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aus's Avatar aus 04:33 PM 02-27-2007
Why do you guys think it'll cost $1,700 vs. the $2,000 for the D1 --> D2 upgrade?
I would think it'll cost at least the same amount since they'll be doing basically the same thing??
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Hunter67's Avatar Hunter67 09:17 PM 02-27-2007
I agree, I bet it is $2,000 because it's exactly the same upgrade as the D1 is getting.
ekb's Avatar ekb 09:25 PM 02-27-2007
But isn't $1700 the difference in MSRP between the 30 and the 50? Usually that is the upgrade cost. Probably $2000 is the difference between the D1 and D2.

Ed
Furkmyster's Avatar Furkmyster 09:01 AM 02-28-2007
D1 to D2 MSRP was $4999 to $6699, also a $1700 difference.
Rmassey's Avatar Rmassey 02:45 PM 02-28-2007
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Originally Posted by Furkmyster View Post

D1 to D2 MSRP was $4999 to $6699, also a $1700 difference.

Nice, so now early adopters are charged $300 more than those that buy in later. Nice move Anthem
alfredo mora's Avatar alfredo mora 07:44 PM 03-31-2007
It's been a while since this upgrade was announced, any news? Anthem does not give any dates yet.

thanks.
AnthemAVM's Avatar AnthemAVM 07:47 PM 03-31-2007
I sold the AVM30, and upgrades to a D2 for only $2300 bucks, something I couldn't do with the 30
jsil 01:48 PM 04-01-2007
I email Nick at Anthem and all he said was "Check the web site updates are coming." That was 2 months ago.
HofstraJet's Avatar HofstraJet 08:15 PM 06-10-2007
Still waiting....AVM 20 owner here.......UGH!!!!
Rmassey's Avatar Rmassey 08:16 PM 06-17-2007
I just went to a HT event last week and the local Anthem Rep from Denver was there. I took the opportunity to give him some feed back. first some praise of the AVM 30 and then my wish list....

Give us AVM owners the update
Give us a 30->40 option, if we don't want the scaler

He said they are small and distracted by Dev efforts on a 'Receiver' - WTF?..... Anthem leaves AVM owners in the dust to dev and market a new product.... give me a break.
Bill Mac's Avatar Bill Mac 02:13 PM 06-18-2007
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Originally Posted by Rmassey View Post

Give us AVM owners the update
Give us a 30->40 option, if we don't want the scaler

He said they are small and distracted by Dev efforts on a 'Receiver' - WTF?..... Anthem leaves AVM owners in the dust to dev and market a new product.... give me a break.

It looks like the new Integra 9.8 for me if the SQ is comparable to my AVM 30. At a list price of $1600.00 it will be $100.00 less than the upgrade alone!

Bill
HofstraJet's Avatar HofstraJet 02:29 PM 06-18-2007
Below is the reply I received today from Nick re: upgrading the AVM20:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick at SFI View Post

In response to your recent inquiry, we are currently backlogged on D1
upgrades (about 2 months) for the simple reason of supply and demand, and
once caught up will be able to start upgrades on AVM 20 and AVM 30 to bring
them to AVM 50 level.

Unfortunately there is no set date and we won't know how close we are until
the time comes - to be announced on our web site once available, similar to
this (note that upgrade cost for AVM 20 may be higher depending on
manufacture date and current version).

Looks like nothing has changed since last year.
stanger89's Avatar stanger89 02:47 PM 06-18-2007
So does anybody know what the upgrade will cost?

I love my 20, but it seems like I should really decide soon if I'm going to comit to it (and upgrade it) or throw in the towel, sell it, and get something else. Basically all the other options I'm looking at cost less than the upgrade, and really probably the same or less than I'd hope to sell the 20 for.
thorr's Avatar thorr 03:16 PM 06-18-2007
I finally gave up on waiting for it and ordered a Lumagen HDP scaler. I am just using an HD-DVD player and a Blu-Ray player that do the audio decoding to the analog outputs and using a cheap 5.1 switcher box from Walmart. It saves me money and I get it now. If Anthem ever gets this upgrade out, I may consider it, but at least now I don't have to keep waiting and waiting.
stanger89's Avatar stanger89 06:17 PM 06-20-2007
Yeah, I've pondered that, I'd like the scaler, but what's more important is the HDMI audio input. Though at the moment I have no need of either.
Bob Pariseau's Avatar Bob Pariseau 04:37 PM 06-27-2007
It's here!

http://www.anthemav.com/NewSitev2.0/.../Upgrades.html

AVM-30 to AVM-30HD ( = AMV-50) upgrades are now available for US$2000.
--Bob
Bob Pariseau's Avatar Bob Pariseau 04:50 PM 06-27-2007
The downloadable version of the AVM-50 manual has been updated. The new cover page indicates it is also for the AVM-30HD and AVM-20HD.

This means an AVM-20 to AVM-50 upgrade program is probably also about to begin.

http://www.anthemav.com/NewSitev2.0/...OwnersMan.html

--Bob
Rmassey's Avatar Rmassey 05:59 PM 06-27-2007
$2000 - WTF is up with that. I could sell my AVM 30 and buy a NEW AVM 50 for about the same money, where is my incentive to upgrade? Why is the AVM upgrade $300 more than the D1->D2 upgrade. They make us wait longer and pay more, nice. Looks like Anthem has priced itself out of my comfort zone.
Bob Pariseau's Avatar Bob Pariseau 06:27 PM 06-27-2007
The AVM-30 upgrade to an AVM-30HD, and the D1 upgrade to a D1-HD, both cost the same price, US$2000.

http://statement.anthemav.com/HTML/P...pgrade_HW.html

Since the video board is the same for the two of them, having the same pricing makes sense, I suppose. I can't speak to the value proposition of upgrading vs. selling and buying new.
--Bob
glennQNYC's Avatar glennQNYC 06:41 PM 06-27-2007
At least Anthem provides their owners an upgrade path...


glennQ
AnthemAVM's Avatar AnthemAVM 06:46 PM 06-27-2007
I am glad I sold my 30 and went to a d2, the small cost was worth it.
Rmassey's Avatar Rmassey 06:56 PM 06-27-2007
My mistake on the D1 upgrade cost. I thouhgt it was $1700. I guess I am thinking of the AVM/Dx MSRP difference of $1700.

Why is it that Anthem is charging more for an upgrade vs the difference in MSRP?

Re: sell AVM/ buy AVM 50
Current Agon used price of AVM + $2k = typical dealer discounted AVM 50 price. Why bother upgrading, buy a new 50 and get another 5 yr warranty. Now if Anthem had priced the upgrade at or below $1500, There would be good reason to keep your current AVM and do the upgrade. It's almost as if Anthem is discouraging customers to upgrade.
HofstraJet's Avatar HofstraJet 11:43 PM 06-27-2007
Says nothing of the AVM20...wonder if that will be available soon as wel.
Bob Pariseau's Avatar Bob Pariseau 11:47 PM 06-27-2007
The cover page on the manual (see link above) mentions both AVM-20HD and AVM-30HD. That's a pretty good sign that the AVM-20 to AVM-20HD (= AVM-50) upgrade program is not far off.
--Bob
HofstraJet's Avatar HofstraJet 11:59 PM 06-27-2007
Yeah, I saw that Bob. Thanks.

Will keep my fingers crossed it is available soon (though, I will look into selling the 20 and purchasing the 50 - if the OOP is almost the same, it sound like a better deal since you get a fresh warranty)
atdamico's Avatar atdamico 05:19 AM 06-28-2007
Anthem is a business and in business to make money. Think it through. Based off of what most of you have said here, shortly, Anthem is going to get a lot or orders for brand new AVM50's or D2's as most will opt to go that route rather than upgrade. Net to Anthem. increased revenues. Also, what happens to those used 20's and 30's? They go out into the used market making more new happy Anthem owners who will, at some time, probably purchase new Anthem gear, increasing revenues for Anthem. And the beat goes on. Anthem can say, with complete honesty, that they have an upgrade path for everyone which makes them look much better than, lets say, B&K, which makes for great marketing. And at the same time are generating substantial new revenues due to the price point of the upgrade, while generating a new generation of Anthem lovers. Pretty smart.
Rmassey's Avatar Rmassey 06:39 AM 06-28-2007
^^^^ other than the fact that Anthem has pissed me off by not offering a *** Cost Effective *** upgrade path. YMMV
atdamico's Avatar atdamico 07:08 AM 06-28-2007
Now that I think about it... Cost of my used, mint, AVM30-$1,800. Cost of the upgrade to the AVM50-$2,000. Net cost: $3,800.

Retail cost of new AVM50-$4,699

Net savings: $899 and all the hardware used to upgrade gets a full warranty.

Works for me although those that bought your AVM30's new are probably pissed.
LEVESQUE's Avatar LEVESQUE 08:05 AM 06-28-2007
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Originally Posted by Rmassey View Post

^^^^ other than the fact that Anthem has pissed me off by not offering a *** Cost Effective *** upgrade path. YMMV

I really don't understand why you're saying that. Really. The cheapest scaler using the Gennum VXP chip on the market is over 3000$ (Optoma). The Crystalio II is 4500$. So you get the same video processing powers and features for 1/2 the cost.

Halcro will start upgrading the crippled HDMI connection of the Halcro SSP100 for 1400$. That connection should have been working since the first day, and passing multi-ch audio over HDMI, but it's not... since over 1 year. The Anthem D2 and AVM50 are passing multi-ch audio over HDMI since the first they came out on the market. Halcro are charging 1400$ to fix something that should have been working since the first day! 1400$ to FIX something.

All the Halcro owners are all happy to pay 1400$ after paying 10000$ for a crippled HDMI 1.1 connection (only working with 2 ch...)... and here you get a fulll-fledged world class Gennum VXP scaler for 2000$ with fully working HDMI 1.1 connection, passing multi-ch audio without any problems and properly dealing with 1080p, and you're "pissed-off".

It's a REALLY cost effective upgrade to get Gennum VXP video processing of that caliber with fully working HDMI 1.1 connection (passing multi-ch audio AND properly dealing with 1080p60 and 1080p24). The Halcro HDMI 1.1 connection of the Halcro was not passing multi-ch audio (and still isn't), and the Lexicon MC-12HD HDMI 1.1 connection is NOT able to pass 1080p (for 2X the price of the D2 and AVM50).

You will get all this for 2000$. For over 10000$, the Halcro SSP-100 and Lexicon MC-12HD owners don't even have it...
Rmassey's Avatar Rmassey 06:50 PM 06-28-2007
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Originally Posted by atdamico View Post

Now that I think about it... Cost of my used, mint, AVM30-$1,800. Cost of the upgrade to the AVM50-$2,000. Net cost: $3,800.

Retail cost of new AVM50-$4,699

Net savings: $899 and all the hardware used to upgrade gets a full warranty.

Works for me although those that bought your AVM30's new are probably pissed.

You left out the typical dealer discount for new Anthem purchases, which range from 15-20%. Given that the price of a new AVM 50 is below $4K. where is the incentive for existing 30 owners to upgrade rather than sell and then buy new.
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