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"OFFICIAL" 2017 Denon S530BT/S730H/S930H/X1400H/X2400H/X3400H/X4400H/X6400H Owner's

********* Note: This thread is still under construction with currently only up to the X2400H links being active. Until the updated specs have been released for a particular model (currently includes S530BT/S730H/S930H/X1400H/X2400H), the information provided has simply been copied from the 2016 model thread listing (ie. X3400H, X4400H, X6400H). *************


2017 Denon AVR models ---> S530BT/S730H/S930H/X1400H/X2400H/X3400H/X4400H/X6400H

The Denon + Marantz Group (ie. D+M Group) USA has started to release information on the new 2017 Denon models starting with the three new "S" series models. The lower "X" series should be announced in April with the higher "X" series announced later this summer and released in September. A new “flagship” model (X7400H) is expected to be announced around September and released in December and will have a separate thread.

What's new for the 2017 models?

S530BT
- HDMI Control/ARC/TV Audio Switching (added for the first time on this lowest model)
- Bluetooth Auto-Select (ON/OFF – prevents Bluetooth devices from powering on the AVR or selecting Bluetooth source when in range)
- Restart - (pressing/holding the power on button in lieu of having to pull power cable)
- 4K Signal Format (not a setting on this model rather it simply internally factory defaults to Enhanced (4K/60Hz,4:4:4, 10 bit video) and cannot be changed

S730H/S930H/X1400H/X2400H/X3400H/X4400H/X6400H
- AK4458VN 32 bit DAC (primary)
- PCM5100 32 bit DAC (Network)
- Bluetooth Version 3.0, Class 1 - up to 98ft/30m
- Audyssey iOS/Android phone app ($20) - using the Audyssey mic, provides the ability to customize target curves, save them on the phone/tablet and send back to the AVR
- The "H" series models include a HEOS module which will allow streaming the (currently) 12 music services using the HEOS iOS/Android app to the "H" model as well as allow streaming 2CH sources from the AVR to one or more HEOS wireless speakers placed around the home
- Auto Update - (default - OFF), allows for firmware updates while the unit is in Standby
- 4K Signal Format (Standard (default)/Enhanced; Note: Enhanced setting must be used when passing 4K/60Hz,4:4:4, 10 bit video)
- SAVE & LOAD (to USB; replaces Web Control SAVE/LOAD)
- Disable Zone 2 access from the remote control
- Restart - (pressing/holding the power on button in lieu of having to pull power cable)
- Network Reset (excludes resetting “Amp Assign”, “Speaker Config.” and “Video” settings)
- DTS:X & DTS Neural:X pre-loaded at factory
- HDMI Diagnostics (installer troubleshooting)
- TV Sound Grouping (fixes 1 second audio delay experienced when playing cable/sat box audio to the surround speakers and HEOS speakers in other rooms) - April 12, 2017 firmware update
- Dolby Vision HDR (installed at factory)
- Hybrid Log Gamma (HLG) - via future firmware update


What was dropped from the 2016 models?

S730H/S930H/X1400H/X2400H/X3400H
- Web Control
- vTuner - must use TuneIn (on board or using HEOS app) for internet radio which doesn't allow the user to manually add new stations as is the case with vTuner
- iPod/iPhone connectivity via USB
- Video Select (iPod/USB)

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- All "S" series models have a 2 year warranty if purchased new/open-box from an authorized dealer
- All "X" series models have a 3 year warranty (2 years in Canada) if purchased new/open-box from an authorized dealer
- All refurbished models have a 1 year warranty if purchased from an authorized refurb dealer


Denon model web page info and Owner manual links

- S530BT - MSRP $279, 5.2 CH, 70W, HDMI In/Out (5/1)
This is a 5CH AVR which features Bluetooth, but is not a networking model. Firmware updates would be installed via the USB jack. It includes a mic for a basic (ie. non-Audyssey) single position speaker/sub calibration. It can display the GUI over 2D/3D video on HDMI1 and HDMI2 and pass through 4k/60Hz video from HDMI3/HDMI4/HDMI5 but cannot display the GUI over 4k video. It uses the “Denon 500 Series Remote” Bluetooth remote app.

http://usa.denon.com/us/product/home...rsht/avrs530bt

http://manuals.denon.com/AVRS530BT/NA/EN/index.php

Press release on the S530BT and S730H and S930H - http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-th...0h-avr-s530bt/

- S730H - MSRP $479, 7.2 CH, 75W, HDMI In/Out (6.1) - avail April
Upgrading from the S530BT adds 1 more HDMI input and two more audio channels for a 7CH model and the lowest model to feature Audyssey MultEQ (6 mic positions), networking, DSD via USB/network source, Atmos/DTS:X 5.2.2, DTS:X and uses speaker posts, 32 bit DAC, and an on board Denon HEOS module (allows streaming of HEOS app music services to the AVR as well as streaming PCM 2.0 source from the AVR to HEOS wireless speakers set up around the home). Firmware updates are installed via a network connection or USB. It can display the GUI over 2D/3D video from all HDMI inputs, but not over 4k video. It features 5.1 + Zone 2 capability using the Surround Back speaker posts for Zone 2. A new SAVE/LOAD config file via USB feature has been added. There are no Zone 2 pre-outs. No noticeable difference in power; however, audio quality should be improved after running Audyssey. This is the lowest model that can use the new Audyssey MultEQ Editor iOS/Android app ($20) as well as the lowest model that will be receiving the Dolby Vision HDR firmware update.

http://usa.denon.com/us/product/home...ersht/avrs730H

http://manuals.denon.com/AVRS730H/NA/EN/index.php


- S930H - MSRP $579, 7.2CH, 90W, HDMI In/Out (8/2, main/main outputs) - avail April
Upgrading from the S730H adds 2 more HDMI inputs, 1 more main zone monitor output (eg. when using a TV and PJ), 2 component video inputs / 1 output, 4k/30Hz upscaling, on board. No noticeable difference in either power or audio quality.

http://usa.denon.com/us/product/home...ersht/avrs930H

http://manuals.denon.com/AVRS930H/NA/EN/index.php


- X1400H - MSRP $599, 7.2CH, 80W, HDMI In/Out (6/1) - avail May
This model is similar to the S730H in features but adds: improved audio quality using the higher Audyssey MultEQ XT (8 mic positions), Zone 2 pre-outs, Crestron/Control 4 interface, and also as the lowest "X" series model adds 1 more year of warranty (total 3 years).

http://usa.denon.com/us/product/home...rsht/avrX1400H

http://manuals.denon.com/AVRX1400H/NA/EN/index.php

Press release on the new X1400H and X2400H ---> http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/De...eceivers.shtml

- X2400H - MSRP $799, 7.2CH, 95W, HDMI In/Out (8/2, main/main outputs) - avail May
This model is similar to the S930H in features but adds: improved audio quality using the higher Audyssey MultEQ XT, Zone 2 pre-outs, RS-232, Crestron/Control 4 interface, ISF (Day/Night) calibration settings (to be set by an ISF calibrator) and 1 more year of warranty (total 3 years).

http://usa.denon.com/us/product/home...rsht/avrX2400H

http://manuals.denon.com/AVRX2400H/NA/EN/index.php

*** Only pricing/spec information above this line shows current 2017 information. Pricing and spec information listed below this line has simply been copied from the 2016 Denon AVR Owner's thread, but will be updated with the new 2017 spec information once it is released. *****

- X3400H - MSRP $999, 7.2CH, 105W, HDMI In/Out (8/2, main/Zone 2 outputs) - avail July
Upgrading from the X2400H adds: Zone 2 custom settings (bass, treble, HPF, stereo/mono), 12v trigger (1), DSD over HDMI, Zone 2 HDMI Monitor output, HDMI/digital PCM 2.0 audio to Zone 2 speaker posts/pre-outs, GUI over 4k video, 4k/60Hz upscaling, and the lowest model with 7.2 main zone pre-outs. No noticeable difference in power, but much better audio quality using the more advanced Audyssey MultEQ XT32 and Sub EQ HT (dual sub level/delay).

http://usa.denon.com/us/product/home...rsht/avrx3400H

http://manuals.denon.com/AVRX3400H/NA/EN/index.php

- X4400H - MSRP ($1499), 9.2CH, 125W, HDMI In/Out (8/2, main/Zone 2 outputs) avail Sep
Upgrading from the X3400H adds: 2 additional on board amps (with capability to expand to 11 using an external 2CH amp), a second main zone HDMI monitor output, 11.2 main zone pre-outs, Zone 3, a 2nd 12v trigger, front panel display of speaker inputs (or outputs), PHONO input, metal front panel with 2 line display, Custom 2 CH settings (using FL/FR or dedicated Front B)(LARGE/SMALL; crossover settings, sub – on/off, distance, level), one internal cooling fan, and Auro 3D capable (via firmware upgrade - $199USD).

https://usa.denon.com/us/product/hom...vers/avrx4400H

http://manuals.denon.com/AVRX4400H/NA/EN/index.php


- X6400H - MSRP ($2199), 11.2CH, 140W, HDMI In/Out (8/2, main/Zone 2 outputs) avail Sep
Upgrading from the X4400H adds: 2 additional on board amps, more robust amps, HD Radio, mfr'd in Japan, gold plated connectors, Dialog Enhancer, two internal cooling fans, and if the Auro 3D upgrade ($199USD) is installed, ability to use the Surround Back L speaker post for powered VOG/Top Surround as an alternative to the Sub pre-out 2 which must be used on the X4400H.

https://usa.denon.com/us/product/hom...vers/avrx6400h

http://manuals.denon.com/AVRX6400H/NA/EN/index.php



Welcome to the Official 2017 Denon AVR-S/X models thread (S530BT/S730H/S930H/X1400H/X2400H/X3400H/X4400H/X6400H).


If this is your first visit to this thread, and you want to ask a question about one of the 2017 Denon AVR models, either one that you own or one that you are thinking of buying, please provide the following information to allow for better responses to your questions:

(a) Identify the model number in question (eg. X2400H), as there are 8 different models (S and X series) discussed in this thread. Also if you have not posted in several days since your initial post, please post the model # again so we don't have to back track to learn which model you are referencing.

(b) Identify what you've done so far to troubleshoot the issue and what the front panel is displaying if an audio issue, (also take a few minutes to review the Troubleshooting section provided in post 3 as your question may already be answered there,

(c) Unless you indicate what settings have been changed, the assumption will be that all settings are on the factory defaults (ie. usually "Auto"),

(d) If the advice given seems to simplistic or obvious, don't shoot the advice giver as we have no idea of the level of your technical understanding,

(e) If there is no response to your post, it either means no one knows the answer or it has simply been overlooked so please repost if you still haven't resolved your issue,

(f) If you post a question in this thread and are given advice and either it or some other advice (eg. Denon phone support, Denon "Ask a Question" email support) resolves your issue, have the common courtesy to post back what solution resolved your issue so others can learn from it as well,

(g) If the issue is not user error or not just a misunderstanding on how the AVR works, please call Denon support so the issue is registered,

(h) When responding to another post that is providing assistance to you, please press the "Quote" button in the lower right corner of that other poster's response so that response is also listed with your new post to provide some context, and,

(i) If you don't live in either the USA or Canada, please either indicate your country location in your profile or your post as some Denon models from other regions in the world differ in configuration from their USA/Canada counterparts otherwise responses made will be regarding the USA/Canada models.

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How do I reset the microprocessor or do a network reset on my 2017 Denon S/X series AVR?

When the AVR is acting up or doing something strange, try the following steps before resorting to a microprocessor reset:

1. "Restart" - set the AVR to Standby and press/hold the power ON button until "Restart" is displayed on the front panel.

If no joy, then ...
2. Soft reset - set the AVR to Standby and unplug the power cord for about 10 minutes, then plug back in the power cord and turn ON.

If neither of the above resolves the issue, then you'll need to either do a network reset (if network related) or a microprocessor reset. You'll also want to reset the microprocessor before doing anything else if you purchased the AVR as an "open box" or demo/used/refurb unit to ensure all settings are returned to their original factory defaults. Prior to doing a reset, you can SAVE the config file to a USB thumb drive so they can be restored after doing the reset.


Microprocessor Reset (aka "Reset to original factory settings")

S530BT - p. 112

1 - Turn off the power using ON/STANDBY.
2 - Press ON/STANDBY while simultaneously pressing the "SOUND MODE >" and "TUNER PRESET CH +"
3 - Remove your fingers when "Initialized" appears on the front panel display.

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S730H - p. 218
S930H - p. 227
X1400H - p. 225
X2400H - p. 231
X3400H - p.
X4400H - p.
X6400H - p.


1 - Turn off the power using ON/STANDBY on the front panel.
2 - Press ON/STANDBY while simultaneously pressing: S730H/S930H/X1400H/X2400H/X3400H - "TUNER PRESET CH +" and "TUNER PRESET CH -" and X4400H/X6400H - "INFO" and "BACK"
3 - Remove your fingers when "Initialized" appears on the front panel display.

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** NOTES:
(1) Prior to resetting the microprocessor, for all but the S530BT you can SAVE the config/settings (to include Audyssey settings) to a USB thumb drive using the Setup - General - SAVE & LOAD setting.


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Network Reset (“Amp Assign”, “Speaker Config.” and “Video” settings are not reset)

S730H - p. 219
S930H - p. 228
X1400H - p. 226
X2400H - p. 232
X3400H - p.
X4400H - p.
X6400H - p.


1 - Turn ON the power using ON/STANDBY.
2 - Select the HEOS Music source
3 - Simultaneously press/hold the: S730H/S930H - "Zone 2 ON/OFF" and "Zone 2 Source"; X1400H/X2400H/X3400H - "Tuner Preset CH +" and "Zone 2 ON/OFF" ; X4400H/X6400H - " arrow buttons on the front panel. Release your fingers when "Network Reset" is displayed on the front panel. "Complete" will display when the reset has completed.

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Firmware Update Information for the 2017 Denon S/X Series models

(1) Firmware updates for all 2017 models should be available via Denon's website and can be downloaded and installed via USB thumb drive. You will need to enter the serial number of the AVR at the website page to obtain the update. Note this is the only method to update the S530BT as it is not a networking model. I provide a detailed description of how to do a USB update in post 6301 of this thread linked here.

(2) Firmware updates for the network models (ie. S730H and higher) can also be installed by the owner via an internet connection to the Denon servers. Although it's not necessary to update your unit if you are not experiencing any problems, it's generally a good idea to keep it updated so that if there are any problems with the update the unit will still be covered under warranty. The update process generally doesn't take more than 30 minutes once the download begins and also generally does not erase any settings, although it's always a good idea to SAVE the config.avr file using the Setup - General - SAVE & LOAD - SAVE feature prior to doing the update just in case. Note that if the update process is stuck on "Authenticating", ensure a source other than NET/USB is selected and just let it continue for up to a few hours and it should eventually begin the update process (although note that Denon's servers have been known to crash the first day of release due to the overload, so you may want to wait a few days before trying again). Some have noted that rather than selecting the "Check for Update", instead simply selecting the "Start Update" will avoid the "Authenticating" issue. One prior model year owner found that disconnecting ALL sources to the AVR enabled the unit to connect to the Denon servers and update the firmware when the update process had previously been unsuccessful.

Other tips if having problems with the update include setting "Network Control" to OFF in Standby, cycling the DHCP setting on the AVR, or using a static IP address.

During the update, the AVR will go into Standby mode, but will continue to update status on the front panel display. If the update seems to be hung up (ie. goes beyond 1 hour) ... power the AVR to Standby, unplug it for a few minutes and power back on and attempt the update again. If the update fails to load, check the network environment (ie. reset the router, replace the router with a more current/robust model, or ideally wire directly to the router if connecting wirelessly) If still not having any luck with the update, perform a Network Reset as described in post 5 above. You may also want to consider purchasing a long (100'+) Cat5/6 cable for network updates only for a higher probability of a successful install.

Networking model owners will be notified automatically when there is a firmware update when the AVR is turned ON as long as the Notification Update setting is set to ON (factory default). For more information refer to Setup - General - Firmware - Notifications -Update in your respective Owner's manual. To manually check for an update, refer to Setup - General - Firmware - Update - Check for Update.

(3) What is my unit's current firmware version? The current firmware version on the S730H and higher models can be determined from the AVR's menu: Setup --> General --> Information --> Firmware Version.

(4) There are two firmware notification settings, both of which default to "ON" from the factory..... "Update" (fixes) and "Upgrade" (new feature). When either an "update" or "upgrade" is available the networking models will display a message alerting you to this "update" or "upgrade" every time you turn on the AVR. If you prefer not to install the update/upgrade, then simply change the appropriate setting at General --> Firmware --> Notifications ---> Update/Upgrade to OFF (factory default is ON) and it will go away.


This area will be used to track the change log of the firmware updates for 2017 S/X series models

X6400H


X4400H


X3400H


X2400H


X1400H
1. (out of the box)
- The HEOS products cannot be grouped when the customer performs group setting.

S930H
1. (out of the box)
- See X1400H for this date.


S730H
1. (out of the box)
- See X1400H for this date.

S530BT


** NOTES:
(1) The change log information above is provided as is, without any further explanation and only when I am able to obtain it. If the information listed above doesn't make sense, please don't ask for clarification, as I have none.

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3D Immersive Audio formats:


Dolby Atmos + Dolby Surround upmixer (aka DSU; simulates audio to height/ceiling speakers from non-Atmos BD/DVDs)

The X3400H/X2400H/X1400H/S930H/S730H are all capable of Atmos 5.2.2 (ie. 2 height speaker maximum). You will have the choice of selecting the specific speaker pair to be used as the Atmos Height speakers (except Top Rear or Rear Height). If able to install in-ceiling or on-ceiling mounted speakers, the best location will be "Top Middle" either directly above your seated position or slightly forward of the seated position. Note that although the X3400H has main zone pre-outs, it is not possible to expand the X3400H beyond operating 7 speakers (ie. 5.1.2 maximum).




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(1) Speaker abbreviations used in this thread: Subwoofer (SW), Front L/R (FL/FR), Center (C), Surround L/R (SL/SR); Surround Back L/R (SBL/SBR); Front Height L/R (FHL/FHR); Top Front L/R (TFL/TFR); Top Middle L/R (TML/TMR); Top Rear L/R (TRL/TRR); Rear Height L/R (RHL/RHR), Front Dolby L/R (FDL/FDR); Surround Dolby L/R (SDL/SDR); Rear Dolby L/R (RDL/RDR).

Note the Top Rear, Rear Height, and Rear Dolby locations are only available on the X4400H and X6400H as these are both capable of 4 Height speakers whereas the lower models are only capable of 2 Height speakers.

(2) If you only have a 2.0/2.1/3.0/3.1 setup, you can still add 2 height (FH, TF, TM, or DF) speakers for a 2.X.2 or 3.X.2 setup. However, when adding 2 Surround Back speakers you must first have a 5.1 setup, although you can simply move the "side surround" speakers behind you but still connect them to the "Surround" speaker posts.

(3) If you already have in-ceiling "side" surrounds for a 5.1 setup, you can do a 3.1.2 setup configuring the ceiling surrounds as Top Middle or with a 5.1.2 setup, if you can add (a) Front Heights (front wall mounted), (b) Top Fronts (in-ceiling or ceiling mounted a few feet forward and above the FL/FR speakers), or (c) Front Dolby (upward firing speakers placed on top of (or near) the FL/FR speakers. Yet another option would be to add some floor side surrounds and configure the current ceiling speakers as Top Middle.

(4) For more detailed questions and additional information on Dolby Atmos, please refer to the Official Dolby Atmos thread.


Auro 3D/2D + Auro-Matic (simulates audio to height speakers from non-Auro BD/DVD) Upgrade instructions (USA models only)

Only the X4400H and X6400H can be upgraded to Auro 3D/2D (firmware upgrade available likely early 2018):

1. Connect the unit to the internet.
2. Ensure the unit has the latest firmware update installed.
3. Using the GUI, select Upgrade now or go to GENERAL -- FIRMWARE -- ADD NEW FEATURE and write down the "Upgrade ID" listed on the display
4. Go to the Upgrade website at http://upgrade.denon.com/na/denon/pages/home.aspx
5. Complete the Auro 3D upgrade Personal form to include personal information, the unit's serial number (listed on back of unit or on original box), and the Upgrade ID obtained in step 3.
6. Enter credit card information - cost is $199 USD which will also include the Auro 3D Demo disk.
7. Once the card has been processed, the Auro 3D upgrade will be available to download to the unit (estimated download time - will vary depending on internet connection)

Notes:
(1) For those X4400H and X6400H owners not wanting to upgrade to Auro 3D at this time, you will be given the option to set Upgrade Notification to OFF on initial setup or you can go to SETUP -- GENERAL -- FIRMWARE -- NOTIFICATIONS -- UPGRADE and select OFF so you don't get the Upgrade notification each time the unit is powered ON.

(2) A number of prior year model owners with the Auro 3D upgrade have noted they prefer AuroMatic for music over either the Dolby Surround upmixer or DTS Neural:X.

(3) Additional information on Auro 3D/2D can be found in the Official Auro 3D thread.


DTS:X and DTS Neural:X

The DTS:X and DTS Neural:X firmware comes pre-loaded on the 2017 models (all but S530BT)

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Just a quick question. I was planning on getting a 6300, but this peaked my interest. I wanted to do a 7.1.4. I know the 6300 could do 11 channels without the need for a amp for 2 of my atmos speakers. Is the 6400H the same, as I won't need a separate amp to power all 11 channels.
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Just a quick question. I was planning on getting a 6300, but this peaked my interest. I wanted to do a 7.1.4. I know the 6300 could do 11 channels without the need for a amp for 2 of my atmos speakers. Is the 6400H the same, as I won't need a separate amp to power all 11 channels.
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1) It's "piqued" not "peaked"

2) Yes, the 6400 will have 11 amps like the 6300

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Question HEOS and S930H instead of Sonos?

I'm in need of a new receiver and I'm thinking the S930H might be the ticket. Hoping I might get some guidance from those of you in this thread.

I currently have a Sonos Play:1 in my kitchen, and a Sonos Connect on my current receiver which feeds the living room. Thinking I could replace the Sonos stuff with an S930h for the living room, and a standalone HEOS unit for my kitchen.

As Sonos doesn't allow for airplay directly (without an airport or something), I'd love to have something that I can actually airplay ANYTHING from my mac/iphone to in a grouped or ungrouped fashion. With the S930H, can I airplay from my Mac to it and group a standalone HEOS speaker with it if I want? The reason I want airplay is so I can listen to anything on my mac, most of which consists of past episodes of BBC Radio programs (iplayer on web). I'm also a Spotify Premium user.
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I'm in need of a new receiver and I'm thinking the S930H might be the ticket. Hoping I might get some guidance from those of you in this thread.

I currently have a Sonos Play:1 in my kitchen, and a Sonos Connect on my current receiver which feeds the living room. Thinking I could replace the Sonos stuff with an S930h for the living room, and a standalone HEOS unit for my kitchen.

As Sonos doesn't allow for airplay directly (without an airport or something), I'd love to have something that I can actually airplay ANYTHING from my mac/iphone to in a grouped or ungrouped fashion. With the S930H, can I airplay from my Mac to it and group a standalone HEOS speaker with it if I want? The reason I want airplay is so I can listen to anything on my mac, most of which consists of past episodes of BBC Radio programs (iplayer on web). I'm also a Spotify Premium user.
Although you can group the stand alone HEOS speaker with the S930H (aka HEOS Player) to stream the music services in the HEOS app, you cannot group the speaker when playing Airplay. Not sure about Spotify as I am not a Spotify member.
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The 6300 has only been available in Australia since January and the 6400 is announced less than three months later!!!!
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Although you can group the stand alone HEOS speaker with the S930H (aka HEOS Player) to stream the music services in the HEOS app, you cannot group the speaker when playing Airplay. Not sure about Spotify as I am not a Spotify member.
Thanks JD. Sounds like that doesn't help me too much then. Guess I'll just plug an old Airport Express into the Sonos Connect.
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The 6300 has only been available in Australia since January and the 6400 is announced less than three months later!!!!
The X6400H likely won't be announced until later this summer with a release in the USA at the usual time of September.
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will the Heos AVR be included in this thread?
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Any hints of a return of front wides yet?

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We won't know until the specs on the higher models are released.
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I think last I read these are planned for release this month? Can't remember what site I saw it on but wasn't sure if that matched up historically. I have Denon now from 2011 that came in a HTIB from Best Buy (Boston Acoustic speakers) and now I'm looking at upgrading to 4K so I need a new receiver. I liked my Denon so I plan on sticking with them and looking at the 730H. Was going to grab the 2016 model but took too long to decide and missed the sale. Figured at this point I will just get the newest model then.
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I hope the x6400H has gotten the hiss issue resolved!
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I hope the x6400H has gotten the hiss issue resolved!
To clarify only an issue on some X6300H units and then only with highly sensitive speakers, but yes, it has been resolved so won't be an issue with the X6400H.
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Just a quick question. I was planning on getting a 6300, but this peaked my interest. I wanted to do a 7.1.4. I know the 6300 could do 11 channels without the need for a amp for 2 of my atmos speakers. Is the 6400H the same, as I won't need a separate amp to power all 11 channels.
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1) It's "piqued" not "peaked"

2) Yes, the 6400 will have 11 amps like the 6300
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After peeking at your teasing answer to this question, the piquing of my interest in the new flagship has just peaked.

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I am glad this thread was created.


Okay, so I've had the Denon 3805 for almost 8 years and it worked FLAWLESSLY.
But because it became old technology with HD lossless audio, I upgraded to the 4311CI which I have now and it works FLAWLESSLY and I love it.
I am running a 9.2 surround with Klipsch speakers. Separates for all of the speakers except the Height is the only one being fed power from the Denon.


I like to keep my amps for almost a decade if I can, but because of rapid technology changing, it's almost impossible
This year I upgraded to a 4K projector and also want to go Dolby Atmos. Which I can't with my current 4311, which I bought right when it came out. At that time 4K was just talked about and seemed sooooo far away and who knew it would be a staple today. One can't even find a 1080P TV anymore, Everything is now 4K and by end of 2017 manufactures will cease making anything less than 4K.


So... My question is would it be worth it to wait for the 2017 6400 or just get the 6300 now.
I don't want to get the 6300 and start enjoying 4K and Dolby if the 6400 is going to have something that will make me regret waiting. Since I want to future proof as much as possible. Not into getting receivers every 4 years. The only thing I can think of is Dolby Vision pass-through coming out. Even though DV is still in it's infancy.. But then again so was 4K/Dolby Atmos back in 2013




Any advice/opinions would greatly be appreciated!

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So... My question is would it be worth it to wait for the 2017 6400 or just get the 6300 now.
I don't want to get the 6300 and start enjoying 4K and Dolby if the 6400 is going to have something that will make me regret waiting. Since I want to future proof as much as possible. Not into getting receivers every 4 years. The only thing I can think of is Dolby Vision pass-through coming out. Even though DV is still in it's infancy.. But then again so was 4K/Dolby Atmos back in 2013
The next thing coming down the track is HDMI 2.1, which will have support for Dynamic HDR10 aka HDR10+, and support for proper lossless audio formats via eARC ("Enhanced Audio Return Channel "), the successor to ARC which was crippled down to lossy 5.1. It's unlikely to be on the 2017 models, so you may want to wait for the 2018 models to get HDMI 2.1 support.

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Okay, so I've had the Denon 3805 for almost 8 years and it worked FLAWLESSLY.
But because it became old technology with HD lossless audio, I upgraded to the 4311CI which I have now and it works FLAWLESSLY and I love it.
I am running a 9.2 surround with Klipsch speakers. Separates for all of the speakers except the Height is the only one being fed power from the Denon.


I like to keep my amps for almost a decade if I can, but because of rapid technology changing, it's almost impossible
This year I upgraded to a 4K projector and also want to go Dolby Atmos. Which I can't with my current 4311, which I bought right when it came out. At that time 4K was just talked about and seemed sooooo far away and who knew it would be a staple today. One can't even find a 1080P TV anymore, Everything is now 4K and by end of 2017 manufactures will cease making anything less than 4K.


So... My question is would it be worth it to wait for the 2017 6400 or just get the 6300 now.
I don't want to get the 6300 and start enjoying 4K and Dolby if the 6400 is going to have something that will make me regret waiting. Since I want to future proof as much as possible. Not into getting receivers every 4 years. The only thing I can think of is Dolby Vision pass-through coming out. Even though DV is still in it's infancy.. But then again so was 4K/Dolby Atmos back in 2013




Any advice/opinions would greatly be appreciated!
The new specs on the X6400H won't likely be released until August but will not have HDMI 2.1 as the new spec hasn't even been released to mfr's yet. The biggest change for the 2017 models is the inclusion of the HEOS module, a feature already found on the X4300H and X6300H. At the very least, the known additional new features are those noted to be on the new 2017 lower models listed in post 1 of this thread.
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Is there any chance of 2017 models lower than the x4400 having 9 ch amps (or maybe 9 ch processing)? or have those specs from post 1 been confirmed. I know the x4300 got a bump up over the x4200 last time.
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Hey jd, was wondering if I could get a quote on an X4300H, not enough posts to PM you yet. Finally picked up an OLED and looking to go to a 5.1.4 atmos setup shortly, and my old Pioneer isn't gonna cut it. Still debating on waiting for the 4400 or getting the current model, but being stuck at 1080p with my current receiver is making it hard to wait. Thanks!
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Are the new denons releasing this week heard on slickdeals someone say it is. I'm hoping for a price drop on s720 since the new series will be dropping soon.
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