Pioneer VSX84TXSI or VSX82TXSI - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
post #1 of 29 Old 09-28-2006, 05:23 PM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
metalsaber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Western, Pennsylvania
Posts: 3,546
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 48 Post(s)
Liked: 94
Lets say I get the 84 for $961 shipped and the 82 for $800 shipped.

Is the 84 worth an extra $160 for 1 more HDMI port and 10watts more power per speaker?

Both I believe have HDMI 1.2a inputs and pass through 1080p.

I will have at least my A2 coming soon. So that takes up 1 spot and thats the only thing that uses HDMI.

If I save one for HDTV in the future (given) thats 2 used up.

If I save $160 I could buy about 7 HD-DVDs. What say you?
metalsaber is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 29 Old 09-28-2006, 05:35 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Stereodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Detroit Metro Area
Posts: 9,931
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 511 Post(s)
Liked: 545
There are a few other differences...

4 HDMI vs. 3
iLink vs. not
PC USB connectivity vs. not
10 more watts
2nd optical digital output
remote for 2nd room
and a "Transformer Stabilizer"

Personally, I would buy the 84. Those extra features are worth it to me.
Stereodude is offline  
post #3 of 29 Old 09-28-2006, 05:41 PM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
metalsaber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Western, Pennsylvania
Posts: 3,546
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 48 Post(s)
Liked: 94
Well currently I only have 1 HDMI spoken for.

Yes 4 is always better than 3, but I'm not sure if I'll be needing 4. Just trying to do the math myself.

I don't have an iPod. Yes I know its criminal.

PC USB Connectivity. Sounds nice, but not a feature I currently have or probably need.

I currently only use my receiver for 1 room and probably only will. I would most likely use my old receiver for a 2nd room if needed.

and a "Transformer Stabilizer"? Not familiar with that. Care to explain?

I appreciate the response and those extras I was unaware of. Though It still is leaning in the direction of the 82. Price difference and I can use the saved money on quite a few HD-DVDs. The HDMI Ports on the 82 are 1.2a correct?
metalsaber is offline  
post #4 of 29 Old 09-28-2006, 05:46 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Stereodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Detroit Metro Area
Posts: 9,931
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 511 Post(s)
Liked: 545
Quote:
Originally Posted by metalsaber View Post

I don't have an iPod. Yes I know its criminal.

and a "Transformer Stabilizer"? Not familiar with that. Care to explain?

iLink isn't for an iPod. It's 1394a / Firewire. It's used in high end audio / DVD players to transmit audio (DVD-A / SACD / DTS / DD5.1 / etc ).

I have no idea what the "Transformer Stabilizer is. But, Pioneer indicates the 84 has one, and the 82 doesn't.
Stereodude is offline  
post #5 of 29 Old 09-28-2006, 06:02 PM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
metalsaber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Western, Pennsylvania
Posts: 3,546
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 48 Post(s)
Liked: 94
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post

iLink isn't for an iPod. It's 1394a / Firewire. It's used in high end audio / DVD players to transmit audio (DVD-A / SACD / DTS / DD5.1 / etc ).

I have no idea what the "Transformer Stabilizer is. But, Pioneer indicates the 84 has one, and the 82 doesn't.

My error, but still I don't use Firewire at all even though my PC has it.
metalsaber is offline  
post #6 of 29 Old 09-28-2006, 06:34 PM
AVS Special Member
 
tonygeno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Near Cape Cod
Posts: 5,941
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by metalsaber View Post

My error, but still I don't use Firewire at all even though my PC has it.

Then get the 82.

Tony

In search of the Holy Grail.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
tonygeno is offline  
post #7 of 29 Old 09-28-2006, 06:51 PM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
metalsaber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Western, Pennsylvania
Posts: 3,546
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 48 Post(s)
Liked: 94
Quote:
Originally Posted by tonygeno View Post

Then get the 82.

Thats the way I'm leaning. I just wanted to be sure there wasn't something extra that I might make me consider the 84 over the 82.
metalsaber is offline  
post #8 of 29 Old 09-28-2006, 07:00 PM
AVS Special Member
 
MSmith83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 8,615
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Liked: 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by metalsaber View Post

Thats the way I'm leaning. I just wanted to be sure there wasn't something extra that I might make me consider the 84 over the 82.

Well, 82 is a lower number than 84.
MSmith83 is offline  
post #9 of 29 Old 09-29-2006, 01:10 AM
AVS Special Member
 
dssturbo1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: USA South
Posts: 5,651
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
yeah that wins in golf.......

save the 160 bucks get the 82 and the extra hd dvds. you will never know the difference on the 10 extra watts power. you dont need ilink. you only need 1 hdmi for now so 2 to spare. you answered your questions. enjoy it.

HD HD HD I Need more HD, Yes I am a HD Addict :)
dssturbo1 is offline  
post #10 of 29 Old 09-29-2006, 04:41 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Stereodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Detroit Metro Area
Posts: 9,931
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 511 Post(s)
Liked: 545
I'm not exactly sure what you guys are thinking... I have my worries that 4 HDMI inputs aren't enough. Lets see here someone could have...

1) PC
2) HD-DVD player
3) Cable box
4) PS3

That leaves exactly 0 open ports
Stereodude is offline  
post #11 of 29 Old 09-29-2006, 05:41 AM
Senior Member
 
DReborn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 444
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
yes, someone "could" have all of those hooked up... =)

1. why would you have your pc hooked up via hdmi? just curious. to play what type of media when you would have a blu ray and an hd-dvd player as well?


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
DReborn is offline  
post #12 of 29 Old 09-29-2006, 06:52 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
metalsaber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Western, Pennsylvania
Posts: 3,546
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 48 Post(s)
Liked: 94
I can definately see 3 used up in the future.

HD-DVD,
Blu-Ray,
HDTV (of some sorts).

However, thats assuming there isn't some sort of consolidation of the HD Movie formats. If a consolidation happens, then I free up a port again.
metalsaber is offline  
post #13 of 29 Old 09-29-2006, 06:52 AM
Senior Member
 
shokhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: SoCal
Posts: 308
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I'd get the 84 if only because it has ilink and then upgrade to a player that has it also.

Touch every third person and you'll find stupid!

shokhead is offline  
post #14 of 29 Old 09-29-2006, 07:22 AM
Senior Member
 
DReborn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 444
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
what are the benefits on ilink?


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
DReborn is offline  
post #15 of 29 Old 09-29-2006, 07:41 AM
Senior Member
 
shokhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: SoCal
Posts: 308
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
A single cable for all audio. Something like 400Mbps.

Touch every third person and you'll find stupid!

shokhead is offline  
post #16 of 29 Old 09-29-2006, 08:30 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Stereodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Detroit Metro Area
Posts: 9,931
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 511 Post(s)
Liked: 545
Quote:
Originally Posted by DReborn View Post

what are the benefits on ilink?

iLink can transport DVD-A, SACD (DSD), PCM, Dolby Digital, DTS, CD audio digitally.

However, the advantages are basically negated by HDMI 1.2 which can transport all the same audio formats as iLink. DVD / Universal players with full HDMI 1.2 support will end up being cheaper than iLink equipped units also. Most of the newer lower end (sub $1k) DVD / universal players are dropping iLink.
Stereodude is offline  
post #17 of 29 Old 09-29-2006, 08:32 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Stereodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Detroit Metro Area
Posts: 9,931
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 511 Post(s)
Liked: 545
Quote:
Originally Posted by DReborn View Post

yes, someone "could" have all of those hooked up... =)

1. why would you have your pc hooked up via hdmi? just curious. to play what type of media when you would have a blu ray and an hd-dvd player as well?

My PC is a HTPC that records HDTV material from cable and OTA. It plays those back to the TV via DVI. It also plays back DVDs that are stored as ISO files on my server, as well as playing back WMV-HD DVDs, DivX and any other video files.
Stereodude is offline  
post #18 of 29 Old 09-29-2006, 09:04 AM
Senior Member
 
DReborn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 444
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
ah, well there you go. =) i have an htpc as well but getting it hooked up has been a chore. have a dvi-component adapter but can never get it working right. oh well. =) glad someone has their htpc and HDTV working happily together.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
DReborn is offline  
post #19 of 29 Old 09-30-2006, 03:13 PM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
metalsaber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Western, Pennsylvania
Posts: 3,546
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 48 Post(s)
Liked: 94
Well I picked up the VSX-82TXS. I got everything calibrated. It did a pretty good job. I had to change my Front and Center speakers to Small. I had to drop some individual levels on some speakers, but I got a consistant level from each speaker which I could not do with the Yamaha.

Once calibrated at 0, it was too loud for me, so I've dropped it down to -10 and it still pretty loud but enjoyable. It can sometimes reach up to 97db depending on the movie.

Let me say this has a cleaner sound than my Yamaha and that is saying alot.

Everytime I get a new receiver, it's a challenge to get everything setup and used to the remote. No exception here. It the first universal remote that actually works. It had a little problem with the Hitachi TV, but it has an extra feature called a "Learning" system that you can use to learn functions that don't work by default. The Learning feature worked 100% of the time to get commands that didn't come standard. Way to go Pioneer!!!!

I tested out, Star Wars Episode III, Underworld, Underworld:Evolution and Saving Private Ryan. The sound is incredible. My new SVS sub sounds even better than when I got it. I absolutely love the THX Select 2 Cinenma. It's killer.

If anyone is considering this model, I highly recommend it.

Now I just have to wait till I get my A2.
metalsaber is offline  
post #20 of 29 Old 09-30-2006, 03:27 PM
Senior Member
 
tigerkn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 260
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post

I have no idea what the "Transformer Stabilizer is. But, Pioneer indicates the 84 has one, and the 82 doesn't.

Transformer Stabilizer = It sound like a feature/function (whatever you want to call it) that stabilizing the current to enter the Receiver????... It sounds like it to me......... I think it work the same as a Monster Power center.... I could be wrong...

just trying.....
tigerkn is offline  
post #21 of 29 Old 10-17-2006, 07:44 PM
Newbie
 
ASuperman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I have my XBOX 360 setup VIA component and I get no picture out of my HDMI connected TV. I get video from my Media Center and my HD DVR the HD DVR is connected VIA Component and the Media Center through HDMI... I also have my Pioneer 5 disk changer hooked up VIA component. All are being output through HDMI to my JVC 70 inch DLP. I can hear the audio from the XBOX 360 however I have not been able to get the picture to come through.

Any Ideas?

Thanks in advance.
ASuperman is offline  
post #22 of 29 Old 10-18-2006, 05:52 AM
Senior Member
 
dponeill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Brook Park, Ohio
Posts: 326
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by tigerkn View Post

Transformer Stabilizer = It sound like a feature/function (whatever you want to call it) that stabilizing the current to enter the Receiver????... It sounds like it to me......... I think it work the same as a Monster Power center.... I could be wrong...

just trying.....

It's just the way the transformer is mounted in the chassis.

Dennis
dponeill is offline  
post #23 of 29 Old 10-18-2006, 07:18 AM
 
chuckken's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 847
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by ASuperman View Post

I have my XBOX 360 setup VIA component and I get no picture out of my HDMI connected TV. I get video from my Media Center and my HD DVR the HD DVR is connected VIA Component and the Media Center through HDMI... I also have my Pioneer 5 disk changer hooked up VIA component. All are being output through HDMI to my JVC 70 inch DLP. I can hear the audio from the XBOX 360 however I have not been able to get the picture to come through.

Any Ideas?

Thanks in advance.

If the HD DVR is working through Component, then try plugging the XBOX into the same input and see what happens, if it works, then you just didn't have your input selections dialed in right.
chuckken is offline  
post #24 of 29 Old 11-29-2006, 05:34 PM
Member
 
suresh29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: South Brunswick, NJ
Posts: 26
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
who ships 84 for $961 and 82 for $800 shipped? i head conflicting reports that the US waranty is void if it's not an"authorized" dealer...
suresh29 is offline  
post #25 of 29 Old 11-29-2006, 07:43 PM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
metalsaber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Western, Pennsylvania
Posts: 3,546
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 48 Post(s)
Liked: 94
Quote:
Originally Posted by suresh29 View Post

who ships 84 for $961 and 82 for $800 shipped? i head conflicting reports that the US waranty is void if it's not an"authorized" dealer...

I think you'd be hard pressed to find an authorized dealer that would sell them for that price unless they were just trying to get rid of them to make room for new lines.
metalsaber is offline  
post #26 of 29 Old 06-16-2007, 03:54 PM
Newbie
 
pnbwoman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 12
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by metalsaber View Post

Lets say I get the 84 for $961 shipped and the 82 for $800 shipped.

Is the 84 worth an extra $160 for 1 more HDMI port and 10watts more power per speaker?

Both I believe have HDMI 1.2a inputs and pass through 1080p.

I will have at least my A2 coming soon. So that takes up 1 spot and thats the only thing that uses HDMI.

If I save one for HDTV in the future (given) thats 2 used up.

If I save $160 I could buy about 7 HD-DVDs. What say you?

hey, can i ask you where you could the 84 for $961 shipped. i would like to get one
pnbwoman is offline  
post #27 of 29 Old 06-16-2007, 03:56 PM
Newbie
 
pnbwoman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 12
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
hey, has anyone out there knows about a good deal on the pioneer vsx-84 txsi.
pnbwoman is offline  
post #28 of 29 Old 06-17-2007, 10:12 AM
 
dan711's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: texas
Posts: 578
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by pnbwoman View Post

hey, has anyone out there knows about a good deal on the pioneer vsx-84 txsi.

you realize this thread has not been visited in about 7 months. Best thing to do is start a new thread with your questions or just do a search on this forum. Anyways, try here http://www.soundpros.com/index.cfm.
dan711 is offline  
post #29 of 29 Old 09-23-2007, 08:18 PM
Newbie
 
ScooterTD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 2
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I bought a VSX-84TXSi and cannot get any video output to work. I have a Sony Wega HD tube TV with component video inputs. I have this connected to the component video output of the receiver. Nothing displays -- not the menu items, not the iPod control, not the component video input from my DVR. I've tried various settings on the receiver, all to no avail. I've even tried the S-Video and composit video outputs using similar inputs. I've had video conversion on and off. I've set the resolution to 480p and 1080i. HELP!
ScooterTD is offline  
Reply Receivers, Amps, and Processors

User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off