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Actually, that graph is not a good one for comparing XT and XT32...
It is the average of 8 positions for each variant and that is why it looks smooth. A better one would be comparing the same single position in 1/24 or unsmoothed with before/after XT/after XT32 to better examplify the differences. That is, if Jerry still has those in his vault.
I was just going to make the post to ask same question. I recently moved my speakers to another location and when took C+Sub reading, got some nasty dips in mid-range (100-300). I did move speakers 3 feet back and forth but results were not good. Then thought of X-32 since it is supposed to respolve (apply filters) more toward mid-range. So wanted to see what difference does X-32 make as compared to XT. I'd be nice to see some Freq/Impulse graphs that shows X-32 doing its magic.
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Question Should I use Audyessy

We watch television, movies and listen to music in our living room. Our AV equipment is setup in our living room. This room is open concept meaning there is not solid wall separating it from the dining room on the west end and no solid wall separating 50% it from a small library on the south side. An open stair way also occupies 25% of the south wall. So there is actually only 25% of actual wall on the south side of the living room. Additional there are large floor to ceiling windows in the room. Two on the north wall and one the east wall. There is also a fireplace in between the two windows on the north wall.

Given the complicated design of the living room I question the benefit of running Audyessy on my Denon AVR. Speaker placement is literally a nightmare.

So my question is should I run Audyessy?

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We watch television, movies and listen to music in our living room. Our AV equipment is setup in our living room. This room is open concept meaning there is not solid wall separating it from the dining room on the west end and no solid wall separating 50% it from a small library on the south side. An open stair way also occupies 25% of the south wall. So there is actually only 25% of actual wall on the south side of the living room. Additional there are large floor to ceiling windows in the room. Two on the north wall and one the east wall. There is also a fireplace in between the two windows on the north wall.

Given the complicated design of the living room I question the benefit of running Audyessy on my Denon AVR. Speaker placement is literally a nightmare.

So my question is should I run Audyessy?
Yes, why not?
Our living room is open into a dining area/kitchen on one side and hallway into two bedrooms on the other side and kitchen is also connected to the hallway.
Not a good layout for audio but Audyssey works magic here.
Just remember to have the doors in the house/apartment as they usually are (open or shut) when you watching movies as when you are doing the calibration.
So, why not? If you don't like it afterwards, it is easy to turn Audyssey off.
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Thanks rickardl. Quess I thought we were the only ones watching and listening in a room never designed for AV. 😜

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Thanks. Quess I thought we were the only ones watching and listening in a room never designed for AV. 😜

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I was just going to make the post to ask same question. I recently moved my speakers to another location and when took C+Sub reading, got some nasty dips in mid-range (100-300). I did move speakers 3 feet back and forth but results were not good. Then thought of X-32 since it is supposed to respolve (apply filters) more toward mid-range. So wanted to see what difference does X-32 make as compared to XT. I'd be nice to see some Freq/Impulse graphs that shows X-32 doing its magic.
A lengthy FAQ article has been written on this topic, and Keith has kindly provided a link. I am not sure what more evidence you would need. Any graphs that I might be able to provide show a calibration in a heavily treated listening room. Any calibration produces better results if you go to the effort to identify and resolve issues ahead of time. If you are relying on room correction to magically smooth over basic room audio issues, you are likely to be disappointed, whether you use XT or XT32.
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A lengthy FAQ article has been written on this topic, and Keith has kindly provided a link. I am not sure what more evidence you would need. Any graphs that I might be able to provide show a calibration in a heavily treated listening room. Any calibration produces better results if you go to the effort to identify and resolve issues ahead of time. If you are relying on room correction to magically smooth over basic room audio issues, you are likely to be disappointed, whether you use XT or XT32.
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A lengthy FAQ article has been written on this topic, and Keith has kindly provided a link. I am not sure what more evidence you would need.
I read that FAQ. It mostly points out how X-32 focuses more on Mid-Range vs higher ranger that XT does.

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Any graphs that I might be able to provide show a calibration in a heavily treated listening room
Yes. Your graph won't be a good example since you already have a good input to start with .

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Any calibration produces better results if you go to the effort to identify and resolve issues ahead of time. If you are relying on room correction to magically smooth over basic room audio issues, you are likely to be disappointed, whether you use XT or XT32
My idea isn't to have room correction magically fix the issues. its more towards how much room correction can help me with my current issue. All room acoustical problem can be solved by treating room. In that case, we won't need room correction besides delay and Bass management. But not all of us have the room treatment working for us as its in your case. We have more peaks and dips. Therefore we need a system that can help us in that matters. X32 is one variety. Then there is Dirac and then there is ARC among others.

The reason I asked to see graphs was to see how much of a correction X-32 can help out with. Only trying to set right expectation from the product.
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I posted up some graphs earlier this month comparing XT with XT32 when I got my new AVR. Not sure how much help they'll be to you, but you can find them here:

"Official" Audyssey thread (FAQ in post #51779)

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I posted up some graphs earlier this month comparing XT with XT32 when I got my new AVR. Not sure how much help they'll be to you, but you can find them here:

"Official" Audyssey thread (FAQ in post #51779)
Let's see how this recurring XT vs. XT32 topic develops. So far IMHO the shared graphs didn't suggest a "night and day" difference between the two well known versions, um,...regardless of being smoothed or not, or regardless of being single point or multipoint averaged measurements or not.

YMMV. No problem.
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Alan, I agree with you. ...And I prefer XT over XT32, from my eyes?

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I was just going to make the post to ask same question. I recently moved my speakers to another location and when took C+Sub reading, got some nasty dips in mid-range (100-300). I did move speakers 3 feet back and forth but results were not good. Then thought of X-32 since it is supposed to respolve (apply filters) more toward mid-range. So wanted to see what difference does X-32 make as compared to XT. I'd be nice to see some Freq/Impulse graphs that shows X-32 doing its magic.
They are in the FAQ Addendum I recently linked to.
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I have run audyssey (almost all versions) numerous times with varying results. I have high back theater chairs and have to have the mic above the back and a foot away from the back according to the faq. The last time however, I reclined the chair so the back was way down and put the mic at my normal listening height. This was the best results I have heard yet (to my ears). Normally, I have to raise the levels of the rear surrounds. This time audyssey had them correct. I also have to cover the chairs with a blanket or audyssey cuts too much of the highs out. It must get a lot of reflection off the leather.
I am not sure if anyone else has noticed anything similar or not.
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