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Help me Chose a Receiver....Denon AVR-X3400H?

Hi all,

Recently I have purchased the B&W 684 S2 speakers as a replacement of my old Infinity Alpha 5 speaker set. My next step is to replace my current Sony STR DE875 5.1 receiver (approx. 13 years old). After reading several reviews and posts, I am seriously considering the new Denon AVR X3400H as it includes HEOS functionality as well. My question is, do you think that the sound quality between my old and new receiver will be noticeable different on the B&W speakers (for now in Stereo setting)?

Currently I am streaming music using Tidal (Hi-Fi) on my IPhone, connecting via the headphone jack to my Sony receiver. The sound does sounds slightly better on my speakers than using Deezer. Will HEOS, make a big difference in sound quality by streaming the audio signal directly to the receiver?

Thank you for your advice.

Kind regards,

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Hi all,

Recently I have purchased the B&W 684 S2 speakers as a replacement of my old Infinity Alpha 5 speaker set. My next step is to replace my current Sony STR DE875 5.1 receiver (approx. 13 years old). After reading several reviews and posts, I am seriously considering the new Denon AVR X3400H as it includes HEOS functionality as well. My question is, do you think that the sound quality between my old and new receiver will be noticeable different on the B&W speakers (for now in Stereo setting)?

Currently I am streaming music using Tidal (Hi-Fi) on my IPhone, connecting via the headphone jack to my Sony receiver. The sound does sounds slightly better on my speakers than using Deezer. Will HEOS, make a big difference in sound quality by streaming the audio signal directly to the receiver?

Thank you for your advice.

Kind regards,

Emil
I have owned both Denon and Sony receivers each replacing another at times, my reason for Denon is processing of surround, general features and overall build quality. The STR-DE models are Sony's lower END models and for Denon anything above the 2400 is mid to higher level. So it's really not much to compare in terms of AMPS and what really drives sound etc. For video up-converting I always found the Denon does a better job plus the Denon has much better options for room setup and advanced eq etc.

So my vote is for the Denon and I believe that you will not only enjoy better sound but also have better features all around given the age difference from your old to the new.

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The Denon x4300 is on clearance right now, it's a higher end, but slightly older receiver that has HEOS. It would be cheaper than an x3400.

Older Apple products don't have the best analog(headphone jack) sound quality. I don't know if this is still true, but if it is, I would think HEOS would be slightly better.

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Thanks. I am currently very pleased with the new B&W 684 S2 speakers, however I noticed that the bass sounds a bit 'soft'. Could that be improved 'noticeably' by such a new receiver?
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The Audyssey XT32 will do a better job calibrating your speakers than whatever room EQ was available on the Sony.

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Thanks! I just found a good offer for the Denon 4300 for just EUR 99 more compared to the new Denon 3400 model. Is it worth it considering the older but higher end model in regard to sound quality etc?
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Thanks! I just found a good offer for the Denon 4300 for just EUR 99 more compared to the new Denon 3400 model. Is it worth it considering the older but higher end model in regard to sound quality etc?
As long as they both have the features you need I doubt they are going to sound noticeably different. They both have the same version of Audyssey (XT32). The 4300 is a higher level receiver and can process more channels, however; it is the better bargain right now on close it if you think you might ever run a full Atmos set up with 7.1.4.
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That's true thanks. Just one more question, would the denon AVR 3400 be capable of handling the 'power demanding' B&W 683 S2 as well in case i would like to upgrade in the future?
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That's true thanks. Just one more question, would the denon AVR 3400 be capable of handling the 'power demanding' B&W 683 S2 as well in case i would like to upgrade in the future?
If not, the additional 20W in the X4300H isn't going to make a difference. Instead you would need to add a much more powerful external amp (eg. 250W+) via the main zone pre-outs on the X3400H.
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Thanks. I am currently very pleased with the new B&W 684 S2 speakers, however I noticed that the bass sounds a bit 'soft'. Could that be improved 'noticeably' by such a new receiver?
Nope - unless something isn't set right in your current AVR. The Denons will give you some settings which may "help" bass at low volumes like Dynamic EQ. You could also run the Audyssey calibration and manually boost the bass with the trims - which many people do.

Your best solution is likely to be purchasing a competent subwoofer for your room to augment your B&W speakers.
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