HEOS AVR to another, technically it should work as long as each AVR has it's own unique name (ie. factory default is "HEOS Player").
Now I am excited to hear what is in store for the 2017 X line!
Any chance that the HEOS module will be included below the current X4300H tier?

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Now I am excited to hear what is in store for the 2017 X line!
Any chance that the HEOS module will be included below the current X4300H tier?
Based on the fact that the new "S" series models (except the S530BT) will include a HEOS module, it's safe to assume that ALL of the "X" series models will as well.
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The 2016 D+M models will receive a Dolby Vision firmware update by early 2018, otherwise, unable to pass Dolby Vision at this time.
2018??? Well, I guess I should be happy my Marantz AV7703 gets it at all. Oh well, I guess I'll have to be patient.
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Hoping that the flagship Denon and Marantz units get MQA hardware decoding support for those of use who appreciate high fidelity audio. Tidal now supports MQA for it's streaming service.

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Would my 4300S be dolby vision upgradeable ?
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Would my 4300S be dolby vision upgradeable ?
As noted in the 2016 Denon Owner's thread, yes, although it's X4300H.
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Yes, all it has to do is pass through the Vision data. But, without a firmware update, current AVRs won't do that, and there's no guarantee those updates are forthcoming. In contrast, this unit will support Dolby Vision right out of the box.
Apparently not, as noted by the following on the S930W face page ...

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Featuring 8 HDMI inputs, including 1 conveniently located on the front panel, the AVR-S930H incorporates an advanced video section that features all you need for the ultimate home theater experience: Full 4K Ultra HD, HDCP 2.2, HDR (High Dymanic Range), BT.2020, Wide Color Gamut and 4:4:4 Pure Color sub-sampling. It is even ready for Dolby Vision and HLG (Hybrid Log Gamma; via future firmware update), and owns an advanced video processor to upscale existing lower resolution video to true 4K.
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@jdsmoothie - Is it a while yet before the Official 2017 Denon thread gets started?

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@jdsmoothie - Is it a while yet before the Official 2017 Denon thread gets started?
Just until the lower "X" series models get announced.
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The S930H has dual HDMI outputs, does it support mirroring?
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The S930H has dual HDMI outputs, does it support mirroring?
Yes. You have to upgrade to the X3400H for Zone 2 HDMI monitor output.
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