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post #361 of 1319 Old 01-19-2008, 09:55 AM
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Are you powering a sub? if not, what is your speaker set up?

My sub has stand alone internal amp of 300 Watts. So I use the 5 channels for the speakers directly, no bridging or bi-amping. If it wasn't for WAF I would have added 2 more surrounds via the 805's speaker connection.
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Need Help with Rotel 1057 + B&W CM series speaker

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I recently purchased and setup my home theater system with the following:
Rotel 1057 AV receiver
B&W CM7s floor standing for front left and right
B&W CMC for center
B&W CM1 for surround left and right
B&W ASW 610 for sub

The system sounds amazing but as I have never used a home theater setup before I have a couple of questions to make sure that I have not setup the system incorrectly or if something needs to be referred to the manufacturer:
Q1. For HDTV through cable and for DVDs - I find the sound levels specially the dialogues in movies to be low. Invariably I find myself dialing up the volume to about 55 - 60 on the Rotel receiver scale
Q2. Similarly, when listening to music generated from my ipod through the system, I find myself increasing the volume level to low 50s to make it loud enough

I don't fully understand, what the "normal" levels on the volume scale (on the rotel receiver) ought to be but am concerned that maybe the unit is not producing sufficient power.
I also explored the speaker setup and have setup my front, center and surrounds to "low" so that all high frequency goes to the sub. I also played around with the individual speakers so that the sound is uniform - I had to dialup the center to 105% of the standard levels and similarly the fronts and surrounds to somewhere in the 102%-104% of the std levels. While this helped in marginally reducing the volume levels needed to generate audible levels of sound, I still feel that 55-62 for movies and 50-60 for music seem high.

Can anyone who has used the rotel 1057 and B&W CM series speakers or anyone else who is knowledgeable about this please advise if this is normal (given the room environment) or should I be talking to the Rotel folks to get the system checked up.

Additional background, I have my entertainment area in a somewhat open environment, walls to the right but open to the left. Dimensions of the room are roughly 18-20 ft wide, 17 feet long and about 13 feet ceilings.

Many thanks for your input in advance.
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This comes up a lot more in the Onkyo 605 thread, but I don't know what people's hangup is about the volume number on the front of the receiver. The number is totally arbritrary. Now, if you have one source that is systematically louder or softer than another, then that's another story, but also fixable. With that said, my Rotel 1056 is not that different from yours. Using Toslink input from my S3 Tivo, normal television listening is usually in the low 40's but really getting into the music I usually turn it up to the mid 50's. Movies in the mid 50's is not unusual. I currently have that setup in a small room (maybe 12 feet deep and 15 feet wide) with Kef XQ series speakers.

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This only makes sense if you link volume readout to dolby reference level. My 1056 with a five channel Martin Logan setup shows 82 at reference level. (75 db). I frequently listen to music and movies in the mid to upper 60s with this setup, but almost never higher.
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Does anyone know if Rotel intends to release a new receiver this year, one with up-to-date features comparable with Denon or the upcoming Sherwood Newcastle R-972?
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Need Help with Rotel 1057 + B&W CM series speaker

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I recently purchased and setup my home theater system with the following:
Rotel 1057 AV receiver
B&W CM7s floor standing for front left and right
B&W CMC for center
B&W CM1 for surround left and right
B&W ASW 610 for sub

The system sounds amazing but as I have never used a home theater setup before I have a couple of questions to make sure that I have not setup the system incorrectly or if something needs to be referred to the manufacturer:
Q1. For HDTV through cable and for DVDs - I find the sound levels specially the dialogues in movies to be low. Invariably I find myself dialing up the volume to about 55 - 60 on the Rotel receiver scale
Q2. Similarly, when listening to music generated from my ipod through the system, I find myself increasing the volume level to low 50s to make it loud enough

I don't fully understand, what the "normal" levels on the volume scale (on the rotel receiver) ought to be but am concerned that maybe the unit is not producing sufficient power.
I also explored the speaker setup and have setup my front, center and surrounds to "low" so that all high frequency goes to the sub. I also played around with the individual speakers so that the sound is uniform - I had to dialup the center to 105% of the standard levels and similarly the fronts and surrounds to somewhere in the 102%-104% of the std levels. While this helped in marginally reducing the volume levels needed to generate audible levels of sound, I still feel that 55-62 for movies and 50-60 for music seem high.

Can anyone who has used the rotel 1057 and B&W CM series speakers or anyone else who is knowledgeable about this please advise if this is normal (given the room environment) or should I be talking to the Rotel folks to get the system checked up.

Additional background, I have my entertainment area in a somewhat open environment, walls to the right but open to the left. Dimensions of the room are roughly 18-20 ft wide, 17 feet long and about 13 feet ceilings.

Many thanks for your input in advance.

You did do all your calibrations and settings like speakers and such right?I also have a 1056 and unless the speaker settings and such are different i'm a little lost in what you mean in setting your speakers to "low"?
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Need Help with Rotel 1057 + B&W CM series speaker

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I recently purchased and setup my home theater system with the following:
Rotel 1057 AV receiver
B&W CM7s floor standing for front left and right
B&W CMC for center
B&W CM1 for surround left and right
B&W ASW 610 for sub

The system sounds amazing but as I have never used a home theater setup before I have a couple of questions to make sure that I have not setup the system incorrectly or if something needs to be referred to the manufacturer:
Q1. For HDTV through cable and for DVDs - I find the sound levels specially the dialogues in movies to be low. Invariably I find myself dialing up the volume to about 55 - 60 on the Rotel receiver scale
Q2. Similarly, when listening to music generated from my ipod through the system, I find myself increasing the volume level to low 50s to make it loud enough

I don't fully understand, what the "normal" levels on the volume scale (on the rotel receiver) ought to be but am concerned that maybe the unit is not producing sufficient power.
I also explored the speaker setup and have setup my front, center and surrounds to "low" so that all high frequency goes to the sub. I also played around with the individual speakers so that the sound is uniform - I had to dialup the center to 105% of the standard levels and similarly the fronts and surrounds to somewhere in the 102%-104% of the std levels. While this helped in marginally reducing the volume levels needed to generate audible levels of sound, I still feel that 55-62 for movies and 50-60 for music seem high.

Can anyone who has used the rotel 1057 and B&W CM series speakers or anyone else who is knowledgeable about this please advise if this is normal (given the room environment) or should I be talking to the Rotel folks to get the system checked up.

Additional background, I have my entertainment area in a somewhat open environment, walls to the right but open to the left. Dimensions of the room are roughly 18-20 ft wide, 17 feet long and about 13 feet ceilings.

Many thanks for your input in advance.

Thats perfectly normal. The CMs have very low sensitivity compared to many other speakers. They require much more power in order to reach same loudness levels. Position of volume knob is pretty meaningless. You just want to make sure you cannot hear any clipping from the amplifier.
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Those levels are pretty low actually. I usually end up in the 70s to reach reference levels on serious movie watching. On casual TV/Movie watching I usually keep it at 60-65. My speakers are the B&W 600 S3 series with an RSX 1057.
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Those levels are pretty low actually. I usually end up in the 70s to reach reference levels on serious movie watching. On casual TV/Movie watching I usually keep it at 60-65. My speakers are the B&W 600 S3 series with an RSX 1057.

I used to have the 603s3's,still have the 1056 if your at 60-65 man your playing real loud i would assume.Or something is not right.
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Everything is right and sounds great To reach 80dB using test tones, I have to go into the 70s on volume level. 60 to 65 is a casual listening level.
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I used to have the 603s3's,still have the 1056 if your at 60-65 man your playing real loud i would assume.Or something is not right.

Actually, it depends on the room size and how far you sit from the speakers. At my dealers showroom, I needed to set the 1056 to 70 for cm1, 65 for 602s3. When I demoed at home, high 50's was more than enough for the 602s3.
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Has anyone heard something about a new Preamp with HDMI 1.3?
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Has anyone heard something about a new Preamp with HDMI 1.3?

Anyone ?
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Has anyone heard something about a new Preamp with HDMI 1.3?

It would be pretty optimistic to think that Rotel would have anything shipping like this in 2008. It hasn't been very long (like a few months) since they shipped the RSP-1069, which is HDMI 1.1 and does have software issues that need to be addressed. With these software issues addressed (like HDMI transcoding problems and black crush), this can be a very good product and you might not necessarily even need HDMI 1.3.

But what I'd REALLY like to see from Rotel is a replacement for the RSP-1098, if that will ever happen. But it almost seems like they'll abandon this product all together.
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I am debating on my next purchase 1) AVR either Integra 7.8 or Denon 3808 2) Go separate and purchase the Integra 9.8, but wanted to see if any Rotel owners have the 9.8 and if there are any suggestions on an amp to pair with the 9.8. I am only running 5.1 so the need for a full 7 channels is not needed at this point.

The store that I have been visiting game me literature on both Rotel and Anthem. Just trying to get some thoughts/feedback from some owners.
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any owners have any suggestions on amps if I go with the 9.8?
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any owners have any suggestions on amps if I go with the 9.8?

I use the RMB 1095 with my Onkyo 805, which is the lower version of 9.8 and sounds very clean at any volume.
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I need 3 of these for my home theater. I need an authorized dealer that can give me a great deal. http://www.rotel.com/NA/products/Pro...tails.htm?Id=8

Panasonic TC-P50ST60 plasma HD television, Onkyo TX-SR805 and PIONEER ELITE VSX-47TX receivers, Klipsch RB-75(2 pair) and RB-61 bookshelf speakers, Klipsch RSW-10, RSW-12(2), Velodyne HGS-12, HGS-18 subwoofers, OPPO BDP-103, PS3 80G, PIONEER DV-525 dvd player, Klipsch RS-42 surrounds, Klipsch RC-52 center channel
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I just made the jump into the B&W/Rotel game, partially. Yesterday I brought home Rosenut CM1's and matching CMC. I currently have an Onkyo 705 receiver, but Rotel equipment is in my near future, and is the reason for this post. The 705 sounds great for TV and Blu-ray. However, I am a MUCH more critical listener for 2-channel CDs. An RCD-1072 is definitely being added to this equation, so keep that in mind. I am debating running everything through an RSX-1058, OR keeping the Onkyo for movies and TV, and using the front channel pre-outs of the Onkyo to an input on an RX-1052 stereo receiver so it can power the fronts during movies and HT. The RCD-1072 would then be connected via analog to the RX-1052, so 2-channel CDs will have the Onkyo (and the lesser sound quality that comes with it) out of the equation completely. I would use the RX-1052 to pay CDs and have 100% pure Rotel sound out of the CM1s for CD listening. Would running everything through an RSX-1058 receiver sacrifice the CD sound quality too much in exchange for having movies and TV sound better? Would this setup even work at all? Thanks in advance for your input!
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The RSX-1058 has an Analog Bypass mode that will bypass all delay, bass management, and d/a conversion. I use it and it sounds great with my B&W speakers. The only thing the RX-1052 would give you is slightly more power. But the 1058 will power the CM1s with no problem at all. I use a 1057 in a similar setup with great results. The 1058 adds HDMI Audio and video scaling which I won't use anyway.

Others may chime in, but I'd consider the following:

RCD-1072 - Use the analog outs on this to the CD input on the 1058 and set the "bypass mode" and "analog" input in the setup menus (going off memory here). This way if you do play HDCD you get the advantage of the DAC in the 1072. You can try the digital out and use the 1058 do decode, you be the judge of what sounds better.

Blu-Ray - Use the 5.1 outs on this unit to the multi-input on the 1058. I believe you can do bass management on this input, but it also has a bypass mode. You MAY be able to get the HD Audio decoded on the 1058 over HDMI, not sure about that though.

DVD - Just connect to TOSLINK or Coaxial and set it up in the menus.

TV - You can run your digital out of your TV to the 1058 for DD audio on OTA broadcasts

I think this unit has 7 or 8 inputs, and can do 7.1 However it only has a 5 channel amp. If you want to do 7, you get a 2ch amp, and setup the front pre-outs to that amp, then the 5 channels in the receiver power everything else.

So in my opinion not sure why you'd keep the Onkyo or get the RX1052. I do not think the RX1052 can act as an "amp" so you'd effectively have 2 volume controls; 1 for the fronts and 1 for everything else. I guess it could work but just seems overly complicated.

I think the 1058 will drive your "plain unprocessed" audio fine. It will also do great as the AV receiver. Like I said, I've used a 1057 for a while now in a very similar way and it's a great receiver. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles of the Onkyo, but you decide if you NEED them.
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Does anyone know how many watts the 1075 puts out at 6ohms. Looking to power Monitor Audio RS8's.
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Does anyone know how many watts the 1075 puts out at 6ohms. Looking to power Monitor Audio RS8's.

Most likely between 120 and 200 watts. Should be enough unless your room is pretty huge.
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Hoping to get an opinion here.Thinking of selling my rsx1056 and move to marantz sr7002 or 8002.Rotel is too far back and with no new rec coming out for new formats.Even if they did it would probably be way out there like the 1058 whuch is overpriced for what you get being behind and all.Has anyone done this move.I'm really considering to to to the marantz even though i have enjoyed my rotel.Marantz more power more everything and great sound to boot.Anyone with opinions would really like to hear it.Just for info the 7002 would run me 980.00 the 8002 1400.00.Help me get over the fence.what would you do?
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Hoping to get an opinion here.Thinking of selling my rsx1056 and move to marantz sr7002 or 8002.Rotel is too far back and with no new rec coming out for new formats.Even if they did it would probably be way out there like the 1058 whuch is overpriced for what you get being behind and all.Has anyone done this move.I'm really considering to to to the marantz even though i have enjoyed my rotel.Marantz more power more everything and great sound to boot.Anyone with opinions would really like to hear it.Just for info the 7002 would run me 980.00 the 8002 1400.00.Help me get over the fence.what would you do?

If you are going receiver only, I would opt for the SR8002, especially for such a good price.
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If you are going receiver only, I would opt for the SR8002, especially for such a good price.

Yes, receiver only is what i would get.
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I just received a newsletter from Rotel stating that they will not be replacing the RSP-1098 pre/pro yet, but will start shipping out a new revision with 3x1 HDMI video switching (pass-through only). I wonder what's holding them back from offering scaling like they do on the RSP-1069.... Even still, it makes zero sense to even buy an RSP-1098 unless you really want the video display.
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I just received a newsletter from Rotel stating that they will not be replacing the RSP-1098 pre/pro yet, but will start shipping out a new revision with 3x1 HDMI video switching (pass-through only).

Did they say if they would upgrade the DSP from the Cirrus CS49400 to the CS49700 by chance, which will support the HBR decoders?

Not supporting video scaling is a benefit to some of us with separate video chains, but its weird to launch a HDMI switching pre/pro without the HBR decoders in this market or at least 8ch LPCM. If they did the DSP upgrade it would give Rotel an answer in the HBR supporting market.
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Any word on forthcoming 200w per channel class D amps? Basically a 200w version of the 1085?
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