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They are all Class D and hence run relatively cool...barely warm to the touch.
Yes, I am aware of class D efficiency but not all class D amps run 'cool'. Some run warmer then others. My Wyred4Sound MMC 7 for example ran pretty warm but the larger MC runs cooler from what I have read. I have class D amps in some subs that run 'very warm' while some of my other class D amp subs run slightly warm. So that's why I ask where these amps are heat wise. Do you own a DSonic M3 series? I have heard the Pascal modules run relatively cool on the Funk subs so I wanted to see if these amps are the same.
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Yes, I am aware of class D efficiency but not all class D amps run 'cool'. Some run warmer then others. My Wyred4Sound MMC 7 for example ran pretty warm but the larger MC runs cooler from what I have read. I have class D amps in some subs that run 'very warm' while some of my other class D amp subs run slightly warm. So that's why I ask where these amps are heat wise. Do you own a DSonic M3 series? I have heard the Pascal modules run relatively cool on the Funk subs so I wanted to see if these amps are the same.
Here is what I own:

3 D-sonic M3-600M-A's (LCR)
1 D-sonic M3-2000-5 (surrounds)
1 D-sonic M3-2800-7 (surrounds)

and again...barely warm to the touch.
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^ That's great to hear, thank you! Can you also tell me how much space you have for ventilation? I would assume since they do not produce much heat that could probably get away with minimal air space above. Do you think an inch of clearance would be OK for these amps?

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^ That's great to hear, thank you! Can you also tell me how much space you have for ventilation? I would assume since they do not produce much heat that could probably get away with minimal air space above. Do you think an inch of clearance would be OK for these amps?
I haven't permanently mounted mine yet. Eventually, they will be rack mounted in a ventilated equipment closet (shown in my build thread). As long as you have adequate ventilation you should be OK but I would check in with Dennis to make sure.
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The smallest air gap provides adequate ventilation for the D-Sonic amps.
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Did Dennis introduce new mono and stereo amps lately? There're a couple of listings on Agon for 1200watt mono and 2400watt stereo amps from D-sonic.. These are not on the D-sonic website though..

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Did Dennis introduce new mono and stereo amps lately? There're a couple of listings on Agon for 1200watt mono and 2400watt stereo amps from D-sonic.. These are not on the D-sonic website though..


Sam,


There is no change in amplifier technology here.


The original power ratings are valid for 230VAC service. The new ratings reflect outputs at 115VAC service. Most of my customers have 115VAC so I decided to change the specifications for this reason. They actually put out approximately 10% more power than what I show but I opted for a more conservative rating.


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Hi guys, I'm new to amps. I was looking at an Emotive XPA-3 to add some punch to my front 3 (Paradigm Signature S4's). But then I remembered years ago reading about the D-Sonic amps. Why are these class D amps still so under the radar? I know they are more expensive than the Emotive amp I was considering but the power increase is substantial so I'd consider it. Any advice on amps would be appreciated.

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Hi guys, I'm new to amps. I was looking at an Emotive XPA-3 to add some punch to my front 3 (Paradigm Signature S4's). But then I remembered years ago reading about the D-Sonic amps. Why are these class D amps still so under the radar? I know they are more expensive than the Emotive amp I was considering but the power increase is substantial so I'd consider it. Any advice on amps would be appreciated.

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If you want more power, class-H is also an option the XPR-5 is 400 WPC x 5:


https://emotiva.com/products/amplifiers/xpr-5


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Hi guys, I'm new to amps. I was looking at an Emotive XPA-3 to add some punch to my front 3 (Paradigm Signature S4's). But then I remembered years ago reading about the D-Sonic amps. Why are these class D amps still so under the radar? I know they are more expensive than the Emotive amp I was considering but the power increase is substantial so I'd consider it. Any advice on amps would be appreciated.

Thanks,
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http://www.d-sonic.net/

Give Dennis a call. He is the owner of the company and will answer any questions you may have. He is a very good guy to talk to.
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Hi guys, I'm new to amps. I was looking at an Emotive XPA-3 to add some punch to my front 3 (Paradigm Signature S4's). But then I remembered years ago reading about the D-Sonic amps. Why are these class D amps still so under the radar? I know they are more expensive than the Emotive amp I was considering but the power increase is substantial so I'd consider it. Any advice on amps would be appreciated.

Thanks,
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You cannot go wrong with a D-Sonic amp.
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Yes, I am aware of class D efficiency but not all class D amps run 'cool'. Some run warmer then others. My Wyred4Sound MMC 7 for example ran pretty warm but the larger MC runs cooler from what I have read. I have class D amps in some subs that run 'very warm' while some of my other class D amp subs run slightly warm. So that's why I ask where these amps are heat wise. Do you own a DSonic M3 series? I have heard the Pascal modules run relatively cool on the Funk subs so I wanted to see if these amps are the same.
My dsonic runs pretty warm with three inches of space above and lots on the side
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what's the RCA input sensitivity of the dsonic multichannel amp? consumer or pro level?
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I'm thrilled that my M3-6000-5 D-Sonic amplifier will be arriving next week!


Looking forward to placing it in my rack and to sharing my impressions with anyone interested.
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I'm thrilled that my M3-6000-5 D-Sonic amplifier will be arriving next week!


Looking forward to placing it in my rack and to sharing my impressions with anyone interested.
Congratulations... Awesome purchase.
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I'm thrilled that my M3-6000-5 D-Sonic amplifier will be arriving next week!


Looking forward to placing it in my rack and to sharing my impressions with anyone interested.
Post your impressions here. There will be lots of curious people.
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Post your impressions here. There will be lots of curious people.
Absolutely!

In the market for an amp, pretty clueless about them, but was advised to take D-Sonic into consideration as I am considering speakers that are power-hungry. Please do keep us posted!
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Post your impressions here. There will be lots of curious people.
So the M3-6000-5 amplifier has been running in my system for the last several days.


It is impossible to ignore the power of this beast: >1200 watts through each of five channels!


The only surprise was how incredibly quiet this amp is at idle. When a signal arrives from its black background, it is dramatic, dynamic, crisp and clean.


"Grip" is a word that I would be comfortable using to describe the character of the sound that the M3 produces. All audio presents with a focus and strength that I've not experienced previously.


Very highly recommended without any reservation.


I couldn't ask more from an amplifier...
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So the M3-6000-5 amplifier has been running in my system for the last several days.


It is impossible to ignore the power of this beast: >1200 watts through each of five channels!


The only surprise was how incredibly quiet this amp is at idle. When a signal arrives from its black background, it is dramatic, dynamic, crisp and clean.


"Grip" is a word that I would be comfortable using to describe the character of the sound that the M3 produces. All audio presents with a focus and strength that I've not experienced previously.


Very highly recommended without any reservation.


I couldn't ask more from an amplifier...
Good to hear, thanks for the report!

Do these amps have just a single, power-on LED on the front, or do they also have indicators for each channel that is being driven?
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Good to hear, thanks for the report!

Do these amps have just a single, power-on LED on the front, or do they also have indicators for each channel that is being driven?

There is a single blue power LED on the front of the amp.
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There is a single blue power LED on the front of the amp.
Got it! I like the idea of an indicator per channel, but at the same time I could see that (especially ones that go up and down) as a distraction whereas the D-Sonic is pure simplicity - and that too is am attractive feature in a different way. I know some other amps allow you to turn off or dim the LEDs, but still.

I guess I'm leaning towards a D/G/H type amp at this point and there doesn't seem to be a lot out there about these, generally speaking - but the little I do hear is pretty positive, and I'm currently considering:

D-Sonic
AudioControl
Wyred4Sound

I do also want to check out the upcoming Emotiva amps, but so far sounds like going with D-Sonic would not be making a mistake.
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So the M3-6000-5 amplifier has been running in my system for the last several days.


It is impossible to ignore the power of this beast: >1200 watts through each of five channels!


The only surprise was how incredibly quiet this amp is at idle. When a signal arrives from its black background, it is dramatic, dynamic, crisp and clean.


"Grip" is a word that I would be comfortable using to describe the character of the sound that the M3 produces. All audio presents with a focus and strength that I've not experienced previously.


Very highly recommended without any reservation.


I couldn't ask more from an amplifier...
i wonder how that works when a 15amp circuit is rated at 1800watts and a 20amp at 2400watts...

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i wonder how that works when a 15amp circuit is rated at 1800watts and a 20amp at 2400watts...
This could be psycho-acoustics, but I noticed a good difference when I went from shared 15amp circuit to dedicated 20 amp circuit for my M3-1200S. I thought that was the biggest bang for the buck audio improvement I have had in my system.
I'm sure for that 6000 watts amp, there are dual plugs in the back. Unless you have a huge room, you might not need them though. Thanks for your review. what speakers are you driving with these amps and what amp were you using before?

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This could be psycho-acoustics, but I noticed a good difference when I went from shared 15amp circuit to dedicated 20 amp circuit for my M3-1200S. I thought that was the biggest bang for the buck audio improvement I have had in my system.
I'm sure for that 6000 watts amp, there are dual plugs in the back. Unless you have a huge room, you might not need them though. Thanks for your review. what speakers are you driving with these amps and what amp were you using before?
Sam, what you noticed in moving to a 20 amp circuit is that your amp was able to deliver superior sound quality because of improved dynamic range and linearity.


Conventional wisdom suggests that more power equals more volume. However, power to volume is a logarithmic function so a 200watt amp doesn't play twice as loud as a 100watt amp. The 200 watt amp should, all other things being equal, be better able to present soft and loud tones together in context and with improved accuracy.


My amp's modules are "rated" for very high output that, if appropriately powered, might come in handy for arc welding. For audio playback only a fraction of their potential output is typically being used. The major benefit of high powered audio amplification is having the headroom to provide superior clarity and resolution which my new amp produces in spades.


The amp is providing power to four Salk HT2-TL speakers with a matching center that uses the same drivers.


My previous amp was a D-Sonic M3000-5. Doubling the power with the new M6000-5 dramatically improved sound quality even though listening levels have remained the same.
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i wonder how that works when a 15amp circuit is rated at 1800watts and a 20amp at 2400watts...
It works just fine.

Program material peak levels are many times greater than the average power, while circuits are rated for continuous or average power, and can handle bursts many times greater.

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Well, I'd call that favorable! Tehse amps seem like one of the best-swept secrets in the audio world. Not sure what's up with that if they are really that good. I'm not ready to pull the trigger just yet, but I am seriously considering one of these. Not 100% sure that I will need an amp for my setup, but if I decide that I do, I will be looking at D-Sonic as a front-runner.

I actually like the simple, unassuming appearance. Straight-forward, no gimmicks. Just quality power.
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