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I was speaking with someone who said the Anthem AVM40 can be now be purchased. According to him, the AVM 40 processor is an upgrade to the Anthem AVM30 but has the HDMI connections. I went to Anthem's homepage but found no mention of the AVM40. Is it available? If so I wonder why Anthem has not listed it on their home page. Could someone out there give me information regarding this unit?

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Is that one for the roumor mill?
The only info are for the D2 yet.
Let them first do the D2 and then one will get the spin off from the statement line.

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No, I got this information from a dealer. He even gave me a retail price for the AVM40 and for an AVM50. Both, according to the dealer, have HDMI connections but that's all I know about the 2 units. He indicated the retail price for the AVM40 is $3599. I find it hard to believe because I haven't seen anything indicating that Anthem is even close to releasing the HDMI upgrade versions.

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I just got off the phone with a local dealer. He has prices on the new models:
AVM-40 $3700
AVM-50 $4700
D-2 $6700
All have HDMI switching. The AVM-50 adds "broadcast" quality video processing to the AVM-40 feature set. Still no info. on the Anthem web site.
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Still no info. on the Anthem web site.

Most manufactures will wait about 30days (more or less) before adding a new product to the web site to give the dealers time to get them in stock, setup, and ready to demo.
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I hope this is true, been waiting since last May. Its odd that there has been no press release about the AVM-40/50. The only one I have seen is the D2
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I would imagine the difference between the 40 and 50 is the Gennum processing, but this is all news to me. I haven't heard anything about this from Anthem.

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AVM-40 $3700
AVM-50 $4700
D-2 $6700

That pricing would be in line with what Anthem had talked about the last time contacted them. I know they were looking at bump somewhere in range of $1500-$2000 +/- for the units with the Gennum solution (D2 and AVM50 I would assume).
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Hey Kris. Are you planning on doing a review of one of these when they do come out?
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This is a really interesting development. I had heard the rumors about the 50 coming, but the 40 is unexpected. And now it makes one wonder. I've been holding out on an AVM 30 knowing that the upgrade was expected soon, but now I'm not sure which way I would go. HDMI switching is a must for me for forward compatibility. But not so sure about video processing. In a few years (assuming HDDVD or Blu Ray take off and there's more broadcast HD content) how much SD material would we all be watching?

Would the 40 be upgradable to a 50 by adding the video processing later?
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Anyone have an idea on the cost of an upgrade from a avm20v2 to the avm40 ?

My dealer went out of business.

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Anthem should be commended for giving us more choices & pricing the scaler upgrade very reasonably.

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If the new Anthem's are coming, what about the PVA 7 amp? Does it meet most folks requirements or does it need an upgraded version too?
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I just got off the phone with a local dealer. He has prices on the new models:
AVM-40 $3700
AVM-50 $4700
D-2 $6700
All have HDMI switching. The AVM-50 adds "broadcast" quality video processing to the AVM-40 feature set. Still no info. on the Anthem web site.

I wonder what the big difference (i.e. "broadcast quality") is between the AVM-40 and the AVM-50 is that justifies the $1000 bump in price? Will the AVM-50 be able to handle and process the blueray high definition DVD that will be out this summer?

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I am guessing that the difference between AVM40 & AVM50 is addition of the Gennum scaling chip & if you take into account how much the Gennum & Realta based video processors are priced at, $1000.00 for true HD scaling is a bargain.

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I believe you are correct about the price difference being due to the Gennum scaler.

My guess is the AVM-40 will be just an HDMI switch, with at THE MOST, transcoding for other types of video. No OSD over HD material (This is all purely just speculation of course) etc.

The Gennum is a first-rate scaler and as has been mentioned before, a real bargain at $1000. It will be able to accept, process/deinterlace/whatever and finally output nearly any resolution right up to 1080p, making it, along with the Realta chip, one of the most up to date scalers out there.

This, if it is true, is excellent news! I've been listening to all the rumours and waiting, hoping that the Gennum would be included in the new AVM model. For a while it was looking like it was just going to the D2. Here's hoping!
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Anyone hear about how much to upgrade an AVM20 to AVM50 specs?
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Anyone hear about how much to upgrade an AVM20 to AVM50 specs?


As far as I know, there has been NO official word from Anthem as to what upgrades will and won't even be possible, let alone how much they will cost.

The RUMOURED price, however, last time I heard was around $1500. I've also heard $2000. But that is for an upgrade to a D1 and possibly the AVM-30. If the upgrade is available for AVM-20s it is likely it will require the DSP upgrade to bring it up to AVM-30 specs, in addition to the video upgrade.

This, of course, is entirely speculation based on rumour, and is in NO WAY official.
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Hey Kris. Are you planning on doing a review of one of these when they do come out?

Not sure what my role will be in the whole thing, but I don't think so. I think Piero may do the review of the D1 upgrade and Brian may do the AVM 40/50 one.

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If the new Anthem's are coming, what about the PVA 7 amp? Does it meet most folks requirements or does it need an upgraded version too?

Amplifiers are completely different than SSPs. Just because an SSP is updated doesn't mean an amp needs to be. Being that solid state amplifier design hasn't changed in a really long time, I always find it funny that companies release new amps when they release new SSPs. They mainly do this to match the cosmetics among the line with very few tweaks. Besides, if the PVA 7 isn't cutting it there are three more lines above it in Anthem's catalog that should fill any hole. The MCA series is excellent and then you have the statement line after that.

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A question for Mr. Deering:

In response to why the Anthem processors do not have room correction circuits when many less expensive receivers do, the dealer responded that no room correction circuit could take into account differences in the hearing capabilities of individual listeners and were therefore not very useful. What are your views on this matter?
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According to an email from Nick at Anthem they have to determine if there is enough memory in the AVM20 to add the scaler. If there is the upgrade will cost 1700.00 U.S.
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A question for Mr. Deering:

In response to why the Anthem processors do not have room correction circuits when many less expensive receivers do, the dealer responded that no room correction circuit could take into account differences in the hearing capabilities of individual listeners and were therefore not very useful. What are your views on this matter?

I don't want to speaker for Kris but I think the type of room correction used in less expensive receivers can only provide correction in one location and may actually make the sound worse in other places in the room. Lexicon uses a different approach in the MC-12. They claim it smoothes the frequency response throughout the room.

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What is the current msrp for a avm30 ? $3000 us ?

Then if the AVM40 is $3700 us

Then going from a avm30 to a avm40 would be $700 ??

How about the AVM20v2 it listed $3500 us.
So maybe going from a AVM20v2 to a avm40 would be $200 us. ??

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I am in for the AVM40...

If anyone knows of an authorized Anthem dealer in So Cal that offer
a good discount, please PM me.

 

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This is a really interesting development. I had heard the rumors about the 50 coming, but the 40 is unexpected. And now it makes one wonder. I've been holding out on an AVM 30 knowing that the upgrade was expected soon, but now I'm not sure which way I would go. HDMI switching is a must for me for forward compatibility. But not so sure about video processing. In a few years (assuming HDDVD or Blu Ray take off and there's more broadcast HD content) how much SD material would we all be watching?

Would the 40 be upgradable to a 50 by adding the video processing later?

The other thing to consider is that Realta and Gennum chips will be pretty
inexpensive in large quantities in a year or so and many displays will probably
incorporate them.

 

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I am in for the AVM40...

If anyone knows of an authorized Anthem dealer in So Cal that offer
a good discount, please PM me.

Tony,

Check your PM.

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Check your PM.

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Is the HDMI input for both audio and video or only video like a lot of the processors coming out lately? If it does audio, what version of HDMI will it have?
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Is the HDMI input for both audio and video or only video like a lot of the processors coming out lately? If it does audio, what version of HDMI will it have?

Audio and Video, HDMI 1.1 compliant.
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