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shoot I have one last question. I seem to be hearing a delay from the sonos speakers. I have the delay feet set to 0 but I'm not sure if that's the correct adjustment because I think I still hear the delay...?
Delay only applies to the main zone. The newer models have a Video Mode that helps minimize any Zone 2 delay.
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Resurrecting an ANCIENT thread here (and apologies for the cross-posting here and in the 4806CI thread). An 4806CI has been the backbone of my main home theater room for more years than I remembered (until I was reminded of how long it's been by looking at the dates of some of the posts here). In the last few months, the AVR has been doing some flaky audio things--primarily seeming to struggle with properly decoding the audio stream so that the volume of voice in the center channel is correct. When the problem occurs, say on a broadcast of ESPN SportsCenter or an MLB Network news show, the talking head on TV's voice drops to a very low or non-existence volume while the "sound effects" are left in the front left and front right. The only way to get normal voice volume again would be to set the sound processing to "Stereo." Sometimes toggling surround modes might kick the sound back to normal. But more often than not, it didn't work. The So I followed the general recommended technique here and reset the processor. Since I didn't make a load file from the internet connection first (d'oh!), the reconfiguration was a pain in the backside. And of course I've forgotten everything I once knew about Audyssey so now the MultEQ XT light is off. And I've got to re-learn all that stuff.

Current problem, though, is the Surround Back Left speaker, which is emitting a buzzing sound. (This is independent of the audio problem described above. It's not a speaker problem--when the two Surround Back speakers are connected as Surround B, they work fine. Problem is confined to the Back Left speaker. There doesn't appear to be anything interfering/crossing the speaker connector posts on the back of the amp--they are clean.

What's the likely diagnosis here? A bad amp driving JUST the one speaker? And is there anything that an end-user can do? I could haul the 4806 out of its tight little cubby hole to vacuum out any dust. (My AV closet is tight and I don't relish disconnecting and reconnecting the AVR just to try this.)

Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated. I don't have any compelling need to upgrade and wouldn't relish the notion of coming out of pocket to get a replacement just to get the Surround Back working again. I was thinking I might be able to reconfigure the Surround B speakers to carry Surround Back information. But the setup doesn't seem to allow for that.
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Zone 2

Glad to see there are still users of the 4806. I had to move my 4806 out of the theater to the family room and I'm trying to set up zone 2 for the patio speakers. I'm pretty sure I have everything connected correctly. I can get music on zone 2 from the tuner and FIOS but not from the dvd player I can of course get sound (music) on the main zone from any source.

The audio from the dvd is via a digital optical cable to digital optical in on the 4806. Can this not be passed to zone 2?
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Glad to see there are still users of the 4806. I had to move my 4806 out of the theater to the family room and I'm trying to set up zone 2 for the patio speakers. I'm pretty sure I have everything connected correctly. I can get music on zone 2 from the tuner and FIOS but not from the dvd player I can of course get sound (music) on the main zone from any source.

The audio from the dvd is via a digital optical cable to digital optical in on the 4806. Can this not be passed to zone 2?

Correct. Digital signals will not pass to Zone 2. Connect a RCA analog audio cable from the source device.
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Correct. Digital signals will not pass to Zone 2. Connect a RCA analog audio cable from the source device.
JD, thanks for the info. I'll have to get some cables.
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My 4806 crashed during firmware update, anyone know how to fix it?
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My 4806 crashed during firmware update, anyone know how to fix it?
With the AVR powered off, press/hold the UP/DOWN arrow buttons on the front panel while powering on the AVR. This should reset the microprocessor and network and allow you to restart the firmware update.
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Quick Question: I don't want to go for 7200 as receiver technologies changes almost every year these days. How does the 4806 sound compares to the latest Denon latest receivers such as X4200/X6200. I only listen at moderate levels and my speakers are rated 4 ohm. I do understand latest receivers offers all latest technologies but asking from the SQ perspective alone such as Stereo or multi channel traditional formats such as Dolby Digital, DTS.
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Quick Question: I don't want to go for 7200 as receiver technologies changes almost every year these days. How does the 4806 sound compares to the latest Denon latest receivers such as X4200/X6200. I only listen at moderate levels and my speakers are rated 4 ohm. I do understand latest receivers offers all latest technologies but asking from the SQ perspective alone such as Stereo or multi channel traditional formats such as Dolby Digital, DTS.
As both use the much more advanced Audyssey MultEQ XT32 ... much better.
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As both use the much more advanced Audyssey MultEQ XT32 ... much better.
Thanks. Yes it does make sense as all the latest receiver uses advanced room correction technologies while the older receivers are solidly built with massive power supply but without the room correction it may not produce the best sound.
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intermittent optical connection, now completely gone :confused::confused:

back again.... I was having intermittent failure of the optical audio in, but now it's just gone - all of them, I mean (I've even tried the front opt-5 input). The 4806's lcd indicators -- on the (viewer's) left of the LCD screen -- show that the AVR isn't getting any input from any of the optical cables (tivo, dvd/cd, sonos). If I switch to an analog source then everything is fine.

When this first started happening a few weeks ago I reset the microprocessor and left it unplugged for a while, and the 4806's optical inputs began working properly. But last night they stopped again and, after leaving it unplugged all night and resetting the microprocessor, the audio still hasn't returned. I've also blown into the headphone jack, but I already knew this wasn't that issue - again, the LCD screen shows no signal from the opticals.

Did something indicate it was going to fail, and then in fact failed? and what would that something be, can I get another one and replace it myself (I can wield a soldiering iron and other similar tools)?

Assuming the worst however I ordered a 6300H from amazon. I've already had the 4806 repaired at least once and maybe twice over the last 10 years: At over 50 pounds it ain't a cheap or easy endeavor....

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Assuming the worst however I ordered a 6300H from amazon. I've already had the 4806 repaired at least once and maybe twice over the last 10 years: At over 50 pounds it ain't a cheap or easy endeavor....
I feel like congratulations are in order. Enjoy!
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I feel like congratulations are in order. Enjoy!
LOL, so you're siding with 'ditch the failing 4806 and upgrade' solution? Fair enough. Do you think there's a worthwhile market for a mostly-working 4806 without the firmware update and not a CI, or should I haul my poor old friend to the electronics recycling bin? Thanks

edit, I'll add that I have no need for a second avr right now and no desire to store a mostly-working one in the closet! I live in an apartment and need the space.

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My 4806 was a given to me by a friend. He had it sitting in his garage. Not sure how long it had been there. I was absolutely thrilled to get it.

I was able to integrate with a few other parts and now have a serial based Crestron controlled system that I control from an iPad. I did not need to use optical input for my situation. So, I do think the 4806 is still serviceable for someone even without the optical working.

My setup (especially the room) is quite modest. I am using EXT in for lossless audio for Blu-ray. Having decoding in the AVR would clean up the cabling a bit.

I hear you about space. I think the biggest issue with finding a home for the 4806 will be that there are not enough folks that understand what they are getting. The folks that do are not going to be close enough to come pick it up. Shipping it would cost a fortune!
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Hi all and good day to you,

Not sure how to post here only reply.

I just purchased an AVR 4806 from an ebay store being sold for parts or repair because of an HDMI issue where the video was destorted with artifacts, they had an 800 # listed So i called with questions and after awhile the guy offered me a discount for $175.00 Shipped !! I was ecstatic to say the least I was guessing from his description that they had fed a 1080p source into it and me knowing that it is not capable of that resolution went ahead and purchased it anyway, As it turns out that was in fact the issue... or was it?,

However there is one issue i found that they neglected to tell me? where the front display goes off and stays off, I studied the Dimmer/Direct function thoroughly and decided to lightly tap on the display and low and behold it came on, Obviously a loose connection somewhere but the problem remains and i have to continually repeat the process when i power the unit up, It will usually stay on for most of the day or not long at all, Has anyone experianced this issue and was there a specific fix like a particuler cable/plug or part on the display board itself?.

Also my second question is has anyone done the CI upgrade?, I would like to do this and have contacted Denon support and after a few days their reply was "No Longer Available" which was no surprise to me but i was hoping they would offer a 3rd party solution, Does anyone know the upgrade HDMI board part # and does anyone have the firmware laying around or was the firmware a direct ethernet to reciever install?, The option to purchase an AVR-4806Ci would be an expensive alternative and would negate the killer deal i just got.

Thanks in advance and Any input would be much appreciated.

My setup includes... A Monster Power HTUPS-3700 battery backup/power conditioner, Audiosource Amp 300 for surrounds, Sony CDP-CX355 300 disc mega cd changer, Kenwood GE-1100 EQ for visual effects only, Sansui SR-5090 Turntable, LG 55lh90 55" LED panel, Infinity il60 fronts, il36c center, il120s sub and budget surround and surround back towers, My Pioneer VDP, Technics cassette player and VCR are close by because i ran out of shelf space in my 3 shelf smoked glass with integrated swivel TV mount.
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Resurrected AVR 4806

I recovered my old 4806 from my EX recently and have employed it in my small 5.1 home theatre set-up. I am also interested to know if a firmware update is available for it and would certainly appreciate if someone was willing to share it here...

It is missing the Audyssey microphone and any leads on where to buy one would be appreciated. I have only quickly checked on Amazon but haven't seen one specifically for the 4806.

I am using it presently for audio only with my 4K Vizio P Series TV, So have all HDMI inputs going to the TV and one optical input back to the 4806 for DD or processing.

Any help would be appreciated!
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dumb me

I blew up my 4806 by trying to connect speaker wires while the unit was on (stupid). There was a flash and a pop. Now the unit will not come on, green light followed be rapid flashing red light. Do you think there is any market for this unit? I don't want to have it repaired as technology has moved on. Looking at an x3300W. Hope it compares to the 4806.
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Hi all and good day to you,

Not sure how to post here only reply.

I just purchased an AVR 4806 from an ebay store being sold for parts or repair because of an HDMI issue where the video was destorted with artifacts, they had an 800 # listed So i called with questions and after awhile the guy offered me a discount for $175.00 Shipped !! I was ecstatic to say the least I was guessing from his description that they had fed a 1080p source into it and me knowing that it is not capable of that resolution went ahead and purchased it anyway, As it turns out that was in fact the issue... or was it?,

However there is one issue i found that they neglected to tell me? where the front display goes off and stays off, I studied the Dimmer/Direct function thoroughly and decided to lightly tap on the display and low and behold it came on, Obviously a loose connection somewhere but the problem remains and i have to continually repeat the process when i power the unit up, It will usually stay on for most of the day or not long at all, Has anyone experianced this issue and was there a specific fix like a particuler cable/plug or part on the display board itself?.

Also my second question is has anyone done the CI upgrade?, I would like to do this and have contacted Denon support and after a few days their reply was "No Longer Available" which was no surprise to me but i was hoping they would offer a 3rd party solution, Does anyone know the upgrade HDMI board part # and does anyone have the firmware laying around or was the firmware a direct ethernet to reciever install?, The option to purchase an AVR-4806Ci would be an expensive alternative and would negate the killer deal i just got.

Thanks in advance and Any input would be much appreciated.

My setup includes... A Monster Power HTUPS-3700 battery backup/power conditioner, Audiosource Amp 300 for surrounds, Sony CDP-CX355 300 disc mega cd changer, Kenwood GE-1100 EQ for visual effects only, Sansui SR-5090 Turntable, LG 55lh90 55" LED panel, Infinity il60 fronts, il36c center, il120s sub and budget surround and surround back towers, My Pioneer VDP, Technics cassette player and VCR are close by because i ran out of shelf space in my 3 shelf smoked glass with integrated swivel TV mount.
I can't promise I have the wiring diagram..as I bought a Original boxed and packed 4806... in a warehouse Scratch and Dent sale ago out of a warehouse, about 8-9 years ago for about $5-600.00. Denon / Marantz had a service depot about 45 mins from my home.... I called them to fix a broken drop down door hinge, asked if they were doing the "CI" up conversion with all of the bells & whistles for about
they said 2 wks & $500-$600..... I jumped at it...... what they returned was an immaculate, "MINT" condition unit.... I have it sitting on a rack in my basement.... it is a magnificent sounding unit and in stereo.... the surround was quite good and quite satisfying... However, compared to my Regular system....(Thiel 3.7.. Bryston 7Bsst^ pair, Kimber 12TC....) not even in the same country !!!!!..... I have it connected to several prs of PARADIGM "MONITOR SERIES... FROM THE "ATOMS V3, MINI MONITORS V5, TITANS V5, AND cc-290 V5.......... A VERY NICE SOUNDING SURROUND SYSTEM....

BUT I GAVE UP ON SURROUND,... I AM WELL RETIRED FOR 10YRS AND THE COST OF KEEPING UP IS NO LONGER OF ANY JOY.... I AM A FORMER DEALER FROM LONG ISLAND. NEW YORK. WE CLOSED UP AFTER 25YRS... THE BOX STORES GOT INTO BED WITH THE ELITE NAMES AND JUST ERODED OUR FORMER LOCKED IN CLIENTS....
I SOLD. MY AUDIO GEAR COLLECTION OF 20+ YEARS... WHATS LEFT IS THE "MINT "BOX NEW" SERIES OF PARADIGM PREVIOUSLY STATED ABOVE... iF SOMEONE WANTS TO "PARTAKE" OF AN EXTREMELY GOOD INVESTMENT... i'M LISTENING..I. AM LOCATED 10 MINS OUTSIDE OF DENVER.... i WILL LOOK FOR THAT SCHEMATIC----- NO PROMISES... THOUGH ALL OF MY EQUIPMENT MANUALS ARE IN FILE CABINETS BY NAME , I DISCARD THEM....YA NVR NO!!!!
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Hi all and good day to you,

Not sure how to post here only reply.

I just purchased an AVR 4806 from an ebay store being sold for parts or repair because of an HDMI issue where the video was destorted with artifacts, they had an 800 # listed So i called with questions and after awhile the guy offered me a discount for $175.00 Shipped !! I was ecstatic to say the least I was guessing from his description that they had fed a 1080p source into it and me knowing that it is not capable of that resolution went ahead and purchased it anyway, As it turns out that was in fact the issue... or was it?,

However there is one issue i found that they neglected to tell me? where the front display goes off and stays off, I studied the Dimmer/Direct function thoroughly and decided to lightly tap on the display and low and behold it came on, Obviously a loose connection somewhere but the problem remains and i have to continually repeat the process when i power the unit up, It will usually stay on for most of the day or not long at all, Has anyone experianced this issue and was there a specific fix like a particuler cable/plug or part on the display board itself?.

Also my second question is has anyone done the CI upgrade?, I would like to do this and have contacted Denon support and after a few days their reply was "No Longer Available" which was no surprise to me but i was hoping they would offer a 3rd party solution, Does anyone know the upgrade HDMI board part # and does anyone have the firmware laying around or was the firmware a direct ethernet to reciever install?, The option to purchase an AVR-4806Ci would be an expensive alternative and would negate the killer deal i just got.

Thanks in advance and Any input would be much appreciated.

My setup includes... A Monster Power HTUPS-3700 battery backup/power conditioner, Audiosource Amp 300 for surrounds, Sony CDP-CX355 300 disc mega cd changer, Kenwood GE-1100 EQ for visual effects only, Sansui SR-5090 Turntable, LG 55lh90 55" LED panel, Infinity il60 fronts, il36c center, il120s sub and budget surround and surround back towers, My Pioneer VDP, Technics cassette player and VCR are close by because i ran out of shelf space in my 3 shelf smoked glass with integrated swivel TV mount.
I can't promise I have the wiring diagram..as I bought a Original boxed and packed 4806... in a warehouse Scratch and Dent sale ago out of a warehouse, about 8-9 years ago for about $5-600.00. Denon / Marantz had a service depot about 45 mins from my home.... I called them to fix a broken drop down door hinge, asked if they were doing the "CI" up conversion with all of the bells & whistles for about
they said 2 wks & $500-$600..... I jumped at it...... what they returned was an immaculate, "MINT" condition unit.... I have it sitting on a rack in my basement.... it is a magnificent sounding unit and in stereo.... the surround was quite good and quite satisfying... However, compared to my Regular system....(Thiel 3.7.. Bryston 7Bsst^ pair, Kimber 12TC....) not even in the same country !!!!!..... I have it connected to several prs of PARADIGM "MONITOR SERIES... FROM THE "ATOMS V3, MINI MONITORS V5, TITANS V5, AND cc-290 V5.......... A VERY NICE SOUNDING SURROUND SYSTEM....

BUT I GAVE UP ON SURROUND,... I AM WELL RETIRED FOR 10YRS AND THE COST OF KEEPING UP IS NO LONGER OF ANY JOY.... I AM A FORMER DEALER FROM LONG ISLAND. NEW YORK. WE CLOSED UP AFTER 25YRS... THE BOX STORES GOT INTO BED WITH THE ELITE NAMES AND JUST ERODED OUR FORMER LOCKED IN CLIENTS....
I SOLD. MY AUDIO GEAR COLLECTION OF 20+ YEARS... WHATS LEFT IS THE "MINT "BOX NEW" SERIES OF PARADIGM PREVIOUSLY STATED ABOVE... iF SOMEONE WANTS TO "PARTAKE" OF AN EXTREMELY GOOD INVESTMENT... i'M LISTENING..I. AM LOCATED 10 MINS OUTSIDE OF DENVER.... i WILL LOOK FOR THAT SCHEMATIC----- NO PROMISES... THOUGH ALL OF MY EQUIPMENT MANUALS ARE IN FILE CABINETS BY NAME , I DISCARD THEM....YA NVR NO!!!! OOPSSSS "NEVER" DISCARD THEM!!!!!
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I can't promise I have the wiring diagram..as I bought a Original boxed and packed 4806... in a warehouse Scratch and Dent sale ago out of a warehouse, about 8-9 years ago for about $5-600.00. Denon / Marantz had a service depot about 45 mins from my home.... I called them to fix a broken drop down door hinge, asked if they were doing the "CI" up conversion with all of the bells & whistles for about
they said 2 wks & $500-$600..... I jumped at it...... what they returned was an immaculate, "MINT" condition unit.... I have it sitting on a rack in my basement.... it is a magnificent sounding unit and in stereo.... the surround was quite good and quite satisfying... However, compared to my Regular system....(Thiel 3.7.. Bryston 7Bsst^ pair, Kimber 12TC....) not even in the same country !!!!!..... I have it connected to several prs of PARADIGM "MONITOR SERIES... FROM THE "ATOMS V3, MINI MONITORS V5, TITANS V5, AND cc-290 V5.......... A VERY NICE SOUNDING SURROUND SYSTEM....

BUT I GAVE UP ON SURROUND,... I AM WELL RETIRED FOR 10YRS AND THE COST OF KEEPING UP IS NO LONGER OF ANY JOY.... I AM A FORMER DEALER FROM LONG ISLAND. NEW YORK. WE CLOSED UP AFTER 25YRS... THE BOX STORES GOT INTO BED WITH THE ELITE NAMES AND JUST ERODED OUR FORMER LOCKED IN CLIENTS....
I SOLD. MY AUDIO GEAR COLLECTION OF 20+ YEARS... WHATS LEFT IS THE "MINT "BOX NEW" SERIES OF PARADIGM PREVIOUSLY STATED ABOVE... iF SOMEONE WANTS TO "PARTAKE" OF AN EXTREMELY GOOD INVESTMENT... i'M LISTENING..I. AM LOCATED 10 MINS OUTSIDE OF DENVER.... i WILL LOOK FOR THAT SCHEMATIC----- NO PROMISES... THOUGH ALL OF MY EQUIPMENT MANUALS ARE IN FILE CABINETS BY NAME , I DISCARD THEM....YA NVR NO!!!!

Hi, Thanks for your input and reply but i figured out the problem, It was cracked solder joints on the many pins (50 or so) behind the display board from years of heating and cooling and i was able to repair myself, In case someone try's to self repair as i did the display is held in by 4 or 5 screws and lots of ribbon type connectors (gently remove these) and will then easily be removed for repair I did find the service manual online with schematics and purchased the paperback version of the 4806ci 200 + pages from ebay for cheap, All is good now!!,

My setup is way overkill as i live in an apt complex so i personally would not be interested in the Paradigm speakers but hopefully someone here might be, Also of note... I found out that my unit did have the ci upgrade done but with the artifact issues through the HDMI to TV because my DVD player was upconverting standard def movies, I not thinkingly threw in a blu ray disc and the picture was perfect!!, But then it was hit or miss that i would still get the artifacts so i bypass HDMI altogether as i would rather have more control over my audio/video experience like listening to music and watching tv at the same time,

However i imagine that the many ribbon type connectors could be loose on the board or a reset which my local Denon repair center strongly advised i do not do because he said it could make things worse.... Well it says nothing about warning owners to not perform this factory reset operation rather offers it as a resolve to most issues, Denon claims they no longer have the upgraded software on hand but strangely enough the repair guy said he could get it from Denon for a high price if he did the work himself....So it would seem he needs me to pay his bills?!, However i have no internet capabilities for net radio and other updated software features I would be interested if someone has the upgraded software laying around?, I would pay a few $$ for it, Also looking for another pair of Infinity IL60's sand/tan color....., This will probably be the last receiver i need,

I just added the Audioengine B1 Bluetooth Music Receiver for just under $200 and now have a very useful modern feature that gets daily use I also added a large low db cooling fan on top of the receiver and this should last for decades if i'm lucky, They do not make them like they used to anymore.

I would be happy to hear from present or past owners of this magnificent piece of audio equipment for any update software or just exchange knowledge!,

Good evening to all fellow Audiofiles.
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I blew up my 4806 by trying to connect speaker wires while the unit was on (stupid). There was a flash and a pop. Now the unit will not come on, green light followed be rapid flashing red light. Do you think there is any market for this unit? I don't want to have it repaired as technology has moved on. Looking at an x3300W. Hope it compares to the 4806.
Although the 4806 is much better made, the X3300W uses the much more advanced Audyssey MultEQ XT32 which should result in much better audio quality.
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