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Where can I find the "Operating Instructions" in a PDF format?
This is still not available at the Panny web site.

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Here is a simple question:

Does the XR55 replace the XR50?

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Where can I find the "Operating Instructions" in a PDF format?
This is still not available at the Panny web site.

There a link to the manual in message #36 of this thread.
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SEr, who was the courier from Amazon?
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FWIW, the XR55 (silver only) is starting to appear in the Canadian big box inventory systems. This means you can order it, but there is zero stock so far. Usually the appearance of the model code means the inventory is coming soon.

The retail price is $399.99 Cdn at the 3 major box stores I've seen.
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Just bought one of these to replace my current 7.1 setup. Yammy v995 running the 5.1 and a technique two channel job for the rear channels, feeding them analog from a Revo 7.1/HTPC setup.

It works pretty well, but I'm getting noise for about 3 to 5 seconds when I start up Theatertek. It fades out and then everything works fine.

I plan on using the digital out of the revo, and am really interested in hearing that digital clarity that owners of these panasonic xr series receivers keep raving about!

Thanks to everyone who has posted their reviews and experiences.
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Maybe I missed something, but does the XR55 receiver have any tone controls?
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Maybe I missed something, but does the XR55 receiver have any tone controls?

It has bass and treble settings.
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I'm still trying to decide between the XR70 (now $299 at Amazon) and the XR55 (now $229). I dont actually care much about the 2 main differences (6.1 vs 7.1, HDMI in/out on the 70). However, I do care about the height of these units, and if the specs are right, the 70 is a bit smaller (at least in height) than the 55 (3.56" high for the 70 vs 4.22'' for the 55). I know thats no way to pick a receiver (lol) but I wonder if thats right, and also why is the 55 bigger? That slight size advantage plus bi-amping and a better remote might just push me to the 70... Thanks...
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Steve I am in the same boat as you choosing between the XR70 & XR55. I think the height of the XR55 is larger then the XR70 is because there are no spring clips on the the 55 which makes the connections bigger.


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Does anyone know if and when the B&M retailers (like Circuit City, Best Buy, Fry's) will start carrying the XR-55?

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I'm still trying to decide between the XR70 (now $299 at Amazon) and the XR55 (now $229). I dont actually care much about the 2 main differences (6.1 vs 7.1, HDMI in/out on the 70). However, I do care about the height of these units, and if the specs are right, the 70 is a bit smaller (at least in height) than the 55 (3.56" high for the 70 vs 4.22'' for the 55). I know thats no way to pick a receiver (lol) but I wonder if thats right, and also why is the 55 bigger? That slight size advantage plus bi-amping and a better remote might just push me to the 70... Thanks...
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steve-

the 55 biamps. the earlier post by someone relating some salesguy talk was completely wrong.
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That slight size advantage plus bi-amping and a better remote might just push me to the 70... Thanks...
Steve

My XR55 is bi-amping my bi-wired mains very well. I love it.
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My XR55 is bi-amping my bi-wired mains very well. I love it.

Does the bi-amping work with 5.1? (fronts bi-amped + center and surrounds) or only in stereo?

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Does the bi-amping work with 5.1? (fronts bi-amped + center and surrounds) or only in stereo?

Are you asking about bi-amping all 5 channels or bi-amping fronts with 5.1 signal?
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Are you asking about bi-amping all 5 channels or bi-amping fronts with 5.1 signal?

The latter.

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it only biamps in stereo mode.

there is a workaround for surround mode- use the "B" pair bindings for the low freq on the mains. the "B"s play in surround mode and are presumed "large" by the AVR.
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the 55 biamps. the earlier post by someone relating some salesguy talk was completely wrong.

Thanks for clarifying. I should add that I am really bothered by the fact that neither of these receivers does up-conversion. That has me thinking about the Onkyo TX-LR552 (which ie even cheaper than the XR55 and does up-conversion although I worry about its relative lack of power) or even the JVC RX-D302, which also does up-conversion and has a totally rad wireless USB feature (I sometimes get distracted by bells and whistles like this lol).

I have heard that the Onkyo is ok but that the JVC is not really in the same ballpark as the Onkyo and the Pannies. Comments?

Also, anyone want to comment, if your priority was a slim amp that sounds good for both music and HT, looks great (out to HDTV), has decent power, and has up-conversion (to component), which receiver would you pick (I suppose that opens the door to other receivers as well)...

Thannks again. I'm a newbie here (upgrading from a crappy Sony HTIB) and I really appreciate all the advice and opinions...

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Steve, have you looked at the Denon 1905 (refurbed) from eCost? Right around the same cost as the Panny XR55.

I've been looking for a little while, too. I looked at a XR70 at Fry's this weekend. It sucked having to look at it on the main floor and get this, they had it hooked up to two computer speakers for listening. I almost puked. I ended up going to another Fry's because the guy at the 1st store said they'd have it hooked up to real speakers in a real listening room. Not. Same deal as the first, except they had some cheap polk bookshelves so at least you could listen with almost real speakers....of course they had no cd player hooked up, so all you could listen to was FM radio.

I was not happy. Anyway, what little I was able to listen to was good considering two channel fm (who listens to that anymore, except for in the car?), but the construction seemed a bit lacking to me. One of the smaller nobs up front seemed to wiggle back and forth enough for me to reconsider buying one.

At this point, I'm considering either a Denon 1905/2105 or a Yamaha RX-V657/HTR5860. I really wanted to like the XR70, but I don't want to buy without listening to it in a real room with real speakers especially now since I have some doubts about the construction.
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My XR55 arrived today. I only had a few minutes after setting it up to listen to it, since my toddler woke up and demanded attention (she's autistic).

Initial impressions are very positive. Binding posts were surprisingly sturdy, and handled my banana-plugged garden-hose diameter speaker cable for my front and center speakers as well as my old Denon AVR-3300. Sound quality seemed very good, but I'll have to do a more in-depth setup and listening session before I can make a final judgment. At this point, I'd say there's an 80-90% chance I'm keeping it and replacing my old Denon (which was only 5 channels and didn't have Dolby PLII).

It was more solid than I had anticipated, since it weighs only 1/4 as much as the Denon, and did not seem to complain when I cranked it to theater level through my Paradigm Reference setup. Further tests and posts to come soon.

Upconversion does not bother me, as I only use component video. However, the lack of onscreen display is annoying in the setup, and the setup procedure is a little awkward. The remote is lousy, as others have complained, but I'll be using a Philips pronto, mostly.

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Steve, have you looked at the Denon 1905 (refurbed) from eCost?

No, because I really like the idea of a small, light, digital receiver. And, the more I think about it the more I am leaning towards the Onkyo or the JVC...

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... I should add that I am really bothered by the fact that neither of these receivers does up-conversion. ....

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Why is up-conversion so important? It doesn't make a crappy signal look better. And all decent sources of video have at least component out. Is it only a matter of having a single cable going out?
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Does anyone know if you can program a remote to turn Speakers A and B on and off? There doesn't appear to be such buttons on the remote. Thanks
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Why is up-conversion so important? It doesn't make a crappy signal look better. And all decent sources of video have at least component out. Is it only a matter of having a single cable going out?

It may not be important to everyone. But it is to me (I think!). This is the main music / theater unit used by 5 family members, and some of them can barely work a remote. So the less switching, configuring, and complexity the better.

Also, in my case, I have at least 2 devices (older VCR and video game unit) which dont use component inputs. And, yeah I only want to run one cable...

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I'm still trying to decide between the XR70 (now $299 at Amazon) and the XR55 (now $229). I dont actually care much about the 2 main differences (6.1 vs 7.1, HDMI in/out on the 70). However, I do care about the height of these units, and if the specs are right, the 70 is a bit smaller (at least in height) than the 55 (3.56" high for the 70 vs 4.22'' for the 55). I know thats no way to pick a receiver (lol) but I wonder if thats right, and also why is the 55 bigger? That slight size advantage plus bi-amping and a better remote might just push me to the 70... Thanks...
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Well the first specs I saw on the XR55 (here and on Amazon) showed it was less than 3" high and I was getting ready to order one when I saw this message. I had an XR70 temporarily but the analog inputs constantly overloaded, but it was about 3" high, 3.2" according to the Panny website, and I had wanted to get another receiver approx. the same height and size and was hoping this was it. Can anyone confirm the XR55 is an inch taller than the XR70.
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It may not be important to everyone. But it is to me (I think!). This is the main music / theater unit used by 5 family members, and some of them can barely work a remote. So the less switching, configuring, and complexity the better.

Also, in my case, I have at least 2 devices (older VCR and video game unit) which dont use component inputs. And, yeah I only want to run one cable...

Steve

I hear you on the "less complexity" thing. My wife has a Ph.D. from Stanford in Electrical Engineering, yet seems remarkably incompetant when it comes to operating a remote, especially in my theater. She may be able to design a microprocessor, but she's helpless when it comes to running the HT.

So I bought a Philips Pronto off ebay, programmed it, and made it a one-touch thing.

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The XR55 is just under 4.25" high.
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ok, more on my status with this thing:

i entertain a lot.

i was set to return the unit for its lack of a 3rd digital optical input or a digital optical output. i need a third input in my projector room, from the STB, HTPC there, and optical from my audio room AVR. no way around it. i could not instead swap out the panny with my audio room AVR since the panny does not have digital out and i need digital output to flow from audio room to projector room since my audo room has my reference CD player, etc.

BUT

the fact the competing 7.1 budget receivers do not play "B" pairs/zone 2 when the receiver is playing digital sources, while the panasonic does, means i must keep the panasonic. i must be able to play on a back patio from my projector room AVR. i was pleasantly surprised to find a digital optical switch for $29 which i will try. if it works, then i can switch my 3 optical thru 2 inputs to the panasonic and keep the ability to play 10 speakers at once in my projector room/ back patio area. i'm going to save my money for a better receiver for my audio room, one that can play both zones in digital mode and with a digital optical out- a higher-end panasonic may end up there if one comes out.

i've given up on the remote, and will soon invest in a decent uniremote.

so, in the end, it is the multizone playing ability with digital sources that keeps this receiver in my house.
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