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Expert Troubleshooters Unite! Help is Needed

I've owned the RX-V1, RX-Z1, Z9...and then as luck would have it...after a major fiasco owning the Harman Kardon 1700 which died a well deserving death HK...they sent me a 1710 replacement that lasted 4 years until it too died.

Using my charm and charisma I convinced a HK rep to send me a 4 year out of warranty courtesy replacement...

Since I didn't want to wait I checked out A4L and grabbed a Yamaha TSR-7810 that I thought would be an amazing replacement. So I hooked it up and A/B'd them once Harman actually made good on a replacement.

What if I told you...that the 1710.
Sounds....
Better?

It does. Why does a 11 lb receiver sound better than a unit that weighs almost 3 times as much ? I don't get it. Even with the EQ, DSP modes and obvious perceived higher power output the Harman seriously sounds better.

How and why?

I think either I'm on crack or the 7810 is defective?



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The HK 1710 uses an amplifier output amplifier topology designed in the USA by Richie Miller. Basic toplogy was used in the majority of low-mid range HK AVRs from 2002 through 2014. Also Miller designed many HK amplifiers home & car over the years including the highly touted Citation series. In later HK AVRs after 2010 they went to a switching digital PCM supply but the amplifier was still a Class A-B. I have had multiple HK AVRs over the years and still faithfully use an AVR7550HD in 1 of my systems. I have another system using Marantz separate components and the 7550HD compares very well for sonic performance...

Just my $0.02...
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The HK 1710 uses an amplifier output amplifier topology designed in the USA by Richie Miller. Basic toplogy was used in the majority of low-mid range HK AVRs from 2002 through 2014. Also Miller designed many HK amplifiers home & car over the years including the highly touted Citation series. In later HK AVRs after 2010 they went to a switching digital PCM supply but the amplifier was still a Class A-B. I have had multiple HK AVRs over the years and still faithfully use an AVR7550HD in 1 of my systems. I have another system using Marantz separate components and the 7550HD compares very well for sonic performance...

Just my $0.02...
I appreciate the response. I have noticed the tone control on the HK goes up to 10db vs 6 for the Yammy. I doubt that made the difference when the Yamaha just doesn't sound awe inspiring. Even in 2 and 7 channel stereo modes the Harman just sounds exceptional. I'd rather use the Yamaha because I remember those sweet DSP modes being vastly superior than the 7810.

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