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Hi jeff, we went over this recently.

The D2v and Avm50v do sound a bit better than the D2 / Avm50, even via HDMI. Search this thread for "comparison chart" to find why. There is also the "nice to have" decoding of DTS HDMA and Dolby TrueHD in the v models. Yes your Oppo can do this too, and all models will accept PCM 5.1 via HDMI, but it's good to have the option of doing it both ways for compatibility reasons.

Also regarding the faceplate ears, the 50v does not have them and might be more in your budget.
So far I'm about 100 pages into this mega-thread. Any idea around what page or what date the comparison chart was posted on?
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So far I'm about 100 pages into this mega-thread. Any idea around what page or what date the comparison chart was posted on?

Is this what you're looking for?
https://www.anthemav.com/downloads/a...risonChart.pdf

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Thanks. I'm not sure if that is the chart that AVfile is referring too as lists the 50, 50V and D2V. It doesn't seem to list the D2, which I am trying to compare to the D2V for audio purposes only.
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Thanks. I'm not sure if that is the chart that AVfile is referring too as lists the 50, 50V and D2V. It doesn't seem to list the D2, which I am trying to compare to the D2V for audio purposes only.
I don't remember any comparison chart for them but do remember Bob Pariseau, who had both, saying that while he did not expect it, the D2v did sound slightly better then the D2.
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Yes, your assumptions are all correct. The ears can be removed, but you need to remove the top cover and IIRC, the front panel to get at the screws. I removed mine on a D2V and it's not difficult to do.
As with so many elements in the audio chain, sound quality differences between models is subjective and influenced by many factors, so I wouldn't stress about this. They will all give you very good quality sound.
Thank you very much! This is very helpful. Considering that the going used price for a D2 and a 50V are both $1200-1500, and the fact that I don't need video processing or switching, would you agree that the D2 would provide the best sound quality for the price?
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Since this is the greatest knowledgebase of Anthem/ARC setup/tweak knowledge...

I'm looking at getting a new screen, and I'm pondering microperf instead of woven. However I know microperfs generally require a bit of EQ up high to compensate for the screen. Is there any way to do that with an Anthem? I've actually got an MRX1120 now. ARC doesn't correct over 5kHz on the MRXs, and even on the AVMs it didn't allow you to boost treble IIRC.

Has anyone done this? Can you just boost the treble control? Or is that not accurate enough?
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Since this is the greatest knowledgebase of Anthem/ARC setup/tweak knowledge...

I'm looking at getting a new screen, and I'm pondering microperf instead of woven. However I know microperfs generally require a bit of EQ up high to compensate for the screen. Is there any way to do that with an Anthem? I've actually got an MRX1120 now. ARC doesn't correct over 5kHz on the MRXs, and even on the AVMs it didn't allow you to boost treble IIRC.

Has anyone done this? Can you just boost the treble control? Or is that not accurate enough?
Do an ARC Measurement pass and see what you've actually got up there. Depending on your speakers, you may not even need any compensation.

The Statement pre-pros (including the AVM 50v) let you raise the upper limit for ARC correction above 5kHz. You need to do that judiciously because treble measurements are directional and so you may not get good enough readings up there to want to "correct" them.

You can also adjust the Treble control to your taste.
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Thank you very much! This is very helpful. Considering that the going used price for a D2 and a 50V are both $1200-1500, and the fact that I don't need video processing or switching, would you agree that the D2 would provide the best sound quality for the price?
Personally, I would choose the 50V to take advantage of the additional connection flexibility offered. The D2 might have a superior analogue section....at least in technical terms. I haven't read anything that compares the older D2 with the newer 50V. Whether you would hear a significant difference in a blind , side by side test is all that really matters and my subjective opinion is...probably not. And different doesn't mean "better" in any case. Only you can decide if any differences heard are going to increase your enjoyment of the listening experience. If it's primarily for listening to music and you have young golden ears, an excellent room, and outstanding speakers, amps, etc, then I would look more closely at potential differences. Otherwise I believe either choice will provide excellent results.
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Thank you very much! This is very helpful. Considering that the going used price for a D2 and a 50V are both $1200-1500, and the fact that I don't need video processing or switching, would you agree that the D2 would provide the best sound quality for the price?
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Thanks. I'm not sure if that is the chart that AVfile is referring too as lists the 50, 50V and D2V. It doesn't seem to list the D2, which I am trying to compare to the D2V for audio purposes only.
That is the chart. You need to weigh the benefits of the better analog parts quality in the Statement series versus the better HDMI handling of the v-series. Are you using mainly HDMI or SPDIF digital sources? Any analog sources?

Print it out and highlight the differences between the 50 and 50v. The D2 will not have the additional features that the 50v has over the 50. Then highlight the differences between the 50v and D2v in a different color. That should give you the other delta.
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That is the chart. You need to weigh the benefits of the better analog parts quality in the Statement series versus the better HDMI handling of the v-series. Are you using mainly HDMI or SPDIF digital sources? Any analog sources?

Print it out and highlight the differences between the 50 and 50v. The D2 will not have the additional features that the 50v has over the 50. Then highlight the differences between the 50v and D2v in a different color. That should give you the other delta.
Thanks - that helps. For 2 channel listening, I use the analog outs in the Oppo as it has the upgraded Nuforce ouput board. I have no need for HDMI switching as I have enough inputs on my TV to accommodate my Oppo Bluray, Xfinity cable box, Logitech Squeezebox, and Apple TV. The cable, squeezebox, and Apple TV are feeding 5.1 audio to my current processor via SPDIF.

As I will not be using any of the video processing/switching capabilities of the processor, I want to limit my comparison to audio performance only. Based on the chart, here is what is making the D2 look more attractive than the 50V, at least for my application:

-Premium ADC's and DAC's
-Premium parts in analog audio section

What appears to be lacking in the D2 vs the 50V would be:

-DTS Master and Dolby TrueHD decoding in processor (Since my Oppo can decode and pass LPCM to the D2, this should be a non factor)
-ARC-1 standard (90% of the used models I have looked at include the ARC-1 kit, so again non factor)
-Larger lip synch range (hard to say if there would be much benefit here)

I am unsure if I am missing out on anything with these remaining options that I noted as missing in the D2 vs the 50V:

-Multi channel PCM input limited to 5.1 24bit/96khz vs 7.1 24bit/192khz. Not sure how this might come into play based on my application
-Dual core, dual processor audio DSP on the 50V. Again, not sure if this is pertinent, based on how I plan on connecting my components
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