Originally Posted by tocaje
Chris, if Audyssey is 'balancing' the sub to the rest of the system, would it matter which way you turned the sub's volume control?
For the above example, turning the volume control down 1/4 way might give a sub trim as 0 db or turning it up 1/4 might give a reading of -5.0 db. But does it matter as long as the trims are within Audyssey's allowable parameters (I think I read here that 12 or 15db is what Audyssey allows; but maybe that's just for the other speakers and not the sub.)
Anyway, my first run gave a sub value of +6.0 db, I turned sub's physical volume control up and next run was +3.5db. I turned volume up and next run was +.5db.
In all cases I had the exact same amount of bass and it was too earth-shaking. My Denon 1909 is set to 'LFE' only. I love what Audyssey has done for my listening environment (I've never had such an enveloping soundfield and yet detailed) BUT finally ended up just turning my sub volume control down and I'm perfectly happy.
(I might add that when I first started reading this thread and people were reporting not enough bass that I was leery of buying an AVR with Audyssey. But I decided whether Multeq worked or not, Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume were the way to go. I'm glad I did...everything is fantastic but just surprised to find I had too much bass and I do love bass, just not the amount I was getting.)
So I re-ran Auto Setup on my Denon 1909. At first I turned the SW volume knob to the 1/4 position and after running through setup, it came up w/ the SW trim at +12.0 (vs. -2.5 at 12:00 before). That seemed way too high to me so I re-ran it again with the volume knob kind of in between the two previous positions. This time the SW came back at +1.0 which seemed more reasonable.
Here are all of the levels:
FL: +6.0 (was +5.5)
FR: +5.5 (was +5.0)
C: +7.0 (was +8.0)
SW: +1.0 (was -2.5)
SL: +5.0 (was +5.0)
SR: +3.5 (was +3.0)
Distances were virtually identical in both cases.
Crossovers for fronts and center still at 150Hz and surrounds at 110Hz (vs. 120Hz before)
Bass still seemed a little "boomy" w/ Dynamic Volume (Evening) turned on for Cable so I lowered the SW trim to -4.0 (from +1.0) - seems to sound a little better to me. For my other sources I am going to leave it as is.
One neat thing I noticed on the Denon, as soon as I tweaked any of the levels off of the Auto Setup levels, the border around the "Audyssey MultEQ" indicator on the display went away. As soon I as tweaked the SW back to +1.0 it came back. So I guess that means MultEq is working, just not 100% the way it wants to?
Will have to spend some time w/ it to see if I like the sound.
One random question? If I go into the Denon setup and say re-adjust the distances, crossovers and channel levels to exactly the way they were before, does it put the system exactly the way it was before? In other words are there any behind the scenes settings that Audyssey performs that you can't tweak? Just curious.