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Great thread, lots of redundancy, I suggest everyone read the first few pages and re-read the first post.
Few comments, on 192khz, true no practical application in 6 channel audio, not sure why people are suggesting Blu-ray specs call for 192khz in 6 to 8 channels, it's a capability not a requirement. As far as true 192khz processing, even the most expensive pre/pro's do the mixing in multichannels@96khz and then upconvert. Whether you hear the difference or not depends on numerous factors, and it would help if you had above normal hearing. With that said, there are examples of excellent 2-channel stereo 192khz recordings that sound amazing. Hotel Califorina DVD-A is one example, far and few, but I personally prefer this 2 channel mix@192Khz as opposed to the multichannel mix.
As far as the PS3 goes, I've noticed with the Pioneer elite 74, it would still report channels being active with LPCM via HDMI that were not active in direct mode, however enabling 7.1 PLIIx matrixing clearly adds sound to these rear channels.
It's my understanding that with the PS3, the Pioneer elite 8x series is not reporting thru auto detect via HDMI that it supports 5.1/7.1 @176khz or 192Khz, but is reporting support for 5.1/7.1@96khz, is that correct?
On another note, for those wondering why the update with Pioneer is done at a service center, it's because it uses a proprietary interface for the DSP/HDMI/Firmware upgrade. If Pioneer has committed to correcting the LFE as some have reported, I expect that they will. I will look into confirming this, as I just parted with the 74 today in hopes to get 1080p support for video. (What would be ideal would be to split an HDMI signal from a player and send one to the receiver for LPCM audio, and one to the display for per input ISF video calibration..switching is overrated...anyone else though about doing this?)
And just to emphasize what others have already stated, selecting and HDMI receiver based on version #s is a BAD IDEA. My example, HDMI 1.1 has the capability to support 1080p video, yet the Pioneer Elite 7x series they choose to enable 1080i pass thru via HDMI (1.1). Which has left me with yet another reason to upgrade the receiver which was just being used as a Pre/Pro.
I find myself considering the Denon's now. I would be interested to hear if "Denon Link" and Pioneer's "iLink" are compatible. If I am not mistaken, they should both be firewire connections, so one should be able to pair an Pioneer iLink transport with a Denon Link receiver.