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AFAIK, no new AVRs at CES, rather more likely to hear something later in the spring on the new models.

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So is there really anything available at the moment that can remotely compete with the 5308? Not that I'm looking to upgrade, I'm just curious. Seems it was the last of the great flagships frown.gif
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Depends on whether its got the 3D/XT32 upgrade ... if not .. then yes ... if yes ... then no.

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Depends on whether its got the 3D/XT32 upgrade ... if not .. then yes ... if yes ... then no.

If they are not going to release a new high end receiver, why not release more of the upgrade kits? It does not make sense to me.

Are there kits available? I was told no months ago.

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Hello,

 

i need some help… i was living under a rock you can say …was un aware of the upgrade until i needed to 

add an 80 inch 3d TV to my home theater…. found out that upgrade has been discontinued

do i have any recourse or place where i can buy after market parts to get my 5308cia upgraded

 

i love my Denon 5308… it is awesome and don't want to replace it … have listened to macintosh before

my devon in my humble opinion operates far better than the macintosh i used to own...

 

any help would be greatly appreciated for any work around solution etc etc. to get my audio unto speed if not

the HDMI...

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No kit. No upgrade. However, all you need do is to simply purchase a dual HDMI 1.4 Blu Ray player so you can pass the 3D video to the TV and the HD audio to the 5308. smile.gif

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I would never sell the 5308 either, get you an Oppo, and do the 7.1 ext ins and enjoy, Same dilema here, with my 5803, until I opted for the 4520, because of Audyssey XT32, everything thrown at it sounds incredible, I just cant get myself to sell the 5803 though, it will eventually power another theater room and considering mild electrostatics for the 5803 massive amps, when I wasted 800.00 on the thx upgrade for the old Denon, I never used it, just throw a towel over your speakers for thx effect, but if you can find an Xt32 upgrade for the 5308, it will be more than worth it . God please allow the new Denons to remember all settings for every input this time around, or at least a quick select for each input
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Thanks guys ... I really appreciate all the help
I have Focal Electra Be 1038 as my fronts , monitor audio center , alpine ceiling speakers , monitor audio sub woofer and Bose 901 series 6 hanging from ceiling as the surround back speakers 7.1 set up ...was gonna get an 80 inch 3d tv this coming thanks giving to finally retire my more than 10 year old 60inch sony grand wega and move from 1080i 2d to the realm of 1080p 3d tv ... Searching for compatibility is how I discovered bout the upgrade last week ...


What do u guys think about the thought of using a pre amp and use the 5308 as a power amp any suggestions on
What would work best with my 5308...
That way I may be able to enjoy the benefits of new Audissey 32 sound upgrade as well ...
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My apologies ... I checked out the opo 3d blue ray player ... It has individual outputs for each of the speakers and impressive chip set ... It will solve my dilemma

Thank you so very much smile.gif
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What do u guys think about the thought of using a pre amp and use the 5308 as a power amp any suggestions on
What would work best with my 5308...
That way I may be able to enjoy the benefits of new Audissey 32 sound upgrade as well ...


No, it won't work that way. If you were to use the 5308 only as a power amp, then you also would not be able to use any of it's Audyssey features, as those are in the pre-amp section of the 5308.
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Quote:Originally Posted by vakil92 

My apologies ... I checked out the opo 3d blue ray player ... It has individual outputs for each of the speakers and impressive chip set ... It will solve my dilemma

Thank you so very much


Consider the Oppo 103D for only $100 more than the 103 as the 103D uses the Darby Vision technology as well as can be firmware upgraded to support upscaling 1080p to 4k/60fps video while the 103 will be limited to 4k/30fps video.

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i need some help… i was living under a rock you can say …was un aware of the upgrade until i needed to 
add an 80 inch 3d TV to my home theater…. found out that upgrade has been discontinued
do i have any recourse or place where i can buy after market parts to get my 5308cia upgraded
 
i love my Denon 5308… it is awesome and don't want to replace it … have listened to macintosh before
my devon in my humble opinion operates far better than the macintosh i used to own...
 
any help would be greatly appreciated for any work around solution etc etc. to get my audio unto speed if not
the HDMI...
Same exact issue here. Just purchased the Vizio 80" 3D TV and have no way to pass 3D video through the Denon. I have 6 Dune players in my house. 4 Bases 3.0 and 2 303Ds. Currently running optical out the 303D into the Denon for sound. I called Denon about the upgrade and was told no it is no longer available. The AVR 4520CI is a downgrade in my opinion :-(. I have been disc less in my house for 5 years now so the Oppo is not on the table. Zappiti and my 32 TB Video Server are too convenient.

I have tried several HDMI splitters and HMDI Detective with custon EDID to fool Denon but no luck. Once 3D signal hits Denon on any HDMI input nothing passes at all. I am corresponding with HD Fury in reference to their HD Fury 4 and custom EDID splitter for a solution. I was quoted $ 550.00 US and a guarantee that 3D will pass through to TV on output one and HD Audio on output two of the custom splitter with the HD Fury 4 on the Denon side of things.
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I would never sell the 5308 either, get you an Oppo, and do the 7.1 ext ins and enjoy, Same dilema here, with my 5803, until I opted for the 4520, because of Audyssey XT32, everything thrown at it sounds incredible, I just cant get myself to sell the 5803 though, it will eventually power another theater room and considering mild electrostatics for the 5803 massive amps, when I wasted 800.00 on the thx upgrade for the old Denon, I never used it, just throw a towel over your speakers for thx effect, but if you can find an Xt32 upgrade for the 5308, it will be more than worth it . God please allow the new Denons to remember all settings for every input this time around, or at least a quick select for each input
The Oppo has 2 HDMI outputs. One for Video/Audio and the other for the HD Audio w/2D blank image for any non 3D AVR.
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No Sound from Zone 2

I'm trying to reconfigure my 5308 to use zone 2, which I haven't used before. I've attached a pair of speakers to Amp Assign-2, have set Amp Assign to Zone 2, turned on Zone 2, assigned Zone 2 to Source, and cranked up the volume. But I get no sound from the speakers. What am I missing?

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I'm trying to reconfigure my 5308 to use zone 2, which I haven't used before. I've attached a pair of speakers to Amp Assign-2, have set Amp Assign to Zone 2, turned on Zone 2, assigned Zone 2 to Source, and cranked up the volume. But I get no sound from the speakers. What am I missing?

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Hi kdeemer, are trying to pass a HDMI source to Zone 2? If so, not possible, its either optical or coax digital or an analog RCA cables.
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Hi kdeemer, are trying to pass a HDMI source to Zone 2? If so, not possible, its either optical or coax digital or an analog RCA cables.
Yes, that was it. Thanks!
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Hi all nice to see this thread is still a live. I have the last upgrade on my 5308ci the one with 3D. Do you ever see Denon doing a 4K upgrade is it even possible . Long live the tank 5308ci
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Hi all nice to see this thread is still a live. I have the last upgrade on my 5308ci the one with 3D. Do you ever see Denon doing a 4K upgrade is it even possible . Long live the tank 5308ci
Very unlikely since the unit would need a complete DSP overhaul.That would be way more expensive than just adding an Oppo 103D for $600 that would handle 4K.

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So bypass the 5308ci and run your HDMI cable from your Oppo to your 4K TV.
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Hi all i have the 5308ci with upgrade i know we can pass-through 3d but can i pass ULTA HD from netflicks.
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No, the HDMI board is only 1.3.

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Hy, I am thinking of changing my Anthem MRX500 which I really like to get the Denon 5308, but would like to know what are your thoughts about this change, the Anthem already sounds great, and has the ARC equalization that is really good, and as far as power output diferences, for me its not very important couse I own a Vincent SAV P150 power amb.

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A better option if it has the 3D/XT32 upgrade ($1000).

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A better option if it has the ($1000).
Yes, it already comes with the 3D/XT32 upgrade.
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Then I'll defer to any current/previous Anthem owners to chime in.

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My apologies ... I checked out the opo 3d blue ray player ... It has individual outputs for each of the speakers and impressive chip set ... It will solve my dilemma

Thank you so very much


Consider the Oppo 103D for only $100 more than the 103 as the 103D uses the Darby Vision technology as well as can be firmware upgraded to support upscaling 1080p to 4k/60fps video while the 103 will be limited to 4k/30fps video.
Hi
Thank you for the info
Did some heavy duty looking into with current stuff about to be brought into market and some just hitting the shelves but first things first :
I did find out that if the multichannel RCA inputs are not too far from the source then there is not much difference between balanced and unbalanced multichannel inputs so I can reliably use the individual inputs on my 5308ci and be assured that iam not compromising quality
The question I have is as follows :
If I use opo bdp multichannel RCA outputs To connect 5308 ...will the room correction on 5308 ( audissey ) be able to function or is it a direct line to the amps bypassing the preamp on 5308
If I decide to use the 2nd hdmi on opo bdp to connect to 5308 will the processors on oppo do any thing or just pass the info to 5308 unaltered ?
If it passes the info unchanged to 5308 ...then rather than getting a new amp or preamp etc etc ... Should I just call in an my local ARCOS home theater specialist to do a room calibration ( ARCOS CALIBRATION being more detailed than xt32 assumption ) on my existing equipment and buy a dual hdmi output oppo 3Dplayer ?
Lots and lots and lots of questions any help would be greatly appreciated
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>jdsmoothie</strong> <a href="/t/864762/official-denon-5308-thread/4950#post_24246560"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
Depends on whether its got the 3D/XT32 upgrade ... if not .. then yes ... if yes ... then no.</div>
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If they are not going to release a new high end receiver, why not release more of the upgrade kits? It does not make sense to me.<br><br>
Are there kits available? I was told no months ago.<br><br>
Cheers,
I feel frustrated too....
Just read up on Dolby atmos ....
Not just that apparently hdmi 2.0 or rather HDCP2.2 is looming on the horizon .....
The upgrade cycle has turned insane ...
They just came out with 3d pass through upgrade for 5308 to allow pass through so that folks can use 3d not long ago .. Then they came up with 4k and ultra stuff using hdmi 1.4 and by next year all those 4k stuff will become obsolete too... Replaced by new 4k stuff using HDCP 2.2.....AAAAARRRGHHHH!!!!
Makes me wanna stick with my tank 5308 and my sony ancient 1080i DLP Sony grand vega until this HDCP 2.2 stuff gets decided and these companies get their act squared away
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Thank you for the info
Did some heavy duty looking into with current stuff about to be brought into market and some just hitting the shelves but first things first :
I did find out that if the multichannel RCA inputs are not too far from the source then there is not much difference between balanced and unbalanced multichannel inputs so I can reliably use the individual inputs on my 5308ci and be assured that iam not compromising quality
The question I have is as follows :
If I use opo bdp multichannel RCA outputs To connect 5308 ...will the room correction on 5308 ( audissey ) be able to function or is it a direct line to the amps bypassing the preamp on 5308
If I decide to use the 2nd hdmi on opo bdp to connect to 5308 will the processors on oppo do any thing or just pass the info to 5308 unaltered ?
If it passes the info unchanged to 5308 ...then rather than getting a new amp or preamp etc etc ... Should I just call in an my local ARCOS home theater specialist to do a room calibration ( ARCOS CALIBRATION being more detailed than xt32 assumption ) on my existing equipment and buy a dual hdmi output oppo 3Dplayer ?
Lots and lots and lots of questions any help would be greatly appreciated
1. No Audyssey with EXT IN.
2. Pass unaltered if you set to bitstream.
3. I'd give the X32 a chance for awhile first.

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