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Most likely nowhere near complete, but here's a listing of some audio equipment that can accept AC-3RF Dolby Digital LaserDisc input. I was searching around on ebay for a while on a processor/prepro/receiver with AC-3RF to replace my super old setup I bought 10 years ago. Even thou I already have multiple demodulators I still rather have one built in at least in this setup. I stumbled on a variety of models in the past months and decided to make a list. Also I added i/o listing to some of them as certain ones may be better in different setups. Maybe someone could find a use for it

oh if you buy something listed here and it don't have ac-3rf don't blame me! a reasonable effort is made to correct all mistakes.

Just about every model listed has 1 ac-3rf connector, additional ones will be noted.
If the AC-3RF connector is assignable as a coaxial digital connector that connector will not be listed as a coaxial in the i/o listing.

Legend
o = optical toslink
c = coaxial
5.1 = set of 6 analog cables
7.1 = set of 8 analog cables
db25 = 25 pin connector used for some AVR and AVP, but also with proper adapter converts to 6 or 8 analog cables.
1394 = firewire, ilink digital connector
in = input
out = output

the most common listing formats of this list
[manufacturer][model name/number](digital inputs, analog input, digital output, analog output)
[manufacturer][model name/number](digital inputs, digital output, analog input, analog output)

Demodulators
accepts AC-3RF input from LD and outputs via a optical toslink and or coax type into your sound system.

ada RFD-1 (1c out)
B&K DT1 (1c, 1o, 1c out)
EAD Smart Cable (demodulator on a coax cable)
JBL Synthesis SPD-RFD (1c or 1o in toggle switch, 1c out)
Kenwood DEM-999D (1c out)
Kenwood DEM-9991D (1c, 1o, 1c out)
Lexicon LDD-1 (1c, 1o, 1c out)
McIntosh RFD-2 (1c, 10, 1c out, 1o out, 1c out)
Meridian 519 (1c out, 1o out)
Nakamichi DE-1 (1c out)
Pioneer RFD-1 (1c, 1o, 1c out, 1o out)
Sony MOD-RF1 (1c out, 1o out)
Yamaha APD-1 (1c out, 1o out)
Yamaha APD-2 (1c out, 1o out)

Processor
accepts AC-3RF input from LD and may output via optical toslink and or coax type, but also capable of digital to analog multichannel output (six RCA cables). Which you input into your sound system.

ADCOM GDD-1 (2c, 1o, 5.1in, 5.1 out, db25 5.1 out)
Angstrom Director 200
Angstrom 195
Chiro C-5.1 (1o, 1c, db25 5.1 out)
Denon AVD-2000 (2c, 2o, 1o out, 5.1out, 5.1in)
Harman Kardon ADP-303 (1c, 1o, 5.1out, 5.1in)
JVVC AC-3 Decoder Prototype
Marantz DP-870 (1c, 1o, 5.1out, 5.1in)
McIntosh MAC-3 (4c, 4o, 4c out, 4o out, 5.1 out)
McIntosh MSD4 (4c, 4o, 5.1out, 2ch in)
Onkyo ED-901 (1c/1o, db25 5.1out)
Parasound P/DD 1500 (1c, 1o, db25 5.1out, 2ch)
Parasound P/DD 1550 (1c, 1o, db25 5.1out, 2ch)
Pioneer Elite SP-99D (1c, 1o, LineIn1 L/R, LineIn2 L/R/C/R for ProLogic, 5.1out=L/R/C mono x2/L/R/LFE mono x2)
Pioneer Elite SP-D07 (1c, 1o, LineIn1 L/R, LineIn2 L/R/C/R for ProLogic, 5.1out=L/R/C mono x2/L/R/LFE mono x2)
Pioneer SP-D07 (1c, 1o, LineIn1 L/R, LineIn2 L/R/C/R for ProLogic, 5.1out=L/R/C mono x2/L/R/LFE mono x2)
Rotel RDA 980 (2c, 5.1 out, db25 5.1in)
Sony SDP-EP9ES (1c, 3o, 1o out, 5.1out, 5.1in)
Sony SDP-EP90ES (same as above unit but with MPEG audio decoding for EU)
Sony SDP-E800 (1c, 3o, 1o out, 5.1 out)
Yamaha DDP-1 (1c, 1o, 5.1out)

Preamp
ada Cinema Refrence (2 input AC-3 RF switch)
Adcom GTP-740 (4c, 1o)
Adcom GTP-750 (4c, 1o)
Denon AVP-8000 (2c, 3o, 1o out)
Denon AVP-8000DTS (2c, 3o, 1o out)
Denon AVP-A1 (2c, 3o, 1o out, 5.1 in
Integra RDC-7 (5c, 3o, 1c out, 1o out)
Kenwood KC-Z1 (4o, 4o, 1c out, 1o out)
Krell Audio+Video Standard (2c, 2o, 1AES. 1c out, 1o, Analog Mch out RCA or XLR, with LFEx2)
Marantz AV-550 (1c, 1o)
Marantz AV9000 (2c, 2o, 1c out, 1o out)
Linn 5103 (5c, 1o, 5.1 out)
Sherwood Newcastle AVP-9080 (1c, 1o)
Sony TA-E9000ES (3c, 5o, 1o out)
Theta Casablanca (AUX Digital input card, 2 AC-3 RF inputs)
Theta Casablanca II (AUX Digital input card, 2 AC-3 RF inputs)
Theta Casablanca III (AUX Digital input card, 2 AC-3 RF inputs)

AV receiver/integrated amp
Denon AVC-A1 (1c, 3o, , 1o out, 5.1in)
Denon AVC-A1D (3c, 5o, 1o out)
Denon AVC-A1SE (3c, 6o, 2o out, 2x7.1in)
Denon AVC-A1SE upgrade (5c, 6o, 2o out, 2x7.1in)
Denon AVC-A1SR (5c, 6o, 2o out, 2x7.1in)
Denon AVC-A1SRA (5c, 6o, 2o out, 2x7.1in)
Denon AVC-A10SE (3c, 5o, 1o out)
Denon AVR-3200 (1c, 1o, 5.1in)
Denon AVR-3600 (1c, 1o)
Denon AVR-3600DTS (1c, 1o)
Denon AVR-5600 (1c, 3o, 1o out)
Denon AVR-5700 (3c, 5o, 1o out 7.1in)
Denon AVR-5800 (3c, 6o, 2o out, 2x7.1in)
Denon AVR-5800 upgrade (5c, 6o, 2o out, 2x7.1in)
Denon AVR-5803 (5c, 6o, 2o out, 2x7.1in)
Denon AVR-5803A (5c, 6o, 2o out, 2x7.1in)
Harman Kardon AVR-55 (1c, 1o)
Harman Kardon AVR-75 (1c, 1o)
Harman Kardon AVR-85 (1c, 1o)
Integra DTR-9.1 (5c, 3o, 1c, db25 7.1 in)
Kenwood KRV-990D
Marantz SR-14 (2c, 2o, 1c out, 1o out, 5.1 in)
Marantz SR-14EX (2c, 3o, 1c out, 1o out)
Marantz SR-14mkII (2c, 3o, 1c out, 1o out)
Marantz SR-18 (2c, 2o, 1o out, 1c out)
Marantz SR-580 (1c, 1o)
Marantz SR-680
Marantz SR-780 (1c, 1o)
Marantz SR-880 (1c, 1o, 5.1 out)
Marantz SR-880mkII (1c, 1o, 5.1 out)
NAD T770 (some)
Nakamichi IA-Tz (2o, 2c)
Onkyo TX-DS838 (1c, 1o)
Onkyo TX-DS939 (1c, 2o)
Onkyo TX-DS989 (5c, 3o, 1c out, 1o out, db25 7.1 in)
Onkyo TX-DS989v2 (5c, 3o, 1c out, 1o out, db25 7.1 in)
Pioneer SC-LX90
Pioneer SC-09TX (6 HDMI in, 1394, 4o, 4c, 7.1in, 2 HDMI out, 2o out, 2c out)
Pioneer VSA-AX10 (3c, 4o, 2o out, 7.1in)
Pioneer VSA-AX10Ai (3c, 3o, 2o out, 7.1in)
Pioneer VSA-AX10i (3c, 4o, 2o out, 7.1in)
Pioneer VSA-AX10i-N (3c, 4o, 2o out, 7.1in)
Pioneer VSA-AX5i (2c, 2o, 2o out, 7.1in)
Pioneer VSA-AX5i-N (2c, 2o, 2o out, 7.1in)
Pioneer VSA-AX5Ai-N (2c, 2o, 2o out, 7.1in)
Pioneer VSA-AX8 (2c, 3o, 7.1in)
Pioneer VSA-D10EX (2c, 3o)
Pioneer VSA-D10TX (2c, 2o, 5.1in)
Pioneer VSA-D2011-N (2c, 2o, 2o out, 7.1in)
Pioneer VSA-D7 (2c, 1o)
Pioneer VSA-D7EX (2c, 3o, 1o out, 7.1in)
Pioneer VSA-D8EX (2c, 3o, 2o out, 5.1in)
Pioneer VSA-D8TX (2c, 2o, 2o out, 5.1in)
Pioneer VSA-D9TX (2c, 1o)
Pioneer VSA-E06 (2c, 1o)
Pioneer VSA-E07 (2c, 2o, 1o out, 5.1in)
Pioneer VSA-E08 (2c, 3o, 2o out, 7.1in)
Pioneer VSX-05TX (2c, 1o)
Pioneer VSX-07TX
Pioneer VSX-09TX (2c, 1o)
Pioneer VSX-27TX (2c, 2o, 1o out)
Pioneer VSX-29TX (2c, 3o, 1o out, 5.1in)
Pioneer VSX-37TX (2c, 3o, 2o out, 5.1in)
Pioneer VSX-39TX (2c, 3o, 2o out, 5.1in)
Pioneer VSX-47TX (2c, 3o, 2o out, 7.1in)
Pioneer VSX-49TX (3c, 4o, 2o out)
Pioneer VSX-49TX upgrade (3c, 4o, 2o out)
Pioneer VSX-49TXi (3c, 4o, 2o out)
Pioneer VSX-59TXi (3c, 3o, 2o out)
Pioneer VSX-859RDS (2c, 3o, 2o out, 7.1 in)
Pioneer VSX-908RDS (2c, 2o, 5.1in)
Pioneer VSX-909
Pioneer VSX-909RDS (2c, 3o, 7.1in)
Pioneer VSX-99 (1c)
Pioneer VSX-D3S (1c)
Pioneer VSX-D606S
Pioneer VSX-D906S (2c, 1o)
Pioneer VSX-D99
Sherwood Newcastle R-925RDS (1c, 1o)
Sherwood Newcastle R-945 (1c, 1o)
Sherwood Newcastle R-945mkII (1c, 1o)
Sherwood Newcastle R-945RDS (1c, 1o)
Sony STR-DA80 ES (1c, 4o, 1o out)
Sony STR-DA90 ES (1c, 40, 1o out, 5.2 preout)
Sony STR-DE915 (2o, 2o out)
Sony STR-DE1015G
Teac AG-D9100 (1c, 1o)
Toshiba XB-1507 (1c, 1o)
Toshiba XB-2000 (1c, 1o)
Yamaha DSP-A1 (3c, 5o, 1o out, 5.1in)
Yamaha DSP-A2 (1c, 4o, 1o out, 5.1in)
Yamaha DSP-AZ1 (3c, 7o, 3o out, 5.1in)
Yamaha DSP-A3090 (1c, 5o, 1o out)
Yamaha DSP-Z9 (3c, 8o, 3o out)
Yamaha RX-V1 (3c, 7o, 1o out, 5.1in)
Yamaha RX-V1GL (3c, 7o, 1o out, 5.1in)
Yamaha RX-V1000 (2c, 4o, 2o out, 5.1in)(NOTE: RDS MODEL DOES NOT HAVE AC-3RF)
Yamaha RX-V3000 (not all models have AC-3RF)(2c, 5o, 2o out, 5.1in)(NOTE: RDS MODEL DOES NOT HAVE AC-3RF)
Yamaha RX-V3000GL (not all models have AC-3RF)(2c, 5o, 2o out, 5.1in)
Yamaha RX-Z1 (3c, 7o, 3o out, 5.1in)
Yamaha RX-Z9 (5c, 8o, 3o out, 7.1in)

Optional
Audionet MAPV2 (optional internal AC-3 Demod)
Classe SSP-25 Processor
Madrigal Proceed AVP Audio Video Preamp(optional internal AC-3 Demod)
Madrigal Proceed AVP2 Audio Video Preamp(optional internal AC-3 Demod)
Madrigal Proceed PDS Digital Surround Decoder(optional internal AC-3 Demod)
Meridian 861 PreAmp (RF00 card with 1 toslink, and 1 SPDIF)
Parasound RFD-1 demodulator (for Parasound AVC-2500 prepro)
Theta Casa Nova (optional RF demodulator)

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Thanks for the list! This list is priceless for LD player owners. Worthy of sticky status if we had LD forum.
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Add the Meridian 519 outboard demodulator. I owned it.

Quite a comprehensive list...

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Tony do you know if it is true, that for any device which has an AC3 RF Input and an optical or coaxial digital Output, that the DD signal from the RF input will be presented to the digital Outputs?

Also, you should add to your AV Receiver list:

Onkyo TX-DS838 (1c, 1o, 5.1out)

Thanks for your list!
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You can add the Parasound P/DD 1500 to your processor list. I would have to look, but I believe it has 2-toslink, one coax, one AC3-RF. 2 Analog Lt/Rt outs, and a DB-25 5.1 output. It was originally meant to mate with the P/SP 1500 THX Pre/pro, but you can get a DB25 to 6-RCA cable, or make your own.
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This is an excellent list.

Should definitely be a sticky post!

I wish there was a dedicated LD forum for those collectors that still play LDs. Im still amazed at the number of LDs that are not on DVD and probably will never be!!
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Alex you've been a member long enough I think. The DVD forum used to be the LD and DVD forum, before that LD.

I dont know the answer to your question Laserfan, other than demodulators, I've only owned processors/recievers with them and those did not have digital out.

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added some Parasound P/dd series, Integra, proceed, pioneeer VSX-0x series, Krell, Angstrom and the super old JWC dev decoder.
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I don't know how many of my LDs (I have like 400-500 of them) are AC3 but I was disappointed my earlier Pioneer Elite 55TXi did not have the RF port. I own the 59TXi now and after 10 years of owning my CLD-D704 LD player finally I have the AC3-RF connected.
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A quick look at the Pio website and the specs on the 59txi do not mention the RF input (that I could find anyway).

I can't afford that monster, and in fact have a 1015 coming-in this week--I must say I am very disappointed in Pioneer, that for all the LD players they sold, they seem to have left AC3 RF behind.
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Add the Onkyo TX-DS939 to that list also, as it has a AC-3 RF coaxial input.
In fact, I still have one of these, that I have not used in years.

But anyway, it was their flagship AVR in it's day. And it's definitely a strong performer in as far as how much power it has and how well it is built. Plus it was even ahead of it's time as far as receiver automation goes. As it even has a automatic speaker distance calibration setup routine, that works with the separate calibration microphone that was included with the receiver.

http://www.happymedium.com/onk939.htm

http://www.homecinemachoice.com/revi...yoTX-DS939.php
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Based on the manual the 59TXi has one... mgfred also mentions it.
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Tony, back when I got the C-72 & SP-99D in '95, shortly thereafter, my brother got the Elite VSX-99 (could have another letter or so in model #???)reciever. It has 1 AC-3 RF input and one co-axe DD in wired to the satelite input, no digital output....no PCM input period.

Also, Denon had an AV pre back in '95-96 that was about like the 5600 reciever that had the RF input. I can't remember the model # (I'm tempted to say that 8300 was in the model #)but it was right out for me because it was $3500 and came with a POS remote to boot. It was double what I paid for my Elite duo that had reasonable remotes for those days. Another AC-3 RF pre was the Act 3, which I think was made by Acurus...? I remember looking at them and not liking the ergonomics or remote.

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Sony DA-90 ESG

AC-3 RF connection (1998 model)

Isn't it time someone promoted quality as value?
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I remember the VSX-99 Rach! didn't they have a VSX-D99 as well? The others will take longer to research. I thought the act 3 was much newer? Maybe I was thinking about all the old upgrades for the act 3... I might post in the klipsch forum for more info.
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I remember the VSX-99 Rach! didn't they have a VSX-D99 as well? The others will take longer to research. I thought the act 3 was much newer? Maybe I was thinking about all the old upgrades for the act 3... I might post in the klipsch forum for more info.

Tony, it might be a VSX-99D...? They had a few more reg-lar Pio recievers with the RF input too. I can't remember the models. I have botrh of the 1995 Pioneer Mags, Elite & Reg-lar, with all the models. I can't find 'em just now.

The Act 3 was out in '98 I think, or early '99 for durn sure. I eye-balled it hard. I wanted DTS at that time and it had it. I finally settled on the Marantz AV9000 during the summer of '99. That's how I can date it. When I got the Marantz I finally got to hear my DTS LD's in actual DTS, not analog Pro-Logic!

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I'm not putting the Elite badge on them, making them models more international
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Based on the manual the 59TXi has one...

I didn't make my point about Pioneer very well--they not only have left-off AC3 RF inputs on new receivers (that can well "afford" them) but also don't even list the feature in their specs anymore! Good grief!

To find-out if a product has one these days, I guess you have to download all the manuals, or inspect every back panel! Are their marketing people so very young that they don't know there was a Golden Age of Laserdiscs!
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A quick look at the Pio website and the specs on the 59txi do not mention the RF input (that I could find anyway).

The VSX-59TXi does have a RF input and I have my CLD-D704 plugged into it.

Yes it is a monster, but well worth it! I got mine from a Magnolia for $2499, pretty good discount off of the $4000 list it has now.

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My current pre-amp the Sherwood Newcastle AVP-9080, also supports AC-3 RF. In addition to that input, it has 1 coax and 1 optical input.

I have an old Yahama DDP-1 in one of my closets somewhere and that was one of the first AC-3 processors available, though i see you already have that one in your list.
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Added Rotel RDA 980 processor and ada RF demod.
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added Pioneer VSA-AX10i and Teac AG-D9100.

Didn't Integra have a model similar to Onkyo's TX-DS989?
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Add the Pioneer VSA-E06 (An Euro Integrated amp).
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Not that many would care but the Denon AVD-2000 also has a fixed level analog stereo out which includes the output of the front L/R of the 5.1 analog in, which is very nice for stereo SACDs since it allows me to connect it up to my integrated stereo amp with no need to run through my A/V receiver's volume control/pre-amp section. Also its 5.1 input includes analog domain bass management/channel level balance, however it doesn't send LFE to large mains when you select no sub in the set up menu, like it properly does with a digital input.

And it also has an optical out that's not mentioned in the orginal post.

Oh, one other thing worth mentioning is it can defeat Dolby Digital Dialog Normalization, which is very rare.
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added australian Denon AVC-A10SE and edits of avd-2000. thanks slosh!
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added australian Denon AVC-A10SE and edits of avd-2000. thanks slosh!

Hello Tony,

You might also add the following Japanese A/V Amp models:

Pioneer VSA-D10EX
Pioneer VSA-D8EX

They were originally the first THX/Dolby Surround EX labelled Pioneer flagship A/V Amps back in 2000 (I still have the D8EX). The good surprise was that they were also DTS-ES ready but this was not mentionned anywhere. Data specs still mentions DolbyDigital RF here:

Pioneer Japan press release (04/'00)

Rgds,
Julien

http://LDDb.com/ - LaserDisc Database
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