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post #1 of 23002 Old 06-06-2007, 04:38 AM - Thread Starter
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It is finally starting to arrive! I have not spent a great deal amount with it but I figured I better start a thread soon before someone kills me! I have my 805 hooked up like this. HDMI 1 is HD DVD(sending in 1080p/60, HDMI 2 is Blu ray(sending in 1080p/24 or 60), HDMI 3 is DTHEATER JVC HMDT100(1080i) or my XBOX 360 ELITE(sending in 1080p)... I use 2 two of the components for DirecTV HD DVRs. My main DirecTV HD DVR (HR20-100 BLACK) goes straight to my VP. So far after doing a bunch of tests between the inputs I can say I am very impressed with the sound Quality. I will most likely have a Pioneer 94 player here on Friday so I will be able to do more comparisons with a blu ray player that can do advanced audio codecs. The Dolby TrueHD sounds remarkable. even my wife was very impressed with it. She could tell a difference right away! I am planning to watch all of The Matrix movies this weekend and now I can't wait! I do plan to get the 905 (I really could use 4 HDMI inputs plus the 2 OUTS will be fun) but if I did not need the extra HDMIs then the 805 would definitely be good enough! And the BIG question people have been wondering... YES! You can make the 5.1 into 7.1 over HDMI... Thank God! Because I would not want my back surrounds taking the night off whenever we watch HD DVD or Blu ray discs. This AVR at 130 watts per channel sounds like it is doing a lot more! I have quite a few subwoofers (7) around my theater. They are stategically placed. Some you hear some you just feel. Anyway, the 805 handled them like a champ! So far so good over here. I have sent in 1080p/60 and 24 without a hitch. I have also sent in 1080i, 720p, 480p, and of course 480i. They all work well. I only plan to watch 1080i and above for the rest of my life so I may not be the best expert when it comes to 480i sources. I have to head into Chicago later this morning but I will be back tonite. If you have any questions feel free to post them and I will answer them the best I can. I apologize for not posting any pics yet. I just haven't had the time to get some done. I will as soon as I can slow down and breathe. I hope my "mini" review helps out some of you. Again, I apologize for being curt but I have just been so damn busy this week. That's why I was so dissapointed I did not get the 805 on Friday or Saturday... I have only spent about 2 or 3 hours with it so far... But if you are still wondering if this receiver is worth it, DON'T! At this price range you won't find a better sounding unit with all these codecs and features... Onkyo has out done itself with this unit. More later...

SPECIAL REQUEST:

Question: I want to use component and or HDMI input and component and or HDMI output. What does the 805 convert to what? When does the 805 downscale 1080p to 720p?

A:
For component input > 805 > HDMI OUTPUT:
480i > 480p
480p > 480p
720p > 720p
1080i > 720p
1080p > 720p
(It will convert component to HDMI with a max of 720p)

With HDMI input > 805 > HDMI OUTPUT:
480p > 480p
720p > 720p
1080i > 1080i
1080p > 1080p
(EVERYTHING IS UNTOUCHED)

For component INPUT > 805 > OUTPUT
480i > 480p
480p > 480p
720p > 720p
1080i > 1080i
1080p > 1080p
(EVERYTHING IS UNTOUCHED)

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Hi joerod
Can you tell us if the TrueHd came in the Onkyo front panel or it´s MultichannelLPCM, or anything else??
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joerod,

First, thank you very much for getting this started. I certainly appreciate your effort. The 805 sounds like just what I am looking for.

My only question is this: I have the XBox 360 that uses component out. Connecting this to the 805's component in, what resolution will I get if this signal is output to my TV over HDMI? Will it be 720 or 1080?

Once again thank you for your time and effort.

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...But if you are still wondering if this receiver is worth it, DON'T! At this price range you won't find a better sounding unit with all these codecs and features... Onkyo has out done itself with this unit. More later...

Great to hear this, I was waiting for the first opinion on 805 and hoped to hear good words. Waiting for my own 805 will be easier now
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Is it hum free using HDMI sources?

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Answering your questions quickly I can say first off, NO HUM issues here. Also, I did not use my ELITE with component so I will have to check on that one later. But my DirecTV sources would say either 1080i or 720p (depending on what I sent in) so I think that is good news! And as far as the front display, it was around midnight when I was testing out HD DVDs and all I can say at this moment is I do not recall seeing MULTICHANNEL on the display. I believe it said Dolby. I wish I would have memorized everything but it is hard trying to think about what questions fellow AVS members might ask me.

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Got an email confermation from J&R and my 805 will arrive on the 7th also. I'm relieved to hear that the hum issue is gone. Now I have to wait for my wife to set it up and tell me how it goes
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Ok joerod, thanks anyway. It was just to confirm if the Onkyo recognises the TrueHD signal that came from the HD-DVD.
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joerod,

First, thank you very much for getting this started. I certainly appreciate your effort. The 805 sounds like just what I am looking for.

My only question is this: I have the XBox 360 that uses component out. Connecting this to the 805's component in, what resolution will I get if this signal is output to my TV over HDMI? Will it be 720 or 1080?

Once again thank you for your time and effort.

Best Regards,

Steve

Thunderduck it is my understanding that this receiver has the bandwith via component to run the XBOX360 at 1080P... And pass to the TV via HDMI. You must choose this setting via the display menu... The 1080P is not officialy supported by Microsoft over component, so it is anyone guess... That is one of the reasons I was looking at the 805 unit... Good luck!
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No problem. I will check that first as soon as I get back. And congrats OIFVET! The 805 is a breeze to set up...

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Please expand on sound quality and what your previous or comparison receiver is.


Any HDMI switching issues i.e a Cable Box w/ HDMI 1.0?
Are you runnign anything longer than 15 feet in HDMI?

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joerod, can you provide any SACD and/or DVD-Audio feedback?

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If you have any questions feel free to post them and I will answer them the best I can. I apologize for not posting any pics yet. I just haven't had the time to get some done. I will as soon as I can slow down and breathe. I hope my "mini" review helps out some of you. Again, I apologize for being curt but I have just been so damn busy this week. That's why I was so dissapointed I did not get the 805 on Friday or Saturday... I have only spent about 2 or 3 hours with it so far... But if you are still wondering if this receiver is worth it, DON'T! At this price range you won't find a better sounding unit with all these codecs and features... Onkyo has out done itself with this unit. More later...

Crucial question. Can you confirm whether or not the 805 has the "hum" problem that plagues the 804, as set forth in this thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&highlight=hum

Please perform this test to check for the hum issue:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&#post10064311

And as outlined here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&#post10065290

This is a description of the 804 hum issue (see if the 805 has it too):


A general background level type of hum (from all speakers), only heard when no audio is actually playing through the HDMI connected source (i.e, DVD player powered on, but no disk playing, or disk is paused), and only when the volume level approaches reference (-15 and higher). This is not heard when actually playing DVDs (even in quiet scenes) -- and even at very high levels approaching reference.


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I already posted I did not hear a HUM issue. I can try that test when I get back but I have to admit since it was very quiet during my late night testing it won't be a top priority. Expanding on sound Q... I have an Onkyo TX1000 (msrp was 4999), I had a Denon 5803 previously, and a HK 7200 previosuly. I also have a few lesser Onkyo models that I use for my family room and one for my outdoor theater. The 805 is up there with my TX1000 receiver. If the 905 sounds as ggod (and I don't see why not) then it will definitley replace the TX1000 in my main theater. Actually, the 805 will be starting this weekend and if all goes well it will remain there until the 905 appears in August sometime... The 805 has great sound range levels. It has very good clarity as well. When people whisper it sounds like they are in the same room as you! And as far as power goes it can handle its own quite easily and I think my setup pushes receivers to the limit. Also, my ELITE sounded sweet going thru the 805... Hope this helps some...

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While some further testing might be in order, post #6 indicates no HDMI hum. My understanding is that, even on the 804s, this issue was reconciled with a firmware upgrade some time ago. I would be very surprised if it plagued the 805s.

My question (which nobody here could answer, of course) is where are the professional reviews of these models? Surely review models were sent by now if consumers are getting their hands on them.

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COOL ! Congrats for your new baby
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That's just it though. I should have had my unit last Friday but a UPS error made me have to wait a little longer... I work with a custom installation company and we get them usually before everyone else. Sorry if you don't consider my review "professional" enough but under the circumstances it was the best I could do...

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That's just it though. I should have had my unit last Friday but a UPS error made me have to wait a little longer... I work with a custom installation company and we get them usually before everyone else. Sorry if you don't consider my review "professional" enough but under the circumstances it was the best I could do...



I thought your review was great, Joe...I was interested to know how you thought it compared to the tx-nr1000 (as a fellow owner) & I was happy to hear what you thought...i'll be picking up one w/in a week or 2...

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While some further testing might be in order, post #6 indicates no HDMI hum. My understanding is that, even on the 804s, this issue was reconciled with a firmware upgrade some time ago. I would be very surprised if it plagued the 805s.

My question (which nobody here could answer, of course) is where are the professional reviews of these models? Surely review models were sent by now if consumers are getting their hands on them.

Friday can't come soon enough...

No such thing as firmware upgrade. Some people sent their 804s back to Onkyo for a "fix" -- but it did not work.

See the links I provided above.


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pics? mine is arriving soon i cant wait...
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That's just it though. I should have had my unit last Friday but a UPS error made me have to wait a little longer... I work with a custom installation company and we get them usually before everyone else. Sorry if you don't consider my review "professional" enough but under the circumstances it was the best I could do...

I'm sorry, joerod. I didn't mean any offense by this at all -- your review WAS great (what you've said about SQ in relation to other receivers has been especially helpful; these kinds of "real world" direct comparisons are very hard to come by, especially from someone as knowledgeable as yourself)! I was referring to the CNets, Audioholics, and so forth, who generally put these things through every conceivable scenario so "we" -- and in this case, you -- don't have to. What I meant, basically, is that it would be helpful to all of us to have those site reviews up, to clear out some of these lingering questions. And it would help you too: you could actually ENJOY your 805, rather than being hounded to test this or that capability. You've done us all a great service, with much kindness and good humor; I think we all owe you a HUGE thanks.

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How are you connected to your Display from the 805: HDMI only or HDMI and Component. It appears the 605 can't take 1080i over Component and output through HDMI at 1080i. It ouputs every analog source over HDMI as 720p. Is this behavior present in the 805?
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Is there a GUI or OSD? Can you provide screen shots? Also, is the 805 the model with the Reon processor or is that the 905? If so, can you describe the conversion and or any settings (Contrast, color, brightness...etc) that can be adjusted using the reciever?
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Is there a GUI or OSD? Can you provide screen shots? Also, is the 805 the model with the Reon processor or is that the 905? If so, can you describe the conversion and or any settings (Contrast, color, brightness...etc) that can be adjusted using the reciever?

The Reon is only in the 875 and 905. The 605/705/805 use Faroudja DCDi.

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Hey no offense powerknowledge. I agree, you would think the magazines would get some units early so they can have reviews to... I have my 805 going to my crystalio II but I did have it go straight to my sony ruby as well. And I also sent it to my wife's Toshiba LCD in her bar. And not to mention to my "soon to be adopted" daughter's Viewsonic LCD in the playroom. In all instances it worked well. I should have mentioned that in my first post! The HDMI handshakes have worked flawlessly with my equipment.

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Hey no offense powerknowledge. I agree, you would think the magazines would get some units early so they can have reviews to... I have my 805 going to my crystalio II but I did have it go straight to my sony ruby as well. And I also sent it to my wife's Toshiba LCD in her bar. And not to mention to my "soon to be adopted" daughter's Viewsonic LCD in the playroom. In all instances it worked well. I should have mentioned that in my first post! The HDMI handshakes have worked flawlessly with my equipment.

You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. I look forward to further updates, as long as you're willing and able to give them.

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I will try and do some good quality pics later... I am now on the road so have a good day everyone!

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Wow. Crystalio, 7 subwoofers, outdoor theater, wifes bar....can you adopt me too Joerod?
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Thunderduck it is my understanding that this receiver has the bandwith via component to run the XBOX360 at 1080P... And pass to the TV via HDMI. You must choose this setting via the display menu... The 1080P is not officialy supported by Microsoft over component, so it is anyone guess... That is one of the reasons I was looking at the 805 unit... Good luck!

Thank you very much for the info. Much appreciated.

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