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I replaced my non-HDMI TV with a Panasonic 3D TV. From a PS3, I used HDMI directly to the TV and an optical cable to the 2807. I don't used HDMI on the 2807.

I was thinking of replacing the PS3 with a Blu ray player (like Oppo BDP-103) with dual HDMI output. If I configure the Oppo HDMI as Split A/V where HDMI 1 goes to the TV for video, and HDMI 2 goes to HDMI input on the Denon 2807 for audio (having a dummy video stream), do I still need to connect an HDMI cable from the 2807 HDMI out to the TV in order to get sound? Currently, I only use component connection from 2807 to TV for Menu Setup.

I want to use HDMI audio so I can get lossless High Definition audio from the blu ray.

I don't like to use analog connections from the Oppo to the ext. in of the 2807 if it disables Audyssey.

I really like the Denon 2807, and I don't intend to replace it soon.
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I replaced my non-HDMI TV with a Panasonic 3D TV. From a PS3, I used HDMI directly to the TV and an optical cable to the 2807. I don't used HDMI on the 2807.

I was thinking of replacing the PS3 with a Blu ray player (like Oppo BDP-103) with dual HDMI output. If I configure the Oppo HDMI as Split A/V where HDMI 1 goes to the TV for video, and HDMI 2 goes to HDMI input on the Denon 2807 for audio (having a dummy video stream), do I still need to connect an HDMI cable from the 2807 HDMI out to the TV in order to get sound? Currently, I only use component connection from 2807 to TV for Menu Setup.

I want to use HDMI audio so I can get lossless High Definition audio from the blu ray.

I don't like to use analog connections from the Oppo to the ext. in of the 2807 if it disables Audyssey.

I really like the Denon 2807, and I don't intend to replace it soon.
Generally no, as you're not passing any video to the TV from the AVR; however, in some instances the HDMI connection to the TV is required to complete the HDMI handshake and allow audio to play from the AVR. If this occurs, you can generally resolve it by connecting an HDMI switch/splitter or HDMI Detective to the AVR's HDMI monitor output (although may need to pass video through it to the TV one time so the TV's EDID information is passed to the splitter/switch or HDMI Detective).
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I want to use HDMI audio so I can get lossless High Definition audio from the blu ray.
Just remember you need to set your Oppo to send lossless multichannel PCM to the AVR-2807 because the receiver does not decode TrueHD and DTS-MA. The 2807 uses HDMI 1.2 so you cannot bitstream TrueHD and DTS-MA. I have that receiver at my father's house. A little short on HDMI inputs with only 2 but otherwise a solid and powerful receiver.

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Thanks jdsmoothie and afrogt for your reply.

My Panasonic TV and this receiver have this HDMI issue that freezes this receiver so connecting an HDMI from the 2807 to the TV might be problematic. Others have also reported this issue on this thread.

Should I consider using the Oppo BDP-103 7.1 analog outputs to the ext. in of the 2807. Would I get better sound even without Audyssey.

Or should I consider the Oppo BDP-105D instead and use the 7.1 analog output for its audiophile Sable DAC. Would the Oppo BDP-105D be overkill for this receiver.
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Thanks jdsmoothie and afrogt for your reply.

My Panasonic TV and this receiver have this HDMI issue that freezes this receiver so connecting an HDMI from the 2807 to the TV might be problematic. Others have also reported this issue on this thread.

Should I consider using the Oppo BDP-103 7.1 analog outputs to the ext. in of the 2807. Would I get better sound even without Audyssey.

Or should I consider the Oppo BDP-105D instead and use the 7.1 analog output for its audiophile Sable DAC. Would the Oppo BDP-105D be overkill for this receiver.
Using the EXT IN inputs, you disable Audyssey and would be using the DAC in the respective Oppo model. As most Oppo owners likely prefer using HDMI (for Audyssey), you would be better served upgrading to a more current AVR rather than going from the Oppo 103D --> 105D.
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As most Oppo owners likely prefer using HDMI (for Audyssey), you would be better served upgrading to a more current AVR rather than going from the Oppo 103D --> 105D.
Hmmm, maybe it's time to upgrade. I was thinking of the AVR-3300W, but then the closes match to the 2807 (I think) in terms of specs is the Marantz SR6010. I mainly use the 2807 for home theatre, and occasionally for music. I'm happy with the 2807 for home theatre, but 2 channel music could be better.

Do you think an Oppo (with Darbee) be a good complement to a new receiver and a worthy upgrade from PS3. Or should I get a less expensive consumer branded blu ray.
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Hmmm, maybe it's time to upgrade. I was thinking of the AVR-3300W, but then the closes match to the 2807 (I think) in terms of specs is the Marantz SR6010. I mainly use the 2807 for home theatre, and occasionally for music. I'm happy with the 2807 for home theatre, but 2 channel music could be better.

Do you think an Oppo (with Darbee) be a good complement to a new receiver and a worthy upgrade from PS3. Or should I get a less expensive consumer branded blu ray.
If you have a PS3 slim, I'd just keep it, otherwise, if a PS3 fat, then you'll want to upgrade to a newer model or the Oppo 103D.
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Hmmm, maybe it's time to upgrade. I was thinking of the AVR-3300W, but then the closes match to the 2807 (I think) in terms of specs is the Marantz SR6010.
Can anyone make a suggestion on which I should go for. I used it mainly for home theatre. I listen to some music occasionally.
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Can anyone make a suggestion on which I should go for. I used it mainly for home theatre. I listen to some music occasionally.
Both are sister models and use the much more advanced XT32 over just XT on your 2807. Marantz is better known for a better detailed music listening experience; however, is much more costly over the Denon. AVS no longer sells the SR6010, rather the newer SR6011 which will be able to use the new Audyssey phone app when released just as will the X3300W. Call for pricing and availability if interested.
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Thumbs down AUX L/R Input Not Playing In Stereo

Hello everyone. I have a question. I can't remember when this issue started. When I connect to play music from an iPod, phone or tablet via my RCA cable to 3.5mm the L/R aux input at the front of the receiver, I only get audio from the sub and right front speaker.

I watch TV in 7 channel stereo just fine and Blu-ray movies play perfectly fine through all speakers. Am I doing something wrong? Or, is my old AVR 2807 receiver starting to show it's age? I got it in 2007.

Any help/advice would be much appreciated!

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Hello everyone. I have a question. I can't remember when this issue started. When I connect to play music from an iPod, phone or tablet via my RCA cable to 3.5mm the L/R aux input at the front of the receiver, I only get audio from the sub and right front speaker.

I watch TV in 7 channel stereo just fine and Blu-ray movies play perfectly fine through all speakers. Am I doing something wrong? Or, is my old AVR 2807 receiver starting to show it's age? I got it in 2007.

Any help/advice would be much appreciated!

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The issue likely resides with the iPod, however, try connecting it to the rear RCA inputs on the 2807.
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Or maybe you have a bad RCA to 3.5mm cable....

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Or maybe you have a bad RCA to 3.5mm cable....
@JDS smoothie, @afrogt ,

Thanks for your responses. I have swapped out cables and got the same result. I also get the same result from connecting my phone, iPod and tablet.

I will try an RCA input at the back of the receiver.

Fingers crossed and thanks again!
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What happens when you swap sides (e.g. hook up the RCA cable but feed it backwards, right side going to left input and left side going to right input)? Does the audio still only come out of the right front speaker or does it swap over to the left front speaker?

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I need help please.

I have a Denon AVR 2807 and I can not seem to figure out how to hook up it via my HomeSpot NFC-Enabled Bluetooth Audio Receiver for Sound System. It has a 3.5 connection to the device and a Red./White auxilary input to the Denon AVR 2807. Because of what I read, there are no AUX inputs, so I thought it said to use like the DVR Red./White audio input cables. But.. I can't seem to figure out if a) that is the correct way to do it? or b) how to get to the DVR. Right now it says V AUX and is playing my TV via a optical sound input.

Any ideas? I was looking forward to playing my pandora through my speaker and I have literally been trying for 2 frigging hours to figure it out, my last Onkyo I could just plug it into the front of it. But the inputs on the front of the AVR 2807 are apparently not for the red/white cable that comes with the NFC bluetooth device.

Help please !
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I need help please.

I have a Denon AVR 2807 and I can not seem to figure out how to hook up it via my HomeSpot NFC-Enabled Bluetooth Audio Receiver for Sound System. It has a 3.5 connection to the device and a Red./White auxilary input to the Denon AVR 2807. Because of what I read, there are no AUX inputs, so I thought it said to use like the DVR Red./White audio input cables. But.. I can't seem to figure out if a) that is the correct way to do it? or b) how to get to the DVR. Right now it says V AUX and is playing my TV via a optical sound input.

Any ideas?
Hi Brian Tinsley, connect the Homespot to CD input. On the remote press input mode button few times to cycle over to analog.
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denon 2807 freeze after connect hdmi to tv

Hi all,

I am having a problem setting up the Denon avr 2807 to tv Vizio M-series.
I connected ps3 and cable box to Denon video in via Hdmi, AND hdmi video out to Tv.
i can get the picture and sound, but the Denon will be freeze. nothing works on the receiver after connected to TV. If I take the hdmi video out cable off, and turn it off and on the receiver again, it will works again with the receiver, but no picture because the hdmi video out is off.

Please help!!

Many thanks!!
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Hi all,

I am having a problem setting up the Denon avr 2807 to tv Vizio M-series.
I connected ps3 and cable box to Denon video in via Hdmi, AND hdmi video out to Tv.
i can get the picture and sound, but the Denon will be freeze. nothing works on the receiver after connected to TV. If I take the hdmi video out cable off, and turn it off and on the receiver again, it will works again with the receiver, but no picture because the hdmi video out is off.

Please help!!

Many thanks!!
This is most likely due to the 2807 being 11 years old with no HDCP capability. You may need to pass the source video directly to the TV with a separate cable for the source audio to the AVR.
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Just picked up at 2807 cheap for a secondary, music-only 2.1 system.

The bass management for pure direct, direct, and stereo is perplexing.

I have the fronts set to small, crossover set to 80Hz for fronts and LFE, and sub set to LFE.

In stereo mode, the sub has output. In pure direct and direct, the sub has no output.

If I switch the sub to LFE+Main, the sub has output in pure direct, direct and stereo. However, the manual says "LFE+Main: Low frequencies from speaker channels that have been set to “Large” are reproduced from those speakers as well as from the subwoofer(s)."

The speakers are still set to small when I set the sub to LFE+Main, so I do not understand why setting to LFE+Main causes the sub to have output. Also, not sure if the fronts are getting an 80Hz highpass and sub an 80 Hz lowpass in this mode.

I wonder if LFE+Main in direct and pure direct results in a full range signal to both the fronts and sub, with no bass management.

Any thoughts?

Also, this receiver runs pretty hot in stereo mode with fronts highpassed at 80Hz. This is surprising and a bit concerning.
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If I switch the sub to LFE+Main, the sub has output in pure direct, direct and stereo. However, the manual says "LFE+Main: Low frequencies from speaker channels that have been set to “Large” are reproduced from those speakers as well as from the subwoofer(s)."

The speakers are still set to small when I set the sub to LFE+Main, so I do not understand why setting to LFE+Main causes the sub to have output. Also, not sure if the fronts are getting an 80Hz highpass and sub an 80 Hz lowpass in this mode.
The reason is that Direct / Pure Direct modes bypass bass management (along with all other digital processing) so the small/large settings no longer apply. The speakers all get full range signals and the sub will ONLY make noise if there's an LFE (.1) channel in the soundtrack.

Setting LFE+MAIN engages "double bass" so the bass from the fronts is copied to the subwoofer, so that's the only way to get the sub to make noise if you are using a Direct mode.

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The reason is that Direct / Pure Direct modes bypass bass management (along with all other digital processing) so the small/large settings no longer apply. The speakers all get full range signals and the sub will ONLY make noise if there's an LFE (.1) channel in the soundtrack.

Setting LFE+MAIN engages "double bass" so the bass from the fronts is copied to the subwoofer, so that's the only way to get the sub to make noise if you are using a Direct mode.
Thanks, makes sense now.

I'll just run Stereo mode to maintain bass management.

I noticed that tone controls can be defeated in Stereo mode. I wonder if the EQ can be defeated too. I have all EQ bands set to "0", so perhaps an EQ defeat would not matter anyway.

Pretty nice AVR for a secondary 2.1 system, BTW. Seems to have plenty of power running a pair of NHT SB3 highpassed at 80 Hz. In general, I think used mid-level AVRs from 5-10 years years ago are great choices for budget 2.1 systems, since they can often be purchased for less than $100.

The NHT SB3 have below average sensitivity, and the AVR does get pretty hot on an open shelf. I might get an AC Infinity fan to pull air through the top, over the heat sink.
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