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Replacing Denon 1612

I've recently upgraded to dual subwoofers and no matter what I do, I'm unable to get satisfactory results calibrating them with Audyssey Multeq on my Denon 1612. It's time I upgrade anyway, since I want something that can do 4K and I want the best version of Audyssey, along with SubEQ HT.

I haven't shopped for receivers in over 7 years, so I'm very behind on all the latest features. I read the 10 things to consider when shopping for receivers thread and that led me to consider the Denon X3300W. It seems like it has all the things I'm looking for, at a decent price, but I wanted to get some opinions.

I have the two HSU VTF-3 MK5 subs, 3 NHT SuperOne 2.1's up front and two energy take classics as the rears, though I'll probably upgrade them to something a little bigger at some point. Is the X3300W a good choice for this setup? I don't really have a firm budget, but 4K, the latest version of Audyssey and SubEQ HT are must haves for me.
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Both the X3300W and X4300H are on clearance as 2016 models and would provide the upgrade to the much better quality XT32.
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I've recently upgraded to dual subwoofers and no matter what I do, I'm unable to get satisfactory results calibrating them with Audyssey Multeq on my Denon 1612. It's time I upgrade anyway, since I want something that can do 4K and I want the best version of Audyssey, along with SubEQ HT.

I haven't shopped for receivers in over 7 years, so I'm very behind on all the latest features. I read the 10 things to consider when shopping for receivers thread and that led me to consider the Denon X3300W. It seems like it has all the things I'm looking for, at a decent price, but I wanted to get some opinions.

I have the two HSU VTF-3 MK5 subs, 3 NHT SuperOne 2.1's up front and two energy take classics as the rears, though I'll probably upgrade them to something a little bigger at some point. Is the X3300W a good choice for this setup? I don't really have a firm budget, but 4K, the latest version of Audyssey and SubEQ HT are must haves for me.
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Both the X3300W and X4300H are on clearance as 2016 models and would provide the upgrade to the much better quality XT32.
Crutchfield has a very informative website, including a comparison tool. Here are the X3300 and X4300.

https://www1.crutchfield.com/Product...=01|033AVX3300

Denon AVR-X4300H
Emotiva XPA Gen3 3 channel
Klipsch RP-280f LR, RP-260f SR, RP-450c, RF-82 II SB, RC-10 height
SVS SB12-NSD x4
OPPO UDP-203 TiVo Roamio, adequate Samsung UHD LED TV
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Check out NewEgg for the 3300 for $499.....

Just my $0.02...
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Check out NewEgg for the 3300 for $499.....

Just my $0.02...
That's a good deal, and World Wide Stereo(the seller at Newegg making that offer) is authorized. Supposedly though, Denon has refused to honor warrantees of their product because Newegg isn't authorized, which is lame, as the authorized seller is listed on the Newegg invoice.

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Emotiva XPA Gen3 3 channel
Klipsch RP-280f LR, RP-260f SR, RP-450c, RF-82 II SB, RC-10 height
SVS SB12-NSD x4
OPPO UDP-203 TiVo Roamio, adequate Samsung UHD LED TV
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The X4300H is not $799 @ Amazon and $750 at Walmart. I imagine they will blow through them soon at that price point. I bought one today, for what it's worth.
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Accessories4less has the X3300W for $499.99. It seemed like the X3300W and X4300H had very similar specs. The only difference was the extra 20 watts and the 2 extra channels on the X4300H. I'll only ever use 5 channels anyway, so would it really be worth the extra 200 dollars?
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Accessories4less has the X3300W for $499.99. It seemed like the X3300W and X4300H had very similar specs. The only difference was the extra 20 watts and the 2 extra channels on the X4300H. I'll only ever use 5 channels anyway, so would it really be worth the extra 200 dollars?
The X4300 offers more than that, although maybe nothing of interest to you. If none of the following interests you, I'd save the $200, the x3300 should make a fine 5.2 receiver.

Upgrading from the X3300W adds: 2 additional on board amps (with capability to expand to 11 using an external 2CH amp), a second main zone HDMI monitor output, 11.2 main zone pre-outs, Zone 3, a 2nd 12v trigger, front panel display of speaker inputs (or outputs), PHONO input, 32 bit DAC, metal front panel with 2 line display, Custom 2 CH settings (using FL/FR or dedicated Front B)(LARGE/SMALL; crossover settings, sub – on/off, distance, level), on board Denon HEOS module (allows streaming of HEOS app music services to the AVR as well as streaming PCM 2.0 source from the AVR to HEOS wireless speakers set up around the home), one internal cooling fan, and Auro 3D capable (via firmware upgrade - $199USD).

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Emotiva XPA Gen3 3 channel
Klipsch RP-280f LR, RP-260f SR, RP-450c, RF-82 II SB, RC-10 height
SVS SB12-NSD x4
OPPO UDP-203 TiVo Roamio, adequate Samsung UHD LED TV
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The X4300 offers more than that, although maybe nothing of interest to you. If none of the following interests you, I'd save the $200, the x3300 should make a fine 5.2 receiver.

Upgrading from the X3300W adds: 2 additional on board amps (with capability to expand to 11 using an external 2CH amp), a second main zone HDMI monitor output, 11.2 main zone pre-outs, Zone 3, a 2nd 12v trigger, front panel display of speaker inputs (or outputs), PHONO input, 32 bit DAC, metal front panel with 2 line display, Custom 2 CH settings (using FL/FR or dedicated Front B)(LARGE/SMALL; crossover settings, sub – on/off, distance, level), on board Denon HEOS module (allows streaming of HEOS app music services to the AVR as well as streaming PCM 2.0 source from the AVR to HEOS wireless speakers set up around the home), one internal cooling fan, and Auro 3D capable (via firmware upgrade - $199USD).
Thanks for the breakdown. I wasn't aware there were so many differences. As long as I'm not losing out on audio quality without this stuff, then I'm alright with the x3300.
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