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post #361 of 7304 Old 04-17-2007, 10:06 AM
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I can't remember the last time I was so excited about a new receiver line-up. Onkyo covers all the bases with this new series. I love a manufacturer who thinks about the little guy as well. If nothing else, I respect Onkyo for this much.


tell me about it.... i have had onkyo receivers for the past 10 years and i have no complaints

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tell me about it.... i have had onkyo receivers for the past 10 years and i have no complaints

I had a 575x years ago that I eventually gave to my brother when I went with a smaller digital model and it never had any issues, great sound and interface (and remote!). A few years ago, helped a friend buy an open-box model of the same receiver when The Wiz went under and it's been running in his HT ever since...nary a beat skipped. I think Onkyo's a brand I'd go with without reservation, at least as far as these receivers.

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tell me about it.... i have had onkyo receivers for the past 10 years and i have no complaints

My FIRST dip into DD was ONKYO's receiver that I preferred over Marantz!
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A few receivers give you the option of adding the bass boost, while other just seem to get it right. The digital receivers from Panasonic are another example of this. They can sense the LFE signal and automically apply the bass boost when necessary. I concur with others regarding the excellent bass that the 604 dishes out. I hope this helps

Thanks. although I can't seem to get actual confirmation for the LFE, I don't see complaints of lacking bass. I'd assume the 605 will get it right, too.

You work in Brooklyn or Park Row? I used to be an ops manager at C21, right down the block at ground zero.

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Thanks. although I can't seem to get actual confirmation for the LFE, I don't see complaints of lacking bass. I'd assume the 605 will get it right, too.

You work in Brooklyn or Park Row? I used to be an ops manager at C21, right down the block at ground zero.

I'm actually a manager in the Mail Order division in Queens. It's always a pleasure talking to a fellow New Yorker.

Regarding the 605, my guess would be that it's similar to the 604 in how it handles LFE. It's going to be a great product indeed.

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This thread has picked up a lot the past few days, probably mostly thanks to lrstevens421!

I'm building a new HTS and have pretty either decided or sharply narrowed what components I want for the TV, speakers, and sub. But I was all over the place regarding the A/V receiver. However, after reading such exciting anticipation about Onkyo's "5" series line, that has to be one of the front-runners. While there's a thread here that says HDMI 1.3 is not necessary, it's certainly a nice feature to get.

I'll wait for the next couple months until user reviews and formal reviews come out for these new Onkyo receivers and then will be ready to order my HTS equipment.

Good luck to all that order one of these Onkyo receivers!

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Are you talking about the LFE over HDMI issue? The thread over on audio theory seems to suggest its a menu setting in the prior models:


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...=748147&page=1

I am pretty sure that quote is referring only to the LFE gain on the analog 7.1 inputs. "Receivers offering dedicated 0-15dB analogue SW gain". I have yet to see a confirmation either way on whether there is an issue with the LFE level over HDMI with LPCM on the 604. I own the 604 but do not yet own a high-def player to test it with. There have been multiple threads about the 604 with people wanting to know, but I have not seen a definitive answer.


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Are you talking about the LFE over HDMI issue? The thread over on audio theory seems to suggest its a menu setting in the prior models:


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...=748147&page=1

That refers to the 5.1 inputs:

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Receivers offering dedicated 0-15dB analogue SW gain

* Denon AVR-2307CI, AVR-2807, AVR-3806, AVR-4306, AVR-4806(AVC-A11XV), AVR-4806CI(AVC-A11XVA): 0,5,10,15dB steps
* Onkyo TX-SR604, TX-SR674, TX-SR702, TX-SR804E, TX-NR1000, TX-NR5000E: 0,5,10,15dB steps

Haven't seen any info on the LPCM. You'd need a disc with a real LFE channel, like parts of Avia.

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I'm actually a manager in the Mail Order division in Queens. It's always a pleasure talking to a fellow New Yorker.

Even one from Jersey? Pleasure's all mine.

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I am pretty sure that quote is referring only to the LFE gain on the analog 7.1 inputs. "Receivers offering dedicated 0-15dB analogue SW gain". I have yet to see a confirmation either way on whether there is an issue with the LFE level over HDMI with LPCM on the 604. I own the 604 but do not yet own a high-def player to test it with. There have been multiple threads about the 604 with people wanting to know, but I have not seen a definitive answer.

I can confirm that there is no issue with HDMI PCM LFE and the 604 from personal experience. I installed a 604 with a Toshiba HD-A2 a couple of months back for my father in law and there were no issues with the LFE. I always use King Kong as a test disc, and the mighty Kong stomped through his basement with no hiccups . I'm not 100% certain whether or not there was an option in the menu, but in either case it was handled flawlessly.

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i want the 705... anyone know when it will be available...

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I can confirm that there is no issue with HDMI PCM LFE and the 604 from personal experience. I installed a 604 with a Toshiba HD-A2 a couple of months back for my father in law and there were no issues with the LFE.

Sounds good. I think I had the 605 in my cart at JandR for a few days, but hadn't pulled the trigger and now it says:

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The following product is restricted and cannot be purchased on our website at this time:
( ONK TXSR605 ) Onkyo TX-SR605 7.1 Channel Home Theater Receiver - Black
You may call 800-806-1115 for more information or to place your order.


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Sounds good. I think I had the 605 in my cart at JandR for af ew days, but hadn't pulled the trigger and now it says:

Sorry about that. Give us a call. We can do a pre-order for you.

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I would like to no if i get the onkyo 605 and hookup the ps3 with westy 37w3
will this take care of the handshake problem. but i will be getting 605. i like it
i will use it with sony vpl-aw15 pj it 1.3 like the 605.i look ps3 and westy 37
thread but nothing post about receivers helping the handshake.


Snoopy, no receiver will help if any of your components has a faulty HDMI implementation.

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Sorry about that. Give us a call. We can do a pre-order for you.

how about for me too
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Does anyone know what crossover frequencies are available with this new line of receivers and if you can set different crossovers for each differently?
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Does anyone know what crossover frequencies are available with this new line of receivers and if you can set different crossovers for each differently?

On the 604 you can set the crossover frequency of each speaker separately, I believe in 10Hz increments. I would guess the new ones to have at least this level of granularity.


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Does anyone know what crossover frequencies are available with this new line of receivers and if you can set different crossovers for each differently?


For the TX-SR605:

Independent Crossover Adjustment for F/C/S/SB
(40/50/60/80/100/120/150/200 Hz)
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Snoopy, no receiver will help if any of your components has a faulty HDMI implementation.

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think u egcarter that what i need to no.
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For the TX-SR605:

Independent Crossover Adjustment for F/C/S/SB
(40/50/60/80/100/120/150/200 Hz)



Ohhhh....very nice!!!
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For the TX-SR605:

Independent Crossover Adjustment for F/C/S/SB
(40/50/60/80/100/120/150/200 Hz)

Oh, yeah. That's what it is on the 604 too Luckily Crutchfield is taking it back with no restocking fee and no return shipping! Gotta love that


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Starting with last year's models (xx04), Onkyo seems to have dispensed with the typical Large/Small settings for speakers. Instead, you simply choose the appropriate crossover for each speaker group (F/C/S/SB), with the lowest setting being Full Band. Certainly makes more sense than trying to explain why large floorstanding towers need to be set to "Small".

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Starting with last year's models (xx04), Onkyo seems to have dispensed with the typical Large/Small settings for speakers. Instead, you simply choose the appropriate crossover for each speaker group (F/C/S/SB), with the lowest setting being Full Band. Certainly makes more sense than trying to explain why large floorstanding towers need to be set to "Small".

Sanjay

I agree, Onkyo seems to have started to pay more attention to detail with their last series. I really hope that trend continues. I can't wait to get my hands on a instruction manual

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Starting with last year's models (xx04), Onkyo seems to have dispensed with the typical Large/Small settings for speakers. Instead, you simply choose the appropriate crossover for each speaker group (F/C/S/SB), with the lowest setting being Full Band. Certainly makes more sense than trying to explain why large floorstanding towers need to be set to "Small".

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The only thing I don't really understand is the "doublebass" feature which apparently sends bass from the front L/R speakers to the sub. But, it will only let you choose this setting if the front speakers are set to "full range". Kind of odd, since I presume that any bass below the crossover freq that you specify for any given speaker is sent to the subwoofer anyway. I guess I don't get the point of this feature.


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In the past, how long does after release with Online stores start to lower the price from MSRP?
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HDMI and Component Video Upconversion is discribed as follows (For 805/705/605/575/505: *Signal is output at its input resolution with no scaling

Does this mean that the AVR will not upscale ?
Please confirm.

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The only thing I don't really understand is the "doublebass" feature....

Some people prefer to let their speakers roll off naturally rather than apply a filter that will cut off the bass at a specific frequency. In order to do that, you need to send a full range signal to your speakers. Then, to play back the lowest frequencies, you carefully dial in the crossover knob on the back of your subwoofer juuuuust till it takes over where your speakers are rolling off.

Personal preference. The idea being to make maximum use of your speakers and use the sub only for what your speakers cannot reproduce (and nothing more). It's also a nice bass management alternative for people who typically find themselves turning off their subs when listening to music.

I guess some people also use the double bass feature to overlap the low frequencies between speakers and subwoofer, for exaggerated bass. Like any feature, it can be used or abused.

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Can anyone comment on one of the features listed for the 905:

Bi-Amp & BTL Capable

I understand (active & passive) Bi-Amping. But what is BTL Capable?

Thanks.
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has anyone heard the effects of dolby-trueHD and dts-masteraudio yet? is it noticeably better or is it just a marketing scheme?
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But what is BTL Capable?

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