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I know it is very difficult to diagnose, the only thing I could do is replace the capacitors.
In total, could I just replaced one after the other but it does not make sense
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Hello
I have a problem with the Onkyo TX-SR805
No video via HDMI, mentioned almost all capacitors, but it did not help.
By mistake I connected the output to the input and perhaps because something is burned.
Can anyone help repair?
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I know it is very difficult to diagnose, the only thing I could do is replace the capacitors.
In total, could I just replaced one after the other but it does not make sense
I just don't know. I wish I could help because I know how you feel. And I also know how expensive it is to bring audio gear to a repair shop.

...In the hope that someone else is reading this and had a similar experience with the right recipe/solution.
I think that your "small mistake" might have blew up a resistor or something like that. Look for any brownish part, any anomaly by eye.
And then you need to test the part you think is blown. But you know that already.
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I know it is very difficult to diagnose, the only thing I could do is replace the capacitors.
In total, could I just replaced one after the other but it does not make sense

Don't mess around. Take it to a repair shop qualified to work on Onkyo receivers.

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I found this element here, this is http://pdf1.alldatasheet.pl/datashee...TC7SZ08FU.html

It is located at the HDMI output, monitor out, and cleaned the brush, I noticed that it is loose, but the paths are broken, but it is to fix.

I hope that this will cause only a small problem as me in Poland this item is not available, I'd have to buy on ebay.

Q8306 -




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http://www.pl.onkyo.com/en/authorise...oints-378.html

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leonarl, so far so good...you located a failed part: Q8306

Keep in touch after you get the part and install it. ...And very best of luck.
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Does the receiver DAC determine how good it sounds?
Besides the speakers of course.

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No Asere, the DACs don't determine how good a receiver sounds. It's the sum of all parts, well designed boards with short signal paths, and with quality parts all around.
Good engineering, attention to details...like keeping the analog stage separated of the digital section. ...And the video circuit board too.
No noise contamination and spilling, good power supply, enough capacitance, proper cooling with adequate heatsink, transistors, capacitors with right values, resistors, speaker relays, etc.

The DACs, their implementation is part of it too. Everything contributes to good sound.

Example: Look inside the Marantz AV8802a pre/pro, and the Yamaha CX-A5100 pre/pro. ...Solid engineering with intelligent design and premium parts.
And yes they also use quality DACS, from AKM and ESS. ...Sure helps. ...The room EQ system too, Audyssey (FIR filters) and YPAO (PEQ with 64-bit DSP chip).

The Onkyo 805 has also Audyssey (MultEQ XT) and Burr-Brown DACs, PCM-1796 (inexpensive). Big size power transformer, good size heatsink, and quality Toshiba transistors.
The amp section is its main attribute. It can drive 4 Ohm speakers. But it also gets really hot, so that's the downside as heat is public enemy number one of electronics.
It requires additional cooling by putting some fans on top or inside, across the HDMI board.

I would say that the sound character is smooth overall, without being harsh and without letting details in evidence.
But it sure can play loud without strain. ...Just keep an eye on that heat.
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I'm buying a used unit, the guy lost the mic for it, can I just get either one from ebay or amazon and it will work? Will only Audyssey mics work?
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I'm buying a used unit, the guy lost the mic for it, can I just get either one from ebay or amazon and it will work? Will only Audyssey mics work?
The Audyssey system built into the 805 will be calibrated to work correctly with originally supplied mic. Using something that isn't exactly the same spec as the original will give inaccurate results.
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Thanks to you for sharing your initiative, showing the pictures with that tiny part. ...And that you noticed was loose.
It's a good start...it might not resolve the issue but it's a very good initiative...the right direction.
That's how we learn, and it's more rewarding.

Audio repairmen are not all equal; it's very easy to get taken for a ride...a financial one.
The diy people are a great bunch...and you are part of that bunch. www.diyaudio.com
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I'm buying a used unit, the guy lost the mic for it, can I just get either one from ebay or amazon and it will work? Will only Audyssey mics work?
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The Audyssey system built into the 805 will be calibrated to work correctly with originally supplied mic. Using something that isn't exactly the same spec as the original will give inaccurate results.
True, the 805 came with Onkyo's own calibrated 'hockey puck' style mic. If using an Audyssey mic it won't be calibrated the same.

* Check with Onkyo, or any other source (eBay, Amazon) if you can find the mic that came originally with the 805. ...Should be very inexpensive.
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True, the 805 came with Onkyo's own calibrated 'hockey puck' style mic. If using an Audyssey mic it won't be calibrated the same.

* Check with Onkyo, or any other source (eBay, Amazon) if you can find the mic that came originally with the 805. ...Should be very inexpensive.
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The Audyssey system built into the 805 will be calibrated to work correctly with originally supplied mic. Using something that isn't exactly the same spec as the original will give inaccurate results.
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I'm buying a used unit, the guy lost the mic for it, can I just get either one from ebay or amazon and it will work? Will only Audyssey mics work?
I bought a replacement in 2010 from Onkyo... their part number was "1B068MIC", Description: "MIC MIC-5000", cost: $12.99. Just attempted to find it on their website, but no joy Nope, nobody has 'em so far... but this place says their substitute works...
http://www.newremotecontrol.com/cata...atnum=1B068MIC
Good luck!

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It says: no longer available unfortunately.

But someone else will have.

* I searched, and the only one I found (eBay) they want $60 for it! ...Should be no more than $15 (max.).

Outrageous! http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ONKYO-MI...3D121827994174

P.S. @grubavs , I noticed that you substituted your link for another one; with a mic substitute ($20), which is available.

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I actually just upgraded to a new Denon 4200 from my good ole Onkyo 805 (boy do I remember the good old days...putting in a home made chip to upgrade it...the guy who figured that out was a genius!!!!!)

Is there actually interest in people still buying these? I would sell it but I can't imagine actually making anything off them. What are most people like me doing now that they are paperweights?

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I actually just upgraded to a new Denon 4200 from my good ole Onkyo 805 (boy do I remember the good old days...putting in a home made chip to upgrade it...the guy who figured that out was a genius!!!!!)

Is there actually interest in people still buying these? I would sell it but I can't imagine actually making anything off them. What are most people like me doing now that they are paperweights?

I still have the mic though so i guess that's good.


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Do you like the sound from the 4200 better than the 805? Atmos aside just the sound in general.

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You know, I cannot truthfully say. I think I do but I do really miss the 805.

I can say that I do think overall it was a better unit. It just couldn't keep up with the times. The new audassy is great but the good old sound of the 805 I could be better over all.


Damn. I didn't want to admit that!


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You know, I cannot truthfully say. I think I do but I do really miss the 805.

I can say that I do think overall it was a better unit. It just couldn't keep up with the times. The new audassy is great but the good old sound of the 805 I could be better over all.


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Lol, I know what you mean. I had Denon x1200 and Onkyo 646. I liked the 646 better than the x1200. In the end returned them both and still run the 805. It really is hard to say I guess. An upgrade would really be just to keep up with the times.

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Hello
I have a problem with the Onkyo TX-SR805
No video via HDMI, mentioned almost all capacitors, but it did not help.
By mistake I connected the output to the input and perhaps because something is burned.
Can anyone help repair?
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I'm buying a used unit, the guy lost the mic for it, can I just get either one from ebay or amazon and it will work? Will only Audyssey mics work?
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I actually just upgraded to a new Denon 4200 from my good ole Onkyo 805 (boy do I remember the good old days...putting in a home made chip to upgrade it...the guy who figured that out was a genius!!!!!)

Is there actually interest in people still buying these? I would sell it but I can't imagine actually making anything off them. What are most people like me doing now that they are paperweights?

I still have the mic though so i guess that's good.
The two members above you can use it:
1. leonarl - you can sell your Onkyo 805 receiver to him...he needs a new video board.
2. 3xrock - you can sell your 805's mic to him...he has no mic.
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Do not sell your 805's. These new receivers put features first over sound quality. You can't get the 805's amps, wattage, performance at the same price these days. I feel the same about Pioneer's receivers that used ICE powered amps. The SC-07 to SC-37 were really high quality AVR's.

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Well blew up two receivers yesterday, an 806 and a 646. Think these will be my first and last Onkyo's. Both in protection mode, returned the 646 and it's being replaced by Best Buy, the 806 I'll have to have repaired.
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Was there every a solution discovered for the 805 losing its speaker configuration at power loss?

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Was there every a solution discovered for the 805 losing its speaker configuration at power loss?

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Mine never did that.

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Someone was having a similar problem a few years back that I saw earlier in this thread (didn't see a solution). Seems to be a member who is still active on the forum so I PMed him.
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Someone was having a similar problem a few years back that I saw earlier in this thread (didn't see a solution). Seems to be a member who is still active on the forum so I PMed him.
Please post here what you find about losing config on power loss. I have had the same issue. It is an eprom thing, but not sure what the fix is.
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Please post here what you find about losing config on power loss. I have had the same issue. It is an eprom thing, but not sure what the fix is.
Generally, there is a very large capacitor in most receivers that is responsible for keeping power to the memory chip. I have seen many many receivers where this cap failed over time.
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Hello all. Been a while but I figured that I should let you know that after about 2yrs of going back & forth I got my 805 serviced & it's working like new. To make the story short, a board was found, (don't ask me how & where from..lol), & it was sent to a local authorized service repair in my area. They still had issues with the unit after the new board was installed. It was sent to ABL Electronics from there. I received this e-mail from then,( I purposely left out the tech's name so he wouldn't be put on blast). On 6/8/2015 12:29 PM,____________wrote:
>Hello,
This is ____ from ABL Electronics and I am the tech working on your
Onkyo receiver. I have been unable to confirm the issue with no audio
via HDMI. I have tried all 3 HDMI inputs and all 3 are producing audio
through the speaker outputs. Were you having audio issues with any
non-HDMI inputs? Did you try another HDMI input source? It appears
that the HDMI board was recently replaced based on the color of the
board and lack of dust, was the board replaced? Did it make a difference
to the problem? Can you provide any additional details about the problem?

I contacted them back with more info & upon further investigation they found something else was also wrong, board related, & they fixed the issue. It was then shipped back to my local repair shop. The tech there asked if I would like them to also fix the inevitable display problem that may arise, I ok'd that & I picked it up from them. In retrospect, I should have had then install a extra fan. I may do this in the future because they said it wouldn't be a huge deal & relatively inexpensive to have done. I have the unit in the basement powering some OLDSCHOOL VS150 Cerwin Vegas. Because they are rated at a 4ohm load I have the unit well ventilated, but the extra fan is going to be inserted soon to be safe.
I posted this because I felt that even though I fought for damn near 2yrs to get this issue resoled, it was worth it. I almost threw the unit out because of frustration. Onkyo has dealt with me as any other company I've dealt with. They are a company, bottom line will always be in a company's make up. What separates a GOOD company from a poor one is their attempt to satisfy their customers within reason. They kept me ,(as of now), as a loyal customer. I also have an Integra 50.4. My dealer informed me of a hdmi board issues the units were having & they handled that issue fast & without issue. Onkyo's customer service improved in my opinion, but I digress, the TX-SR805 is still an excellent unit for what it offers from it's time of build, don't give up on it unless it's beyond repair, & keep on Onkyo if you have to for a feasible solution, though it may not be repairable, because I truly believe them finding a board for me was lucky & not the norm, they should, as in my case, treat you as a LOYAL ONKYO Customer & resolve the problem.
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Please onkyo read this

I hope that Onkyo reconsider their decision to eliminate Audyssey from their receivers, and maybe soon, Onkyo builds another EXCELLENT receiver like the 805. We need to replace our 805s to a new receiver including new features and enough quality power.
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I hope that Onkyo reconsider their decision to eliminate Audyssey from their receivers, and maybe soon, Onkyo builds another EXCELLENT receiver like the 805. We need to replace our 805s to a new receiver including new features and enough quality power.

I bought the Integra 50.4 because at the time it was close to the TX-SR805 spec wise IMO. At the time of purchase, it was sold to me at a good price. The newer model had been released & the Installer/Dealer looked out for me. Before I got the 805 fixed, I was about the pull the trigger on an Integra 50.5 for about $450, & I hadn't begun to haggle yet..lol.
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