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post #91 of 510 Old 04-28-2006, 08:14 AM
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Did you pay retails for a7200 and avp7 separately? Combo price from Audio Advisor is $1600 shipped!

I purchased both from Onecall.com at $749 each. I was going to go with Audio Advisor for the free shipping, but they must be in Michigan, because I was charged sales tax!

At Oncall, the A7200 was $815 shipped, and the AVP7 was $798 shipped. So, it worked out about the same anyway.

Oh, I see on ********** that Best Deal Cables is offering 50% off all of their cables through April 30th. I need some, so I'm going to check them out. Here's the link:
[url=http://www.bestdealcables.com]

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No, here's the link:

http://www.bestdealcables.com/

Hope this worked better!
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Upon further review, I think I'll go with:

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/index.htm

I've heard good things about them, and they don't cost an arm and a leg. Plus, I guess I'm sold on the Canare RCA connector technology.
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Try this one. I'll get this right one of these days.

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/index.htm
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A7200 users:

How do you have your amp situated...open rack or closed (but ventilated) unit? Does the amp run cool, especially if the latter?

I'm running a variety of amps and wouldn't mind consolidating...but the 7200 must run cool as I use a ventilated 2 door credenza. My frontstage amp is a Chiro 3 channel which runs as cool as a cucumber at 200W@6 Ohms. Could always install a fan system but would rather not.

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A7200 users:

How do you have your amp situated...open rack or closed (but ventilated) unit? Does the amp run cool, especially if the latter?

I'm running a variety of amps and wouldn't mind consolidating...but the 7200 must run cool as I use a ventilated 2 door credenza. My frontstage amp is a Chiro 3 channel which runs as cool as a cucumber at 200W@6 Ohms. Could always install a fan system but would rather not.

TIA

I have my A7200 in an open rack. I have listened to music for 1-2 hours at some very high volumes and have checked the top of the A7200, it was warm at best. I am waiting for FedEx to show up with the AVP7 as I type.

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Knock, knock.



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I can't get enough of that "delivery moment" when the box arrives...you open it....slowly....savoring it all...and unveil the wonder inside!
Enjoy the moment Bill!
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I just got my AVP7 at work a couple minutes ago. I'm excitied to get this baby home and hook her up tonight. I will put it head to head against the 990 over the next week or so. This box was much easier to handle than the A7200 or 7120 .

Still waiting Bill?

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I just got my AVP7 at work a couple minutes ago. I'm excitied to get this baby home and hook her up tonight.

Aren't you feeling ill?
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If I had more than an hour and 45 minutes of work left...I could be coming down with something. I will just try to tuff it out. I have to find some way to pay for all this stuff anyhow

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If I keep reading this damn thread, I'll be calling Audio Advisor, but I really wanted to try new speakers instead.
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Be strong Eric...or then again, a deal this good couldn't hurt

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If I keep reading this damn thread, I'll be calling Audio Advisor, but I really wanted to try new speakers instead.


I finally gave in and pulled the trigger. I had gotten the 7120 from AA about a month ago but while watching Spiderman in 5.1 it buzzed and stopped working. I returned it, but found that I missed it so much that I just went ahead and ordered the separates. Gotta love the budget creep....
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First of all this is my first post and I have to say that your forum is awesome. I picked up the avr7120 last week and it sounds very good to me but i am no audiophile. I wanna try to get the best sound i can out of this unit, so i was wondering how much of a differance there would be by using the pre-outs on my fronts and maybe my center. I have boston vr3 for fronts but my center is a crap onkyo wich I will be replacing soon. If a amp will make a nice improvement for sound I will consider it. And if you guys have any amp recomendations that would be great.
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First of all this is my first post and I have to say that your forum is awesome. I picked up the avr7120 last week and it sounds very good to me but i am no audiophile. I wanna try to get the best sound i can out of this unit, so i was wondering how much of a differance there would be by using the pre-outs on my fronts and maybe my center. I have boston vr3 for fronts but my center is a crap onkyo wich I will be replacing soon. If a amp will make a nice improvement for sound I will consider it. And if you guys have any amp recomendations that would be great.

Get a good matching center (another vr3 would be best) and treat your room.
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First of all this is my first post and I have to say that your forum is awesome. I picked up the avr7120 last week and it sounds very good to me but i am no audiophile. I wanna try to get the best sound i can out of this unit, so i was wondering how much of a differance there would be by using the pre-outs on my fronts and maybe my center. I have boston vr3 for fronts but my center is a crap onkyo wich I will be replacing soon. If a amp will make a nice improvement for sound I will consider it. And if you guys have any amp recomendations that would be great.

HomeTheaterMag rates AVR-7120 with VR3 combo very high!!
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Thanks for the fast replies. I do need a new center and I may have to get that vrmc but it is alot more than I wanted to spend. Then again you only live once
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They're pretty much the same seperately BTW.

I purchased the a7200 for $799. While they did charge shipping, AA must get one hell of a deal - it only came to about $15 for a 77lb item shipped in a substantial box.



I still haven't decided if I'm going to pull the trigger on the AVP7 or one of the receivers ... or look elsewhere.

Raistlin, I seriously believe time is running out Make sure you get the combo if budget allows. You get better value than the 7120. When I got my 7120, each of the APV7 and A7200 cost same as the 7120.
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Thanks for the fast replies. I do need a new center and I may have to get that vrmc but it is alot more than I wanted to spend. Then again you only live once

I would suggest you to hang out at AudioGon to get the disconntinued model VR12. It is cheaper, and the spec looks better than VRMC
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Raistlin, I seriously believe time is running out Make sure you get the combo if budget allows. You get better value than the 7120. When I got my 7120, each of the APV7 and A7200 cost same as the 7120.

I'm torn ...

For $200 more than the AVP7, I can get the 7120 - which has the advantage of being usable in a secondary room when I eventually upgrade my pre/pro (HDMI 1.3, etc).

Then again, for $100 less, I can also go with the 7100 and have the same advantage I mentioned above. Granted, I'll be missing out on some I/O - including the USB which would be nice to have.

Decisions ... Decisions ...
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I'm torn ...

For $200 more than the AVP7, I can get the 7120 - which has the advantage of being usable in a secondary room when I eventually upgrade my pre/pro (HDMI 1.3, etc).

Then again, for $100 less, I can also go with the 7100 and have the same advantage I mentioned above. Granted, I'll be missing out on some I/O - including the USB which would be nice to have.

Decisions ... Decisions ...



I wrestled with the same issue and ultimately decided to go with the AVP7 and A7200 because I figured down the line when I actually want to move it to second fiddle I can just buy a good 2-channel amp on closeout at that time. In that secondary room I'll probably just be listening in stereo anyway. The price difference will be close to a push and I'll get dedicated power.
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I'm not sure what you meant by "The price difference will be close to a push and I'll get dedicated power. "?

I already have dedicated power in the A7200.
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Sorry, I mean when I move the AVP7 to the second room, I can just buy an additional 2 ch. amp that that and use the 7200 with the new processor
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I'm torn ...

For $200 more than the AVP7, I can get the 7120 - which has the advantage of being usable in a secondary room when I eventually upgrade my pre/pro (HDMI 1.3, etc).

Then again, for $100 less, I can also go with the 7100 and have the same advantage I mentioned above. Granted, I'll be missing out on some I/O - including the USB which would be nice to have.

Decisions ... Decisions ...

better not letting this thing hovering in your mind and ruin your weekends
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First of all this is my first post and I have to say that your forum is awesome. I picked up the avr7120 last week and it sounds very good to me but i am no audiophile. I wanna try to get the best sound i can out of this unit, so i was wondering how much of a differance there would be by using the pre-outs on my fronts and maybe my center. I have boston vr3 for fronts but my center is a crap onkyo wich I will be replacing soon. If a amp will make a nice improvement for sound I will consider it. And if you guys have any amp recomendations that would be great.

Well, from what I hear, and I'm sure Doug917 and others can chime in, the 7120 is no slouch at all with its own amp! However, I think the A7200 amp that is also clearanced at $750-$800, would provide an increase in sound quality, and be able to fill a larger room w/ more SPLs than the 7120 amp. The A7200 is rated at about the same watts, but it is with "all channels driven", which is more difficult to achieve, and should greatly enhance the HT sound.
So it kinda depends on your room size and how loud you play movies/music (2-channel or 5-channel) etc...

First though, get a good center channel speaker...it is crucial for good HT. I'd recommend the rsc-200 from Onix, affectionately known as "Bigfoot" due to its size, because it has great reviews, almost a legendary status among av123 guys (me included!), and is only $600, or less if you call and work something out. Not sure how well it'll sound with your vr3s though, concerning tonality.
Anyway, good luck in your search.

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If I had more than an hour and 45 minutes of work left...I could be coming down with something. I will just try to tuff it out. I have to find some way to pay for all this stuff anyhow

Did ya open it yet?!
Course, you already have it's identical twin, at least exteriorly, in the 7120 so you know what it looks like.

How much money would someone have to give you for you to take it home tonight, but not open it, or hook it up and see how it sounds?

My cousin and I played those games as kids..."Would you jump off this roof (a really high one!) for $1,000? $5,000?

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I got the AVP7 hooked up right after work. I have not had a lot of time to listen to it, but could not discern a difference between it and the 7120 when used as a pre/pro only. I only spent about 15 minutes listening though. I will try to see if there is any sound quality difference with some serious listening later this weekend.

I have not used the internal amp of the 7120 yet...man I need more time to play with my toys!

I could go without hooking it up for a while, as long as I know it's there, but I had a few extra minutes tonight...so I went for it.

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I am torn between getting the Denon AVR-4306 or the Boston Acoustics Amp + pre-amp combo. The Denon receiver can be gotten on the web for about $1500. Cnet.com has gave the Denon receiver a great review (9.0 out of 10). Please help me make a discussion.
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I can't get enough of that "delivery moment" when the box arrives...you open it....slowly....savoring it all...and unveil the wonder inside!
Enjoy the moment Bill!

FedEx came about 12:30 but could not set-up right away. Finally got everything set-up including the Harmony remote. I had to program it as a Newcastle R-965.
I have to admit this is not an easy component to program. I had trouble with the AVP7s remote but finally figured it out. It would also help if the optical inputs were numbered (they might be, but I need glasses!). I did not have the optical inputs assigned properly so I had no sound (a lot of hair pulling and profanity)!

One thing I wish the AVP7 did is display volume level and a larger display of the surround format, but I can live without these features. There will be a learning curve for sure and tomorrow I will read through the manual in more detail.

As far as SQ I am very impressed for the limited listening I have done so far. A larger sound field and more activity from the surrounds. I ran the auto speaker set-up but would like to do it manually with my Rat Shack SPL meter (I assume that can be done).

I took the cover off and took some pictures, will post them if I figure out how to. By the complexity of the boards I will not be doing any modifications thats for sure. I am in the middle watching Aeon Flux pretty bizarre movie but the sound track is incredible. Will give more impressions when I do some more listening and tweaking. But the SQ as it is now is very good.

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