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post #91 of 2166 Old 09-30-2004, 06:28 AM
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I appreciate that IR customer support hasn't been the greatest strange company that way - but I really like the RDC-7 and it's functionality / reliability and was very happy with the the last upgrade. In fact it was out of my system for several months due to a problem created by another component and when I put it back last night i was in heaven listening to redbook Cd's using the RDC-7 direct mode.

I intend to pursue a trade-in as far as I can. If they don't offer the program trade then i will have a lot of other options - including keeping the RDC-7,trading it to a dealer, selling it on EBay or Agon or buying another mfr's pre-pro. This will also give me time to evaluate whether the RDC-7.1 is a big step on the RDC-7. I'm fine with that.

I have a dvd player with firewire / HDMI / DVI connections so my main reason for upgrading the pre-pro is firewire - SACD / DVDA . Minor reason is HDMI video switching. Not sure how to evaluate reason is DPL2X - I haven't heard it yet so while I hear it's a worthwhile improvement over DPL2 I'm not there yet.
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Know this is a little late in the game, but I emailed Onkyo a few days ago and got this in response:

"Thank You for contacting Onkyo USA Product Support.

The RDA, RDC and RDV 7.1's will be available in the first two weeks of December."

Sorry guys, looks like these things got pushed back a little further.

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Know this is a little late in the game, but I emailed Onkyo a few days ago and got this in response:

"Thank You for contacting Onkyo USA Product Support.

The RDA, RDC and RDV 7.1's will be available in the first two weeks of December."

Sorry guys, looks like these things got pushed back a little further.

Jared

7 months late but it wil have every important feature. Hopefully it won't slip any further. I am anxious to give it a test.
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Well Onkyo have officially anounced all three new IR prodicts for November 25th in Japan so the US release wont be far behind. See the thread I started for the link.
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Interesting. I wonder if these latest delays were so that they could include the latest HDMI chipset.

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Any new news??? I've been holding off buying a receiver so that I can possibly purchase one of these *future proof* receivers. Any updates on price (pm me)

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The new card-based Integra 10.5 receiver is now on the Integra website. For more info go to

http://www.integrahometheater.com/mo...s=Receiver&p=s

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And the RDC-7.1 is now on the IR website: www.integraresearch.com

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Nice spot Raz. Wow they redid their entire website (about time). Now all we need is a definitive answer about the trade-in

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The site's still not complete, though. There are several tabs which say "under construction". And no new pics except the small one on the main page. At least its a start.

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It doesnt seem to mention optional modules like the Japanese site, do you think the USA release of the RDC-7.1 is going to be fixed spec rather than build to order?
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It doesnt seem to mention optional modules like the Japanese site, do you think the USA release of the RDC-7.1 is going to be fixed spec rather than build to order?

This is what the IR website says about the RDC-7.1: "the unique card-based modular design lets you choose the inputs and outputs for your particular needs".

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It is kind of odd that all of the other new products (DVD players and receivers from Integra Research, Integra and Onkyo) are advertised as having Wolfson DACs that convert both PCM and DSD natively, whereas the RDC-7.1 is said to have "Linear PCM 192kHz/24-Bit DACs." I wonder whether they have jetisoned the WM8719s for this, their flagship product. Also, now no mention can be found on the Wolfson site of the WM8719 (the DAC I saw and photographed in the Onkyo and Intgra DVD players at CES 2004), and the signal to noise ratio listed for the new DVD players (118 dB) is better than the MW8719 could possibly muster.

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That sounds like some figure possible with TI PCM1792/1794 or DSD1792/1794... 118db!! I'd be glad if RDC-7.1 has that TI/BB top-end DAC.
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Originally posted by Steve Goff
It is kind of odd that all of the other new products (DVD players and receivers from Integra Research, Integra and Onkyo) are advertised as having Wolfson DACs that convert both PCM and DSD natively, whereas the RDC-7.1 is said to have "Linear PCM 192kHz/24-Bit DACs." I wonder whether they have jetisoned the WM8719s for this, their flagship product. Also, now no mention can be found on the Wolfson site of the WM8719 (the DAC I saw and photographed in the Onkyo and Intgra DVD players at CES 2004), and the signal to noise ratio listed for the new DVD players (118 dB) is better than the MW8719 could possibly muster.

Presently...
Wolfson is facing some very serious litigation regarding their converters, many brands are changing to other brand parts to avoid being involved..
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I saw that Cirrus filed a patent infringement suit against Wolfson in October 2003, and that the WM8719 was one of the chips mentioned, but I have not heard of any recent update.

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BTW I got a super terse, borderline rude response from IR when I emailed asking for information about a ship date and/or a trade-in announcement. And this supposedly came from someone in customer "service." They sure are making it easier to decide to buy the D1...

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Yeah, I just got a response to a three week old question sent via their website, but it essentially told me that my "information" had been forwarded to product support and that they would contact me "when a decision has been made." Useless, and maddening.

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I received an email today from one of the head guys at IR saying that the new stuff will be out before the end of the year and that they are still considering the upgrade path for existing customers.

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Steve,

Thanks for the update. Presumably that means they monitor us here and wanted to get some (hopefully) positive word out. That said, if they don't come through now, especially after going out of there way to let us know (through you) that they're still considering it, it'll make me even *more* inclined to go with Anthem (or someone else).

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Originally posted by Steve Goff
they are still considering the upgrade path for existing customers.

That doesn't mean that they are still considering a trade in program. Maybe they are just considering upgrading the RDC-7's to firewire.

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Raz,

Very true (sadly). We'll see soon I guess/hope.

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I hesitated from giving a direct quote from the email, but here is is: "As for a trade in policy, we are still considering the upgrade path for existing Integra Research customers." So he had in mind the possibility of a trade in program, but could not say whether one will happen. It would be speculative to read anyting more into this. As you said, we'll see.

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Thanks for sharing the quote Steve. I'm still hopeful, though the longer IR takes in shipping the 7.1 and deciding what if any upgrade path they'll offer, the closer we get to Anthem upgrading the D1, potentially removing any timing advantage to one unit or the other (for those of us for whom integrated digital video switching is a must).

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Considering the fact that only Anthony and Steve seem to be interested in a trade in - I don't see any other RDC-7 owners posting here or on any other forums - I suggest that IR do the smart thing and give them 2 free RDC-7.1's and end all this brouhaha.

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Once the word gets out about the RDC-7.1 being released, I'm sure there will be a much greater interest level in a possible trade-in among RDC-7 owners. Also, all such owners don't participate in the various forums. I don't own the RDC-7 myself, but how they handle the trade-in/upgrade situation might have an impact on my RDC-7.1 purchase decision.

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Considering the fact that only Anthony and Steve seem to be interested in a trade in - I don't see any other RDC-7 owners posting here or on any other forums - I suggest that IR do the smart thing and give them 2 free RDC-7.1's and end all this brouhaha.

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Me too! Thanks Raz

Steve, maybe we should take Raz' plan right to the top of IR

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The configurator for the 7.1 is up. Looks like only the analogue audio, digital audio and I-Link modules are compulsory. Also I think upgradeability is unlikely, the modules seem to be one per system only and while that may be a firmware limitation I think its probably a hardware limitation caused by specific individual module connectors although the AES option does contradict the idea a little.
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From my discussions with the folks at CES, I believe that individual processors can be reconfigured with new or different modules, and that this may happen at the dealer level. We talked about this specifically in relation to the HDMI module, since the plan then was to initially release an HDMI module that did not have DVD Audio capability, with another module later for the same slot that had that capability.

It is otherwise unclear whether the backplane design will permit modules with new functions, as opposed to upgraded modules of the same sort. I kind of doubt that anything radically different and new could be accomidated.

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