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Like the question says I have to turn my Marantz receiver up to -20 to get decent volume, -15 to get 75db. Is this normal? I first tried them with the Rocket Tyke system and Im getting the same results with some old Original Advents.
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Yes, this is normal. The -20 reading means that the receiver is playing at 20 db below reference. The "0" reading on your receiver should play at reference, which depends on who establishes reference (usually 75 or 85 db) and also the efficiency rating of the speaker. I've listened to the Tykes, and although they are a great value, won't like the "0" reading on your Marantz. Enjoy, and don't worry! :)
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I owned a Marantz SR7000 since mid of 2000, and when watching movies (no matter DD or DTS), the volume mostly turned-up to around -12 ! in order to obtain the right sound level to fully enjoy the movies !

I am using KEF Q50 as the main channel speaker, and KEF Model 90 as the center channel speaker.

Hence, don't worry to turn your Marantz to -20, it should be quite "normal".

BTW, what model is your Marantz ?
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I have a Marantz SR6400. I think its 110 x 6 and I was looking for old Jm Labs Chorus speaekers to match the 706 I have now. The older series is better than the newer series which makes them much harder to find used. Thanks for the help guys!
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I'm powering my B&W 804S with a Marantz SR8500 and my typical listening level with an analog connection from my CD player is between -17 and -15. On the rare occasion I go to -10.

TV watching is a totally different story. I'm using a digital out on my Scientific Atlanta digital cable box and I can listen at -35. For some reason it is much louder than the analog out from my CD player.
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I've got a Marantz SR7400 (with an 8400 on the way) powering some not very efficient speakers. Most movie watching is done between -20 and -14. Anything above -10 is REALLY loud, anything above 0 would probably cause hearing damage :-).
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Sounds normal to me. I went with a 7400 just recently and calibrated to 75 dB from all speakers using the internal test tones.

Normal TV listening is -25. Sometimes -20 is good too.

DVD viewing is fine at -25 but some DVDs are mixed too hot to play at -20.

Very typical, I think, and remember every manufacturer does things differently - it's no indication of relative power, as 1W generates at least 87-90 dB from most speakers.

I had a Denon 1602 and then 1803. They seemed to play louder - I could never listen to TV at -20, but then again I calibrated it differently, 75 dB at -5 or so from a DVD test disc. Interestingly the 7400 seems to be more variable. I played anything and everything at -25 on the Denons, but I vary things around a lot more with the Marantz. This may indicate material sounds less harsh at higher volumes, I don't know.
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My new setup is the 8500 and Rockets 850's/200 up front and for TV connect to my Dish 942 I set it betwean 20 and 30 all depending on the show/SAT or OTA. I always have to mute the commercial though.

For DVD's -20 is as loud as I can go unless I invite the neighbors over :-)

Why is there not an unofficial SR8500 thread any?
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Why is there a unofficial SR8500 thread any?
Yeah, I was kind of thinking of starting a 7400/8400/7500/8500 thread.

But I guess the thing is, these receivers have no issues. What would there be to talk about?:D
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Yeah, I was kind of thinking of starting a 7400/8400/7500/8500 thread.

But I guess the thing is, these receivers have no issues. What would there be to talk about?:D

Well we could talk about how nice they are... :D
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Well we could talk about how nice they are... :D
True.;) Or how unbelievably large they are.:) I don't know how much value that would be though.

However the manual is very skimpy (I thought Denon's manuals were bad, sheesh!) so there could be some newbies out there with unresolved questions.
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True.;) Or how unbelievably large they are.:) I don't know how much value that would be though.

However the manual is very skimpy (I thought Denon's manuals were bad, sheesh!) so there could be some newbies out there with unresolved questions.

Don't even get me started on the manual. :eek: I have never seen anything so poorly put together. You can tell they put next to no effort or thought into it.
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Don't even get me started on the manual. :eek: I have never seen anything so poorly put together. You can tell they put next to no effort or thought into it.
It covers what needs to be covered I guess. There are no spelling or grammatical errors.

However there's definitely no fluff or extra explanation. Denon has a nice section at the back of their manuals that goes a bit into the theory behind the various sound formats.

BTW do the new remotes buzz when backlit?
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It covers what needs to be covered I guess. There are no spelling or grammatical errors.

However there's definitely no fluff or extra explanation. Denon has a nice section at the back of their manuals that goes a bit into the theory behind the various sound formats.

BTW do the new remotes buzz when backlit?

Now that you mention it I believe they do.

I am not to fond of the remote either as the button are two close etc. I think my MX 850 that is on the way will resolve it this
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As far as the HT EQ, has anyone noticed that it affects the LFE signal also? i just want to confirm if its just my ears or its the reciever.
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As far as the HT EQ, has anyone noticed that it affects the LFE signal also? i just want to confirm if its just my ears or its the reciever.
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I haven't noticed it, but I haven't used the HT-EQ much.

I have another question so rather than further hijack bundee1's thread I think I'll start an official "Marantz 7400/7500/8400/8500" thread.:)

Edit: done, thread here!
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I haven't noticed it, but I haven't used the HT-EQ much.

I have another question so rather than further hijack bundee1's thread I think I'll start an official "Marantz 7400/7500/8400/8500" thread.:)

Edit: done, thread here!
I have been mulling over starting a thread for the 8400. Guess you got to it first. Go for it! :)

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You should set all channel volume to +10. it does not add noise, it for some reason missed a firmware before production...

i found aroudn -20 is almost earth shattering... i also do have very efficient speakers that accounts for it... but still set all channel levels to +10 or accordingly depending on your room.


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Like the question says I have to turn my Marantz receiver up to -20 to get decent volume, -15 to get 75db. Is this normal? I first tried them with the Rocket Tyke system and Im getting the same results with some old Original Advents.
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I run the SR6400 as pre out for a Bryston B9. I usually listen to music between -18 and -13 but when I want to show off what she can do I take it all the way up to -5. I have Paradigm studio 100v3’s. It very loud but still sounds incredible. :D
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