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*Official* Marantz 2017 NR1508/1608, SR5012/6012/7012 owner's thread

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Welcome to the Marantz 2017 receivers thread!

Well it's that time of the year again when Marantz starts to unveil their line up for 2017.

Starting in May and continuing into the fall, new receivers for their slim line series as well as the full height receivers will be announced and become available to purchase.

This is a master thread for the new 2017 Marantz receivers models. Similar to the 2015/2016 Marantz thread owner's (or potential owners) can post their questions in a single master thread.

imagic has made a news post about the 2017 slimline model here: http://www.avsforum.com/marantz-nr16...rs-introduced/

So what are we expecting for 2017?
  • New 5 and 7-channel slim line receiver with model number NR1508 and NR1608. The NR1608 can do Dobly Atmos 5.1.2 speaker configuration. The 5-channel slimline receiver (NR1508) does not do object audio.
  • Three new full height receivers with model numbers SR5012, SR6012 and SR7012.
  • A new 2017 pre/pro called AV7704.

As more details of each model are released, the 1st page of this thread will be up-dated accordingly.

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(a) Identify the model number in question (eg. SR5012), as there are 6 different models (NR, SR and AV series) that maybe discussed in this thread. Also if you have not posted in several days since your initial post, please post the model # again so we don't have to back track to learn which model you are referencing.

(b) Identify what you've done so far to troubleshoot the issue and what the front panel is displaying if an audio issue, (also take a few minutes to review the Troubleshooting section provided in post number 3 of the 2017 Denon thread as the Marantz models are similar in nature and your question may already be answered there),

(c) Unless you indicate what settings have been changed, the assumption will be that all settings are on the factory defaults (ie. usually "Auto"),

(d) If the advice given seems to simplistic or obvious, don't shoot the advice giver as we have no idea of the level of your technical understanding,

(e) If there is no response to your post, it either means no one knows the answer or it has simply been overlooked so please repost if you still haven't resolved your issue,

(f) If you post a question in this thread and are given advice and either it or some other advice (eg. Marantz phone support, Marantz "Ask a Question" email support) resolves your issue, have the common courtesy to post back what solution resolved your issue so others can learn from it as well,

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Since Marantz and Denon are owned by the same parent holding company, a lot of the features available in the 2017 Denon models are replicated to Marantz models.

jdsmoothie and batpig has started the 2017 Denon thread. Many questions related to features, settings, set-up of the Martanz receivers and pre/pro can be found in the 1st page of the 2017 Denon thread here: "OFFICIAL" 2017 Denon "S-Series" / "X-Series" AVR Owner's Thread + FAQ (Posts 1-8)

I'll just refer everyone to the good work that jdsmoothie and batpig have already done.

If you're looking to purchase a Marantz receiver (or any Denon/Marantz gear), AVS is an authorized dealer. Call jdsmoothie on 585-645-1006 for competitive quote.

Firmware up-dates:

For first time user of Audyssey, AVS member Keith Barnes has written an FAQ and a step by step guide here: "Official" Audyssey thread (FAQ in post #51779)

An in depth technical addendum to explain the differences between Audyssey XT32 and the lower versions is given here: "Official" Audyssey thread (FAQ in post #51779)

The SAVE/LOAD feature for the Marantz receivers is the same as that on the Denon models. jdsmoothie has given the step by step guide to carrying out a configuration SAVE onto the PC and verification of non-zero file using a hex editor in post number 4 of the 2015 Denon thread using IE. Chrome/Firefox browser SAVE/LOAD is given in post number 2,775 in the 2013 Denon thread.

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The Audyssey app thread started by imagic is here: MultEQ Editor: New App for Denon & Marantz AV Receivers & Pre/Pros

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Firmware Update Information for the 2017 Marantz NR/SR models


(1) Firmware updates for all 2017 models should be available via Marantz's website and can be downloaded and installed via USB thumb drive. You will need to enter the serial number of the AVR at the website page to obtain the update.

(2) Firmware updates can also be installed by the owner via an internet connection to the Marantz servers. Although it's not necessary to update your unit if you are not experiencing any problems, it's generally a good idea to keep it updated so that if there are any problems with the update the unit will still be covered under warranty. The update process generally doesn't take more than 30 minutes once the download begins and also generally does not erase any settings, although it's always a good idea to SAVE the settings using the new SAVE & LOAD via USB feature prior to doing the update just in case. Note that if the update process is stuck on "Authenticating", ensure a source other than NET/USB is selected and just let it continue for up to a few hours and it should eventually begin the update process (although note that Marantz's servers have been known to crash the first day of release due to the overload, so you may want to wait a few days before trying again). Some have noted that rather than selecting the "Check for Update", instead simply selecting the "Start Update" will avoid the "Authenticating" issue. One prior model year owner found that disconnecting ALL sources to the AVR enabled the unit to connect to the Marantz servers and update the firmware when the update process had previously been unsuccessful.

Other tips if having problems with the update include setting "Network Standby/IP Control/Network" to OFF, cycling the DHCP setting on the AVR, or using a static IP address.

During the update, the AVR will go into Standby mode, but will continue to update status on the front panel display. If the update seems to be hung up (ie. goes beyond 1 hour) ... power the AVR to Standby, unplug it for a few minutes and power back on and attempt the update again. If the update fails to load, check the network environment (ie. reset the router, replace the router with a more current/robust model, or ideally wire directly to the router if connecting wirelessly) If still not having any luck with the update, perform a Network Reset. You may also want to consider purchasing a long (100'+) Cat5/6 cable for network updates only for a higher probability of a successful install. Also note, that once the update has completed, there is no way of returning to an earlier version of firmware.

Networking model owners will be notified automatically when there is a firmware update when the AVR is turned ON as long as the Notification Update setting is set to ON (factory default). For more information refer to Setup - General - Firmware - Notifications -Update in your respective Owner's manual. To manually check for an update, refer to Setup - General - Firmware - Update - Check for Update.

(3) What is my unit's current firmware version? The current firmware version can be determined from the AVR's menu: Setup --> General --> Information --> Firmware Version.

(4) There are two firmware notification settings, both of which default to "ON" from the factory..... "Update" (fixes) and "Upgrade" (new feature). When either an "update" or "upgrade" is available the networking models will display a message alerting you to this "update" or "upgrade" every time you turn on the AVR. If you prefer not to install the update/upgrade, then simply change the appropriate setting at General --> Firmware --> Notifications ---> Update/Upgrade to OFF (factory default is ON) and it will go away.


This area will be used to track the change log of the firmware updates for 2017 NR/SR series models


SR7012



SR6012


SR5012


NR1608


NR1508



** NOTE: The change log information above is provided as is, without any further explanation and only when I am able to obtain it. If the information listed above doesn't make sense, please don't ask for clarification, as I have none.



Auro 3D/2D + Auro-Matic (simulates audio to height speakers from non-Auro BD/DVD) Upgrade instructions (USA models only)

Only the SR7012 and can be upgraded to Auro 3D/2D by following the instructions listed below:

1. Connect the unit to the internet.
2. Ensure the unit has the latest firmware update installed.
3. Using the GUI, select Upgrade now or go to GENERAL -- FIRMWARE -- ADD NEW FEATURE and write down the "Upgrade ID" listed on the display
4. Go to the Upgrade website at https://www.upgrade.marantz.com/na/m...ages/home.aspx
5. Complete the Auro 3D upgrade Personal form to include personal information, the unit's serial number (listed on back of unit or on original box), and the Upgrade ID obtained in step 3.
6. Enter credit card information - cost is $199 USD which will also include the Auro 3D Demo disk.
7. Once the card has been processed, the Auro 3D upgrade will be available to download to the unit (estimated download time - will vary depending on internet connection)


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(1) For those SR7012 owners not wanting to upgrade to Auro 3D at this time, you will be given the option to set Upgrade Notification to OFF on initial setup or you can go to SETUP -- GENERAL -- FIRMWARE -- NOTIFICATIONS -- UPGRADE and select OFF so you don't get the Upgrade notification each time the unit is powered ON. Note the "Upgrade" notification only applies to new features, while the "Update" notification applies to "fixes" which you want to leave set to ON.

(2) Additional information on Auro 3D/2D can be found in the Official Auro 3D thread.

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Let's see if the front wides will see a comback this year or if we will remain stuck with 7.1.4 once again.

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Hey JD, what would your advise be on buying the 7011 now or waiting for the 7012? How much change will come in the 7012 as far as features and will the price jump.
Doing a full HT upgrade this year so trying to plan it out.

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New Marantz and Denon receivers have just been announced in Europe. Beyond the addition of AURO 3D out of the box and a DAC update there doesn't appear to me to be much change.
There is a hint of a higher model coming later in the year
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Hey JD, what would your advise be on buying the 7011 now or waiting for the 7012? How much change will come in the 7012 as far as features and will the price jump.
Doing a full HT upgrade this year so trying to plan it out.
Unknown as the SR7012 spec info won't likely be released from Marantz USA until August.
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https://www.avforums.com/news/marant...built-in.13648

Long way out for some of the top models - but details are out.
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https://www.avforums.com/news/marant...built-in.13648

Long way out for some of the top models - but details are out.
Are all those features not currently on the 11 series? HEOS, Atmos,etc? Other than HLG and included Auro the upgrades seem minor.

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https://www.avforums.com/news/marant...built-in.13648

Long way out for some of the top models - but details are out.
Thank you for the link. A shame that M&D will remain at 7.1.4 for yet another product cycle.

Let's keep the fingers crossed for 2018.

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What's the general difference between the same level Denon vs Marantz, looking at x4400 / 6012 level?
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What's the general difference between the same level Denon vs Marantz, looking at x4400 / 6012 level?
First off, the X4400H is the sister model to the SR7012 while the X3400H is the sister model to the SR6012. The Marantz models feature better quality pre-amps (which provide for better 2CH music listening) and also feature multi analog inputs (eg. SACD player). The SR7012 also features HD Radio. Beyond that, the features will be fairly similar between the sister models.
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Any way to get rid of the on-screen mute image?

I just received my NR1608 and really like the smaller size (for my smallish room setup). Setup was super easy as was the Audyssey audio correction.

The only annoyance I've noticed so far is there's no way to disable the persistent "volume muted" on-screen image when muted. The mute image even appears if I switch off the volume on-screen display (which I don't want to do because I like GUI volume feedback and it disappears after a short time). I wish I could have the mute icon also disappear after a timeout or an option to not have it at all, because I have headphones simultaneously connected to the source and sometime use them when I do want to bother anyone else in the house or if they're watching a different show on a TV nearby.

The other options I can think of are to completely disable the on-screen GUI overlay (losing a bit of other desirable features) or to reduce the volume substantially (which I can't easily do & undo via my smart remote). Any other suggestions? I searched the other NR1607 thread but didn't see any discussions on the persistent mute on-screen image.

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I just received my NR1608 and really like the smaller size (for my smallish room setup). Setup was super easy as was the Audyssey audio correction.

The only annoyance I've noticed so far is there's no way to disable the persistent "volume muted" on-screen image when muted. The mute image even appears if I switch off the volume on-screen display (which I don't want to do because I like GUI volume feedback and it disappears after a short time). I wish I could have the mute icon also disappear after a timeout or an option to not have it at all, because I have headphones simultaneously connected to the source and sometime use them when I do want to bother anyone else in the house or if they're watching a different show on a TV nearby.

The other options I can think of are to completely disable the on-screen GUI overlay (losing a bit of other desirable features) or to reduce the volume substantially (which I can't easily do & undo via my smart remote). Any other suggestions? I searched the other NR1607 thread but didn't see any discussions on the persistent mute on-screen image.
Correct. Unfortunately.
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I found this video that showes the SR8012 11ch amplification receiver around minute 6:30 from TechNite 58.
https://youtu.be/8ObLt_phOYY
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I found this video that showes the SR8012 11ch amplification receiver around minute 6:30 from TechNite 58.
https://youtu.be/8ObLt_phOYY
Nice catch. Curious to see what the big changes will be in this years models.

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I've had a look at the forum for differences between the NR1608 and last years NR1607. I can pretty much only find HEOS as the main selling point difference. The US tech specs page for 1608 suggests analogue upscaling from 480i/570i to 4k/60/50 compared to the 1607 tech specs suggesting upscaling to 4k/30/25/25.

Neither are a huge deal breaker for me really. As the owner of an NR1601 which has served me well and is still absolutely fine, and am only upgrading for HDMI 2.0 capability for PS4 Pro and 4kHDR set compatibility, I'm thinking the 1607 is fine enough.
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I've had a look at the forum for differences between the NR1608 and last years NR1607. I can pretty much only find HEOS as the main selling point difference. The US tech specs page for 1608 suggests analogue upscaling from 480i/570i to 4k/60/50 compared to the 1607 tech specs suggesting upscaling to 4k/30/25/25.

Neither are a huge deal breaker for me really. As the owner of an NR1601 which has served me well and is still absolutely fine, and am only upgrading for HDMI 2.0 capability for PS4 Pro and 4kHDR set compatibility, I'm thinking the 1607 is fine enough.
No change in video capability between both models ... both only upscale to 4k/30 as noted on p. 241 in the NR1608 Owner's manual. However, the NR1608 will be receiving the new DTS Virtual:X feature via a future firmware update.
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No change in video capability between both models ... both only upscale to 4k/30 as noted on p. 241 in the NR1608 Owner's manual. However, the NR1608 will be receiving the new DTS Virtual:X feature via a future firmware update.
Many thanks JDsmoothie. Noted
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No change in video capability between both models ... both only upscale to 4k/30 as noted on p. 241 in the NR1608 Owner's manual. However, the NR1608 will be receiving the new DTS Virtual:X feature via a future firmware update.
Virtual X sounds interesting. I currently have a lowly 5.1 system, with no room for expansion (limited by the old ball and chain, and small progeny running around). I note the 1607 has DTS:X support - does anyone have any experience with virtual X on a 5.1? Is it amazing enough over DTS:X to warrant the extra £150 I'd have to spend in the knowledge that I can't expand my speaker set up?

Thanks for all your help team.
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Many thanks JDsmoothie. Noted
Also the NR1508 and NR1608 now use the same 32bit AK4458VN DAC as is only found on the 2016 SR7011.
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