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"OFFICIAL" 2017 Marantz AV7704 Owner's Thread

This new 11CH pre/pro (ie. no amps on board) has been released and should be available for purchase by next week so time to start up the dedicated Owner's thread for all you would be and soon to be new owners.

* HEOS multi room technology built in
* HDCP 2.2 & HDMI 2.0b - 8 inputs / 3 outputs
* Dolby Vision + HLG (on board as opposed to future firmware update on the AV7703))
* 11.2 channel processing
* Dolby Atmos / DTS:X
* Auro-3D now included at no charge ($199 on the AV7703)
* ISFccc Certification/Calibration
* HDAMs (Hyper Dynamic Amp Module)
* Multi zone/multi source HDMI
* Audyssey app support, MultEQ XT32, SubEQ HT, LFC
* Audyssey MultEQ Editor App
* Digital Audio to Remote Zones (PCM 2.0 over HDMI/optical/digital coax to Zone 2 and over optical/digital coax to Zone 3)
* Enhanced Multi Zone (HPF, Tone, Mono/Stereo)
* Dual band support 2.4 GHz/5.0GHz
* 32 bit AKM 4458VN DAC
* HDMI Diagnostics (new)
* eARC (enhanced audio return channel) (new; via future firmware update)
* Crestron Connect
* Phono Input
* 12 volt trigger, RC-5 input and output & flasher input
* 3 Component inputs
* Dual subwoofer outputs (individual volume/delay)
* Dual DC triggers
* Streaming services: Pandora, Sirius/XM, Internet Radio, Spotify Amazon Prime, iHeart Radio, SoundCloud, Tidal via HEOS
* AM/FM/Bluetooth/Wi-Fi
* 3 Audio Zones

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Reset to original factory settings (no change in current firmware version)

1. On the front panel, turn OFF the power using the POWER button.
2. On the front panel, momentarily press and then release the POWER button (as you would when normally powering on the unit) while simultaneously pressing/holding the GAME and INFO buttons (under front panel flap).
3. Remove your fingers from the GAME and INFO buttons when “Initialized” appears on the front panel display.


Resetting network settings (the menu “Amp Assign”, “Speaker Config.” and “Video” settings are not reset)

1. On the front panel, turn ON the power by pressing the POWER button.
2. Turn the INPUT SELECTOR (left large knob) to select “HEOS Music”.
3. Press and hold the BACK and ENTER buttons (under the front panel flap) at the same time for at least 3 seconds.
4. Remove your fingers from the two buttons when “Network Reset...” appears on the front panel display.
5 “Completed” is shown in the front panel display when the reset is complete.


Note: Prior to doing either of the above resets, use the SETUP - GENERAL - “Save & Load” function (to USB drive) to save the details of various settings configured on the unit to include the Audyssey settings. The LOAD function can then be used after the reset to restore these saved settings.

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so $2100 for this, or $3900 for a AV8802A? hmm....
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For optimum fidelity and the widest dynamic range with lowest distortion, the AV7704 features advanced reference-class 32-bit AKM D/A converters on all channels.

Thanks for the AV7704 DAC info.
Also would like to know what DAC's they will be using in the new AV8804.
Anybody knows please tell.

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so $2100 for this, or $3900 for a AV8802A? hmm....
If you are paying $3900 for a 8802a you are way over paying a drastic amount. Do not get me wrong the 7704 sounds nice.
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For optimum fidelity and the widest dynamic range with lowest distortion, the AV7704 features advanced reference-class 32-bit AKM D/A converters on all channels.

Thanks for the AV7704 DAC info.
Also would like to know what DAC's they will be using in the new AV8804.
Anybody knows please tell.
As a side note, their pending flagship will be called an AV8805. It's safe to say this will happen with a price hike for several reasons. SQ wise, the 8802A will sound better for discriminating ears. Re: the DAC on the upcoming flagship. I didn't ask, but it is fair to say they will be partnering with whatever is/will be the top-of-the-line AKM DAC. Additionally, it seems most ubber spendy stand alone DAC's are now specing in the AKM brand.

Re: The 7704's timing. They finally arrived in CA last week and they are in transit to dealers that have ordered them. I expect to get my batch soon and when I do, I want to compare the SQ between it and the 7703. It will probably be tie. But I hope the NEW AKM's add some sonic value. I heard that the AV7704 was "re-tuned" with incremental tweaks. I'm going to ask my engineering contacts for specifics. We shall see... But their are always running changes specifically related to sound quality from year to year. What that means to the ear is another topic. Also, it is not the same DAC chip as the 8802A. The 7704 uses the AK4458VN. The 7702, mkii, 7703, and now 7704 all use an 8 channel DAC. But for the 7704, it now uses this one which they are touting as an upgrade (see http://www.akm.com/akm/en/product/da...artno=AK4458VN ).

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JD covered the bullet points. I'd highlight from his post the differences from the AV7703: The AV7704 now has Auro-3D included at no charge. Also the new 32 bit's AKM DAC's. Additionally, HDMI Diagnostics, and now eARC via future firmware update.

A lot of people are hearing the term eARC for the 1st time. it stands for enhanced Audio Return Channel . It's valuable for people who steam services from their TV like Netflix or use their TV's built in tuner (cutting the cable cord) to drive audio. So the AV7704 gets the audio signal from the TV and processes it for surround sound. Before, via ARC, you were limited to the amount of channels and bandwidth. With eARC (e stands for enhanced) It provides much higher bitrate audio PLUS more advanced audio formats. Most importantly, object-based audio such as Dolby Atmos and DTS:X.
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Marantz 8012 vs 7704? I see the price difference is about 1K. Wondering what the 8012 would have over the 7704?

thanks in advance.
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Marantz 8012 vs 7704? I see the price difference is about 1K. Wondering what the 8012 would have over the 7704?

thanks in advance.
I posted this in anther thread. So there is some more info than is needed.


"The 8012 is a tweaked out Denon 6400h. Like the Denon 6400h, the Marantz 8012 will also be made in Japan. So the pending 7500h, 6400h, and pending AV8805 prepro will all be manufactured in Japan. All others will be made in Vietnam. It's important to note, the 8802A (which has become a better value because of vendor promos to dealers) still sounds the best in the line-up. Yea, the 7500h is going to cost even more than 8012. That price has not been picked/calculated or announced.

Back to the 8012 Marantz receiver. Basically, take the 6400h (which sounds wonderful) and give it the current feedback loop HDAM's, a better power supply, and a lower noise/RF shield "copper chassis". There could be other things, but that is the biggest difference. I'll address each item. I realize some people who spend a lot of time reading these forums know this, but I am typing it for convenience to others. Basically, the 8012 will use the HDAM's which are discreetly built operational amplifiers per channel and once of the reason why people like the new current feedback sound. I forgot to ask which version of HDAM they used (their are two versions). But I will ask. Also, the power supply is bigger which offers more headroom (helps better all specs including all channels driven). Finally, the copper chassis is functional at rejecting interference (i.e. a Faraday cage) PLUS the copper has low ohms per square that factually helps the signal path (noise). I mentioned this in another thread. The copper just so happens to look nice to some eyes and people assume it's a gimmick. Well, they used it for technical reasons. Sure, they made it pretty for marketing reasons too (two birds with one stone).

The "flagship" pending 7500h will be based off of the AVR8805. In other words, bigger badder DAC section and any key features that are pending on the 8805. I'm not at liberty to talk about what those are on a forum. But I've learned enough to know that I'm excited to get my hands on one. I was also promised that I won't be disappointed."
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If you are paying $3900 for a 8802a you are way over paying a drastic amount. Do not get me wrong the 7704 sounds nice.
of course, but that's my point... same can be said for the 7704. I currently have a 8802A and wont be upgrading any time soon.
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