I had been thinking that if the 875 wasn't what I had hoped, I would get a 3808 with an external VP. Then I got to thinking, hmmmmmmm.... I actually said that, I said hmmmmmmm. Then I thought if I'm gonna pay $1600 for an AVR, then pay another $2K for a external VP, that is $3600. For another $1600, I could get this massive beast with the gold connectors, power out the wazoo (I'm not sure how to spell wazoo nor am I sure that I actually have one), something like a dozen HDMI inputs, plus noone in my neighborhood would be able to tell me they had a better AVR than I do. Sounds alluring to me.
I would also be saving myself from having to buy 2 different amplifiers to power my 2nd and third zones. That has to save me an additional few hundred right there. Then you get the realta VP.
In addition, I cut down on the number of different boxes I have in my AV rack, I don't have to worry about the handshake issues that plagues installations with multiple HDMI devices in series. To heck with the 875 vs 3808 debate. Bring on the 5308. Where/when can I preorder?