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Hello all,

This is where I am:
For a price stand point, I compare:
- Panasonic XR55 @ $199
- Onkyo TX SR505 @ $199
-> For the same price, Onkyo has HDMI switch and Audissey
-> Panasonic is class D, has more power and has a lot of great reviews

For a specs stand point, I compare:
- Panasonic XR55 @ $199
- Onkyo TX SR504 @ $159
-> Both haven't HDMI, so I consider they have the same specs (however one is digital and the other is analog)

The utilization will be 100% Home Theater in a basement (large volume), and I'm interested first in sound quality/movie like effects
What's the best pick between those 3 models?

Thanks
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I think the SR505 might be a couple of generations ahead of the Panasonic in terms of features. Power wise isn't much different - the Panny is 100W into 6Ω which probably works out to around 80W into 8Ω

At this point in time HDMI and Audyssey probably wins it for the Onkyo - although do some research and make sure the HDMI isn't video switching only; sonically you will find fans of both brands - I haven't heard the Onkyo and am a fan of the Panasonic XR series

edit: hmm "V1.3 Pass Through" sounds like it won't be able to take audio from HDMI

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The Onkyo TX-SR505 does HDMI 1.3 passthrough (video and sound) -- but no sound processing on the HDMI. You will need a separate audio cable from your component to the receiver (same as with the others you listed).

The Onkyo has better bass management and A/V synch though (as well as the HDMI switching, component switching, 7.1 channel, several new codecs, and 7.1-analog in for future HD codecs).

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Has anyone tried both and could tell what he think?
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I bought the Onkyo838 about 10 years ago and enjoyed it, up until i discovered Panasonic line.
I'm now on my second panasonic (Xr-50->Xr-57) and couldn't imagine going back to Onkyo.
If anything, i'll wait for the next gen Panny.
As far as sound quality goes for HT and 2Channel, I just prefer my panasonic.
for me, its a no brainer.
Sure the 55 is getting a little old as far as features go, but these little units are just incredible.
YMMV.


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P.S. i'm using paradigm studio ref's V3.

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Are you saying I should be more happy with the Panasonic, rather than the Onkyo?
By the way, the Panny XR 55 is at 179$.......Good price
What are the main differences with the XR57? Is it only the HDMI ability?

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What are the main differences with the XR57? Is it only the HDMI ability?

Yes. A single HDMI input/output. Instead of the HDMI, the SA-XR55 actually has one more component video input than the SA-XR57.

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So you definetely think that the Panasonic XR 55 @ $179 is a better choice than a Onkyo TX SR505 @ $200 (seems to be Onkyo reconditionned)?
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Anyone? I'm still hesitating....
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First of all, I have not auditioned the Panasonic XR55, nor the XR57. I can tell you that we are VERY happy with our new Onkyo TX-SR505 -- it meets all our needs, and then some.

I was in the same boat as you just last week. Here's what I did:

1) Make a list of features that you MUST have. These are the deal-breakers (if it doesn't do it, scratch that receiver off the list).
2) Make a list of features that you would LIKE, and prioritize them as best you can. This will help you narrow your list of candidates down to a "short-list".
3) When you're down to a short-list of 2-4 receivers (based on the above, as well as price, etc.), find their respective manuals online and open them all up, and compare them feature-for-feature ("side by side").

This is what I did, and because of my requirements and "wants", ended up with the 505 over the XR55 and 57 (and the others that made my short-list).

Good luck,

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Thanks,

But my concern is sound quality first. I mean even if HDMI and Audissey are fine, what about the sound quality? I don't want to choose an Amp for a function (Audissey for example) I will use only 1 time
A lot of people said the Panasonic's SQ was really impressive and comparable to much more expensive Amps!!!
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Thanks,

But my concern is sound quality first. I mean even if HDMI and Audissey are fine, what about the sound quality? I don't want to choose an Amp for a function (Audissey for example) I will use only 1 time
A lot of people said the Panasonic's SQ was really impressive and comparable to much more expensive Amps!!!

The sound quality is the first reason I will buy a component. I've read some of the same stuff you have. I have not been able to find a "pro" review of this receiver or the 57.
Have you seen a review of the JVC digital amp?
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Thanks,

But my concern is sound quality first. I mean even if HDMI and Audissey are fine, what about the sound quality? I don't want to choose an Amp for a function (Audissey for example) I will use only 1 time
A lot of people said the Panasonic's SQ was really impressive and comparable to much more expensive Amps!!!

Go to some stores and listen to them. Try to use same (or at least, as close as possible) speakers. Bring your own music or movie, to make the test consistent. That's how I picked my Polk R50 speakers, basically.

Good luck!

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Hello all,

This is where I am:
For a price stand point, I compare:
- Panasonic XR55 @ $199
- Onkyo TX SR505 @ $199
-> For the same price, Onkyo has HDMI switch and Audissey
-> Panasonic is class D, has more power and has a lot of great reviews

For a specs stand point, I compare:
- Panasonic XR55 @ $199
- Onkyo TX SR504 @ $159
-> Both haven't HDMI, so I consider they have the same specs (however one is digital and the other is analog)

The utilization will be 100% Home Theater in a basement (large volume), and I'm interested first in sound quality/movie like effects
What's the best pick between those 3 models?

Thanks

Where are you finding the Onkyo 505 for $199? I have been waiting to get the 505 for a couple weeks, but the best price I can find is $240. Let me know. Thanks!
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Just to you let you know about the XR55. Right now at JR.com it's at 179, but you can haggle the sales rep if you call.

I ordered it online and then decided that i may go for the XR57 instead. So i called their customer service and asked to cancel my order.. well the guy told me he could give a price reduction if i kept it. So I got mine for $159 + shipping.

I also asked if there could be a price reduction on the 57 if i switched my order, but he said he could only offer a $10 discount on that.

YMMV
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