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post #1 of 12 Old 12-22-2006, 09:34 AM - Thread Starter
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I have just purchased the new Focal Chorus line speakers.

836V fronts
800CC center
807V surrounds

I am either looking at the Outlaw 990 and 7x200 amp

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The Marantz SR8001

Now the marantz has alot of video options options that Outlaw doesnt have, but this doesnt make or break the deal.

I am putting this system in a recreation room that is 17x42

50Music/50HT

Will the marantz be more musical than the Outlaw?
My main concern is SQ of music and where the HT falls it falls.

This forum has confused me(in a good way) over the last month while I have been searching.

I have decided that I want to spend no more than $3500 for a reciever or separates combo.

I am also purchasing a Marantz multi CD changer and a Toshiba HD DVD player

Opinions Please!!
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For a room that big the avr will not provide enough power I am afraid to say ,so the separates seem to be the way to go unless you get an avr with preouts and add a 200wpc amp so you can get the power and features you need...

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I own the SR7001 as a pre/pro only and found it to be even more musical than a Denon 4802. The video handling should probably be more important then you think it is right now no matter which brand you decide on.
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I agree with john on the marantz it has tons of features found only on high priced preamps,so with a good power amp you can have a hell of a system,.
I have a yamaha htr 5790 with a 5 channel amp and it delivers killer sound from my polk audio speakers...

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I should have clarified better..

The room is 17x42...but the HT area is 17x17 with the balnce of the room to the left side. Is it a good idea to use an expensive AVR as a pre? Is it better to just get the processor and amp instaed? Im confused...

John...Do you like the Marantz? I like a "warmer" sound..Overly detailed always makes me get fatigued quickly listening. I want something soother and smooth, but not lacking
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I would go with amp and check out Augiogon for a used propro as opposed to using an expensive AVR as a prepro
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I have a marantz 8400 in a room that size, it is more than powerful enough. I added a rotel 1075 and noticed little difference. marantz is better than most on their power ratings. I think for me to notice a big difference I would need to go with something like the gemstone. Don't put marantz in the same category as sony or yamaha when it comes to amp ratings. Get the 8001, and then let the next upgrade be a killer separate amp.
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You know... Here are my general feelings right now on the Marantz SR7001 as a pre / pro


Things I like:
Very musical, even brash horns in jazz in extended play are silky smooth and will not fatigue. I'm a jazz / jazz fusion fan and this is very important to me.
4 HDMI inputs that have a high quality feel when switching sources back and forth, bet I have seen even of the external switchers I tried.
Processes HDMI audio very well for the most part.
Excellent DACs, my redbook CD's genuinely seem to sound better on the Marantz then my old prized Denon 4802.
OSD works on all video outputs
The transcode from Component to HDMI seems top notch


Things I don't like:
The remote is not good, you have to remember the devices you have on their input labeling
Won't process 96/24 material, well when I feed it lossless 2 channel stereo from my Blu-ray player no matter what the display says it is 2 channel front L/R and sub only.
The de-intlerlacer to HDMI output was watchable but my projector was still better.


Things that the verdict is still out on:
480i transcode to 480i HDMI, in other words no de-interlacer, I still don't if this works or how well. I was waiting for my next LD screening to check it.
Audessey Auto EQ, I tried it, but I wanted to watch and listen to stuff, I did not like the results, so I took it off. I hope to try it again after this extended holiday weekend.

(I am thinking of doing a factory reset and starting over with it, now that I am more experienced with the unit)
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I auditioned a Marantz 8500 and a Rotel 1067 so much in a shop one day that they finally showed me how to work the switcher and left me alone. I swaped back and forth between the two for over 30 minutes. I left undecided, and ordered the Outlaw 990 with a 7125 amp. I have the front three channels passively biamped. Anyway, since sound quality was my number one concern, I kept the Outlaw. Ears vary, though.

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I auditioned a Marantz 8500 and a Rotel 1067 so much in a shop one day that they finally showed me how to work the switcher and left me alone. I swaped back and forth between the two for over 30 minutes. I left undecided, and ordered the Outlaw 990 with a 7125 amp. I have the front three channels passively biamped. Anyway, since sound quality was my number one concern, I kept the Outlaw. Ears vary, though.


Do you find the Outla "warm"?? I want to makesure I get some thing that I consider "musical" detailed but not overly detailed...


Anyone else compare these two?? Or the 8100 with another pre/pro set up
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Do you find the Outla "warm"?? I want to makesure I get some thing that I consider "musical" detailed but not overly detailed...


Anyone else compare these two?? Or the 8100 with another pre/pro set up

I run a Denon 3805 with the older model Outlaw 770 Amp 7x200, the sound is very neutral, which is to my licking, movies and music sound fantastic, no complaints here, and the Outlaw is build like a brick house, very solid.

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