Originally Posted by rkgriffin
Depends on who you believe. There were people saying the 4308 was coming in June and then early July. On the 5308 I have heard everything from October to December.
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I was so hoping that this generation of AVR's would offer something in the VP arena that most of us would use, and perhaps they do. With SD still in wide use, I guess the current line of VP chips in the AVR's do a fine job. However, I want something that will reduce block/mosquito noise in HD sources, particularly from overcompressed D* or E* signals.
The problem with most of the current VP's that I've seen is that they aren't really made with AVR's in mind. They have multiple inputs with individual settings per input. If you are running your stuff through an AVR first, then a VP on the way to a TV, the extra inputs and all those specific settings in the VP are wasted. Seems to me you are paying for stuff you aren't really going to use.
I'm sure someday, all this will come together into one unit so that the functions will become seamless, but for now, we'll have to deal with what we've got. I'm sure Denon will be one of the first to offer complete integration of these units into one.
The 5308 may be just the ticket, but at $5200 MSRP it may be hard to justify. That's about $1000 more than the cost of a 4308 + VP. Is it worth that for the added simplicity? I was thinking that the 5308 would give more channels out and it would be justified on that basis, but it seems it is only a 7 channel amp as well, so I'd still be stuck buying amps for my other 3 zones as well. Beyond that, the extra power I'm sure is nice for some, but I'll never use that much.
I know the tech is in place for Denon to deliver. I just wonder why they don't.... Do they feel like they'd be cutting their own throats with a combination AVR/VP at this time? It's not like they have their own standalone VP. They do offer upconverting DVD players for a premium and I guess the 4308 would cut into that business at least some.