Originally Posted by HollandX
In regards to lossless audio, I believe BD movies (that feature lossless audio) can output PCM audio over HDMI to the 805 which can both receive and play it. I also believe the XA2 can output TrueHD and DTS-HD audio over HDMI 1.3, and the 805 can both receive and play it. Is this all correct? Am I still required to use the 5.1 analog audio out on the XA2 to get HD audio? Or are those irrelevant if I have a HDMI 1.3 receiver?
I don't know much but in my own opinion, if you get the choice of analog already decoded sound and passing the digital bit to the receiver so that he decode and then play it. I would take the digital bit any day. We will know for sure when theses units hit the streets and some sound professionnal do studies on the sound that come out. Until then, I would assume the analog sound moving thru a cable can be affected by interference and distortion won't sound nice when amplified at the end of the line and thrown to the speaker. I hear static just thinking about it. Why decode it before the end? Is'nt that the reasons for all theses nice baby we got released soon?
If I set everything up right, how will I KNOW the receiver is playing the lossless audio like PCM and TrueHD that I aim to hear? Is there a display notification that illuminates?
Yes you will know, if you look at the pictures of the front of the unit,it will look like this
With the TX-SR700 I have, you can 'toggle' in what mode you are in with the Display button of the remote.
2-Sound type/speaker config
But fear not, like you see in the linked picture, there is always a very small red sign that indicate the exact sound type the receiver is currently playing. And you heard a small click if it change (as at the start of a dvd, the sound can switch from pcm 2.0 to dolby digital 5.1 or dts...
Seem the higher up of these new receivers had their display put on 2 lines instead of one, good thing.
I read that the 805 features the Faroudja chip. I'm pretty sure I understand correctly that the XA2 has a better upscaler installed. If I send the XA2 through the receiver, will the Faroujda mess with or downgrade that signal? How will it know to just pass it through?
What about the PS3 and HDTV signal I have passing through the Onkyo. Will the Farouja affect those images positively or negatively?
Is the 805 enough for this? The only things that jump out at me for my needs with the higher models are the Reon processor and the full 1080p conversion from all sources. I don't believe I need the Reon if I'm upscaling my standard DVDs in my XA2. The full 1080p upconversion would be NICE, but I don't think I need it for an additional $500. My whole 5.1 speaker system was only $2000 (not trying to brag or complain-- just comparing the ratio of speaker investment to a/v receiver investment). I wouldn't need the full 1080p upconversion since my PS3 and XA2 already output in 1080p, right? So it would only affect my TV watching. As I asked earlier, would the Faroudja chip affect my TV watching positively or negatively?
Well, I'm not certain you will be able to bypass (but from what I've seen in the 674 thread, there is a few options that can be disabled) but it will surely make a lot of sense. You would'nt want 3 layers doing pictures conversion now do you? You got the PS3 conversion, that bring anything to the resolution you choose. 480i is'nt an options, so there is surely a conversion there. The receiver would do his pictures analysis on top of that and then the display panel? Some LCD have quite a bit of processing going on already so they can be delayed quite a bit from the sound for example. The sony XBR 1080p line can disable all processing if the input is already in 1080p HDMI, so if the receiver do the same, the pictures will be processed only once by the one doing the 1080p. It would'nt work any other way. Don't worry, it's for the best, not for the worst.
From what I read, Faroudja is not the greatest while HQV
praise themselves as the best of the best (which seem to be thru). But I'm wondering what the effect will be if the deinterlacing has already been done from the PS3 (that only output in 480p minimum). The basis of the Reon chip is that it has a very smart deinterlacing process that most other chip will panic as soon as motion appear.
My TV used to panic as soon as the cable set up box has some action coming in because of the very heavy compression, not that was awful.
One final silly question to top it all off. I've been reading about the possibility of Firmware Upgrades. How does one upgrade the firmware in a receiver like this?
From what I heard, firmware updates for theses will only be done by the support centers when a specific issues arise. But since everything (except the Reon) is mostly static hardware components, there won't be much to upgrade. It's not like hi-def disk players that will get their keys revoked with each new Disney titles you rent and pop in. New functionnality won't come thru software since the hardware will be quite soldered...