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post #1 of 120 Old 08-15-2007, 10:08 PM - Thread Starter
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Ok, I’ve searched and searched and not found an existing thread so Ill start one. There are also so few Amp threads and hard to find real good info peices on amps.

I’m now up to 5 Outlaw 2200's on my system and will go 7 and maybe even 9 to 11. I absolutely love these things. Sure they aren’t flashy like a lot of amps but I must say, I absolutely love their sound quality. I've spent the past month investigating amps around here and I am amazed at how their pricing grows exponentially from 200 watts+. You just can’t beat the price on these things. I can’t find any complaints about them anywhere.

I like the fact that at any time in the future, I can swap them out. Their so useful I can move them to my system in my bedroom or my bonus room (when my ht is done). They drive just about anything and if they don’t, then buy 2 more and biamp them. (Ive heard of guys tri-amping speakers with them)
When I hit 7, Ill be ready for a prepro specifically the Integra 9.8 which is on my radar (as if I could even get one).

You just can’t beat the price of these little guys, excellent bang for the buck. I friggen love them.

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what other amps have you used or heard?

see I have a soft spot for monoblocks, I feel they are the ultimate in performance and was always wanting to try them in my 13x13 room which is 100% HT, no music

anyone who owns these feel free to add comments, I'd love to try a stack of 5 of them down the road

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Thanks for starting this thread! I am looking at getting 2 or 3 of these to pair with a Rotel 1057 and a pair of B&W 703's and the 3rd to power a soon to be bought center channel.
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Nice! I’m about to pull the trigger on another 2 for my rears (7). I’m pretty sure I’m going to take them up to 9 so that I can biamp my RTi12's (and then future "better" front speakers.

I continue to do a LOT of research on amps. I've probably looked at every amp available now at more than 200w. It’s amazing how much the price goes up exponentially above 200W. I want a good 400w+ amp for the fronts and I don’t want to spend $3000 for it. Seems to me that the best solution is to buy 4 Outlaw 2200's for them. Cant go wrong!

Simply awesome bang for the buck.


I moved the 2 front outlaws up top since I like to listen to music in 2.1 channel most the time. Keep them up there and cool.

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I was thinking about outlaw but I finally broke down and got a 500 watt per channel stereo amp from d-sonic for $1375 and it sounds really good powering my fronts. I think you can get the mono version for $975. I have had class d amps in the past but now they are starting to sound really good, just like a regular linear amp. I really wanted the Red Dragons for the looks but I pretty much got the same thing for a lot less. If you are a girl like me then class d is the way to go because then you won't have to lift over 20 pounds.
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I've had 3 of the older M-200's powering my front three for about three years now. So far, I've never had a problem with them, they sound great to me, have plenty of power, and the price is right. I'll get four more when the dedicated room is finished, new M-2200's will be fine, but used M-200's would work, too, as I don't care about the balanced inputs.

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Nice! I'm about to pull the trigger on another 2 for my rears (7). I'm pretty sure I'm going to take them up to 9 so that I can biamp my RTi12's (and then future "better" front speakers.

I continue to do a LOT of research on amps. I've probably looked at every amp available now at more than 200w. It's amazing how much the price goes up exponentially above 200W. I want a good 400w+ amp for the fronts and I don't want to spend $3000 for it. Seems to me that the best solution is to buy 4 Outlaw 2200's for them. Cant go wrong!

You do realize that when bi-amping with two 200wpc amps, that they do not get added up together in any way to work and give you the same results like a actual 400wpc amp would. So if you really want or need 400wpc, doing this not going to get you anywhere even near the same thing as a actual 400wpc amp would.
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I own 3 of these bad boys, adding another 4 to my new 7.1 setup as soon as the room is done. Nothing but good things to say about them. I too am powering a set of Rti12s, not sure what you would upgrade too over the 12s, they are amazing towers and do a splendid job with HT. All in all a good buy, excellent amps.
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I originally purchased 3 M2200s for my LCR ( had my receiver driving the surrounds ) but needed a bit more for my Lsi15 and LsiC speakers ( hard to drive 4 ohm speakers ) so I pulled the trigger on a Cinenova Grande 3 for my LCR and moved two of the M2200s for my surrounds - working out very well ( surrounds are 4 ohms too but not as difficult to drive it seems most movie tracks don't over drive the surrounds )...

 

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Finished up my Outlaw tower of power! Just in time, almost done with HT space so I'll be able to move them down there!


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My question would be, how does the Outlaw 2200 Monoblock sound when playing music (as oppose to HT)?

Particularly I am looking at classical music with a focus in strings concertos and overtures.

If anyone could please compare this to, say, Rotel RB-1070/80, Primare A30.2, Emotiva RPA-1, etc, that would be great!!
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I always tend to say that amps have strengths for either fine music or kick ass HT, I think the Outlaw amps would fit in the later, not to say they are **** for music but I wouldn't think someone would go for something like a Parasound Halo for dedicated HT usage, likewise neither would be crap for their use, but IMHO some amps are best suited for one or the other, like ATI, I don't think IMHO anyone would beat them in shear HT playback but they are not the best for fine music

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Finished up my Outlaw tower of power! Just in time, almost done with HT space so I'll be able to move them down there!


Ok now dude, that just rocks, here is the deal:

I demand some feedback on that setup

because I own the same Onkyo 885 as you may know and I have been wanting to grab 5 of the Outlaw 2200's

that also looks like a Sony 995 which I just love also

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Ok now dude, that just rocks, here is the deal:

I demand some feedback on that setup

because I own the same Onkyo 885 as you may know and I have been wanting to grab 5 of the Outlaw 2200's

that also looks like a Sony 995 which I just love also

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Onkyo is the 805 which settled for last Thursday because I got tired of waiting for a 9.8.. funny though.. I just got a message that a guy here in Portland has one to sell me right now.. I am DYING over that ARGGGGG!!!!!! Maybe it’s for the best, the 805 will do everything I need it to do in the HT.

Ill have better reviews when it gets down to my theater. The system is in my smaller bonus room on my top floor now and its not the best for acoustics but ya, I can turn it up and easily hear it 6+ houses down. My neighbors are getting pretty mad, they can pretty much hear my movies like they are watching them in the house. That was with 5 2200's and an Onkyo 100 watt amp powering the rears.

I actually use them mainly for music right now through the PS3. Usually in 2.1 config mode and I love the sound. Probably not as good as those Halo’s at all but pretty damn nice! I'd like to get 2 more 2200's to biamp the rti12's

The HT has the start of good acoustics and a hell of a lot of sound proofing.

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Ok, I'm giving this a shot:

OLD setup:
Lexicon MC12 with Parasound 2205/Parasound 1000, Monster Reference RCA Cables

NEW setup:
Onkyo Pro PR-SC885P (aka Integra 9.8) with 7 Outlaw 2200 Monoblocks, Outlaw XLR Cables

HD DVD Player: Toshiba XA2 v2.7

Speakers:
Kef Reference Three front, Reference Two side, Reference 200 Center, Q15.2 rear, TDM45 Sub.

I know my old setup sounds very good, so I'm hoping to have similar results with the new setup and obviously lossless surround.
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Ok, I'm giving this a shot:

OLD setup:
Lexicon MC12 with Parasound 2205/Parasound 1000, Monster Reference RCA Cables

NEW setup:
Onkyo Pro PR-SC885P (aka Integra 9.8) with 7 Outlaw 2200 Monoblocks, Outlaw XLR Cables

HD DVD Player: Toshiba XA2 v2.7

Speakers:
Kef Reference Three front, Reference Two side, Reference 200 Center, Q15.2 rear, TDM45 Sub.

I know my old setup sounds very good, so I'm hoping to have similar results with the new setup and obviously lossless surround.


I'm running 5 of the 2200 with the Integra 9.8 and the combo sounds great! You will be pleased with that set-up sir.






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Wow, I forgot about this thread. I finished up my HT and moved all 7 2200's down into it. This picture was posted above in a post that wasn’t meant for it so I'll move it here. I love these little guys.


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I'm running 5 of the 2200 with the Integra 9.8 and the combo sounds great! You will be pleased with that set-up sir.

That looks awesome! Are you using a different amplifier for your main channels or are you not using 7.1?

How do you have these triggered?

Thanks!
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That looks awesome! Are you using a different amplifier for your main channels or are you not using 7.1?

How do you have these triggered?

Thanks!


It looks like hes using that Adcom amp there in the pics for his fronts.

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Hello,

I just purchase three 2200 for my Front and center speaker with My Harman Kardon AVR-745. My surround speaker drive by my AVR-745. The sound is Awesome, Punchier and clear like a crystal... Verry good Stuff!!!
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Why not save space and use a "monoblock construction" 5 or 7 channel amp, with discrete toroidal trannys for each channel like a Sherbourn 5 channel?
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Why not save space and use a "monoblock construction" 5 or 7 channel amp, with discrete toroidal trannys for each channel like a Sherbourn 5 channel?

I like the idea of being able to replace any unit I want at any time and move them into different casual theaters and systems I have around my house. Aka.. I could replace the 2 fronts down the road with a much better (and expensive) 2 channel amp and then move the 2 Outlaws to my bedroom system or heck, just sell 2

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I have 3 of the M2200 for my mains and center. Great improvement over my Pio.

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That looks awesome! Are you using a different amplifier for your main channels or are you not using 7.1?

How do you have these triggered?

Thanks!

Thx!

The 2200's are running L/C/R & LSB/RSB, the Adcom is running the LS/RS. Far as them being triggered, they are set to "Music" works great!

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I like the idea of being able to replace any unit I want at any time and move them into different casual theaters and systems I have around my house. Aka.. I could replace the 2 fronts down the road with a much better (and expensive) 2 channel amp and then move the 2 Outlaws to my bedroom system or heck, just sell 2

Same here. Also, I like the concept of mono amplifiers better than multi-channel amps
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The other reasons is this monoblock run very cool. The 5 or 7 channel like Outlaw or others are very hot and in summer time it's not a good thing in my Bunker
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how would you guys describe the outlaw sound? I've got my klipsch thx system on the way and am in the mood for some more power. I kinda like a slightly warmer sound but still clear and powerful. if i go big, it was probably between the cinenova grande or the NAD M25 but since that is some pretty big money for me, i considered just goin the cheaper route if i can still get a sound i like from them
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I'm also curious about the nature of these amps. I prefer a warmer sound. Can anyone comment on this?

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I am with lim and hot. I too am looking at getting the Klipcsh Ultra THX since I can get them at cost (they have HUGE markups!) and then adding outlaw amps if there are some great reviews.
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The 2200's SQ performance is fantastic, the sound (for my set-up) has a neutral character to them. They are not to warm, it is a just right sound to them. I would have to say the best way for me to describe their sound is smooth. No matter how loud you listen or low the detail will not be lost, those little nuances that are in music, and subtleties that are in a movie soundtrack are always there to hear. When playing movie soundtracks at any volume they can be dynamic/powerful when demoing your favorite movie clip, they will make your speaker/s system shine for you. I have enjoyed them since day one, and continue to do so, i have no problem recommending them to anyone. I heard plenty of amps the 2200's can hold their own with the best of them IMO, i say give them a shot, at their price point you can afford too.

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