Originally Posted by BobL
I hate to say it but your dealer is probably right about sending the signal direct to the TV. Although, I don't agree with his attitude.
Every fixed panel TV has a video processor with a de-interlacer and scaler in it. The question is which has better video processing the TV or the receiver? Most receivers do not have very good de-interlacing and scaling and I would send the signals native format to the TV without any processing being done. Unfortunately, this is not convenient. To to do this you need to run a minimum of an HDMI, Component, and Composite cables to the display. This has the additional advantage of being able to calibrate each source at the TV, instead of having one calibration for all formats on one HDMI input.
If you have a Pioneer Elite or commercial Pioneer with key digital blade you will definitely get a better picture than going through any of the receivers you mentioned. The regular Pioneer plasmas would also do a better job than the receiver but not as big of a difference. I have set up the Anthem D2 and that certainly has better video processing than the Pioneer plasma or any of the receivers. I finid it a shame that you can spend 2K on a receiver that converts everything to HDMI but doesn't even have a decent video processor like faroudja that can be found in less than $200 DVD players.
Of the receivers you mention all have their issues but if SQ is most important I'd go with Marantz followed by Yamaha/Denon and finally Pioneer. Pick the one that best suites your needs, they are all good especially if you have a good room.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the support!
I clearly understood the dealers point about the (my) Pioneer Elite 11140 likely having a considerably higher quality upscaler/deinterlacer than the onboard built into the Yamaha, Marantz, Denon or Pioneer top end units. (I envy your Anthem unit!!!)
Indeed, my 1140 has the ability to "fine-tune" the inputs. How many, I'm not sure. Currently, I have the HDMI 5 & 6 calibrated for (5)OPPO 981, (6) SA 8300HD STB.
The other 4 inputs (Component/S-video/Composite are untouched.
(FYI--The OPPO 981-HDMI finally has a review posted here... outstanding upscaler)http://www.hdtvexpert.com/pages_b/OPPO_DV-981HD.html
As for my personal needs, In addition to the above, I will be adding a VHS player(s-video)plus 3 cables and maybe my Pioneer elite Laserdisc (component)4-5 cables. The Yamaha has very extensive switching abilities and allows all inputs to switch to all outputs in a matrix fashion. Thus, I can get a little improvement from my old VHS source material using the Scaler in the Yamaha(I think).
However, just the thought of the investment in all of those cables again! Fortunately, eveything will be behind doors covered in speaker mesh to allow air and IR / RF remote signals.
I commmented on LFE, only because you mentioned low output from your Sub via the Yamaha. If there is no problem, then let us kill any rumours NOW! No need to get bogus info out there with so much mis-information already existing. Even the experts can't agree!