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Old 08-23-2007, 10:16 PM
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sorry i wasn't talking about the pioneer, but yes denon have been characterized as bright or dry.

If you don't have first hand experience on the subject please refrain from speculation. I have owned many different Denon's and the last thing I would characterize them as is "bright" or "dry". In fact the Denon's are one of the smoothest sounding receivers out there, especially when it comes to music. I would say the Pioneer has a "brighter" sound to it than the Denon but this could be attributed more to the MCACC vs. the Audessey, than the actual amp section itself.

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Old 08-23-2007, 10:39 PM
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We're dieing here, let's get some user feedback on this model....please.


It seems as if only 2-3 people have this right now. So I suspect they are all trying to get set up and then maybe we can get some feedback. I hope to be set up sometime tomorrow and maybe have some news by the end of the weekend. But sometimes things just donot work out that way.

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I set up this bad boy this week in our magnolia show room and i hooked it up with the sony blu ray bdps1 , and it sounds amazing with vienna acoustic speakers with pcm. I had a customer that came in looking to buy the denon 3808 and i told him i just setup the 94. I gave him a demo using Dave Koz night at the movies Track # 12 Schindler's List (opening scene track). The 3808 sounded pretty bright while the 94 was alot smoother and warmer. I had both recievers on pure direct 2 channel. The customer was amazed on how well the 94 performed and placed an order. They are still back ordered till sept 16th... Im going to sell my 74 and upgrade to the 94!
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My HP n7674n Media Center PC, my PS3 and my NetGear Desktop Switch (GS108) are all Gigabit Ethernet. I use cat-7 cables for all. For streaming media wireless is sort of pathetic, don't you think?

Wow - you have a better network than many offices!

For streaming audio 802.11g WiFi is more than good enough. I've been doing it for a while with my Apple Airport Express and I've never, ever had a problem with dropouts.
Now if you want to stream HDTV over .11g, forget about, I'm not sure if 802.11n will really be up to it reliably.
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Does this receiver suffer the PCM LFE bug that plagued the previous model series until the firmware upgrades?
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One thing I'd like to learn from the owners of this receiver is how many input sources it can handle simultaneously. The HDMI inputs appear to be separate selectable sources, so that's great...but in total, how many programmable sources are there?
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Does this receiver suffer the PCM LFE bug that plagued the previous model series until the firmware upgrades?

My 94 does not have the PCM LFE bug like the 84. The 94 also does fine on component conversion to HDMI; on my 84 this looked pretty bad and could not be adjusted to pass the THX video tests found on many DVD's.
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One thing I'd like to learn from the owners of this receiver is how many input sources it can handle simultaneously. The HDMI inputs appear to be separate selectable sources, so that's great...but in total, how many programmable sources are there?

I can't imagine trying to connect and listen to more then one audio input source, 'simultaneously'. That is unless you are using the multi-room feature.

But from the manual I can see 4 optical and 2 coax for digital audio, XM Radio, LAN (for Win PC based content), 4 HDMI, 3 component, AM and FM, 6 s-video, 6 composite, 3 stereo analog, 1 multichannel analog (for SA-CD), Sirius radio, iPod input.

Depending on how you count them, (and these are only the inputs - and I didn't count the s-video and composite twice) I count 29 simultaneous inputs.

Now whether or not they are 'programmable', that's going to have to be answered by a programmer.

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I can't imagine trying to connect and listen to more then one audio input source, 'simultaneously'. That is unless you are using the multi-room feature.

But from the manual I can see 4 optical and 2 coax for digital audio, XM Radio, LAN (for Win PC based content), 4 HDMI, 3 component, AM and FM, 6 s-video, 6 composite, 3 stereo analog, 1 multichannel analog (for SA-CD), Sirius radio, iPod input.

Depending on how you count them, (and these are only the inputs - and I didn't count the s-video and composite twice) I count 29 simultaneous inputs.

Now whether or not they are 'programmable', that's going to have to be answered by a programmer.

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Counting the inputs on the rear of the device doesn't tell you much of anything I'm afraid. For example, the Denon 3808CI has 4 HDMI inputs, 3 component, 7 s/composite video, etc. However, all of those inputs can be mixed and matched in whatever combination, and assigned, to only seven source labels: DVD, HDP, TV/CBL, SAT, DVR, VCR, and V.AUX. This means if you have more than seven video sources, they cannot all be left connected to the receiver and selected independently.

I was naturally not referring to the ability to actually view all these sources at the same time. I simply want to know how many video sources can be connected at once to the Pioneer 94 and independently selected.

Any owners of this receiver have an answer?
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Page 68 of the manual lists...

Input Source
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DVD/LD
BD
TV/SAT
DVR/VCR1
DVR/VCR2
VIDEO/GAME1
VIDEO/GAME2
HDMI 1 (HDMI-1)
HDMI 2 (HDMI-2)
HDMI 3 (HDMI-3)
HDMI 4 (VSX-94TXH)
HOME MEDIA GALLERY
XM
SIRIUS
CD
CD-R/TAPE/MD
TUNER
PHONO
MULTI CH IN
iPod
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That is the information I was looking for; thank you.

I've one other question for anyone who may know: how does the Faroudja DCDi in this receiver compare to the one in the Sony 5300ES (which was quite favorably reviewed by Cnet) and in the Denon 3808CI? Are they all the same version?
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I have a ps3 and my set is a rptv that is 1080i. I have the component breakout cables.

My question is, if I hooked up hdmi to the 94 (or 92) to get lossless audio from the ps3, could I hook up components cables from the 94 to my set for the 1080i image?
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I have a ps3 and my set is a rptv that is 1080i. I have the component breakout cables.

My question is, if I hooked up hdmi to the 94 (or 92) to get lossless audio from the ps3, could I hook up components cables from the 94 to my set for the 1080i image?

I'd be interested in hearing the answer to this question.

You could try it and if it didn't work you could connect the PS3 via component cables directly to the TV (bypassing the receiver). This would require changing the INPUT on the TV when you are playing/watching.

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Don't even bother, 530 watt power supply, same as the 84, 74, look at the high resolution rear view to see for yourself. Onkyo 805 here I come (875 watt power supply). Still don't even know if the 94 handles DSD natively.

So what? The 84TXSi still delivered 122W x 7 All Channels Driven into 8 ohms at .1% THD as measured by Home Theater magazine.
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I'd be interested in hearing the answer to this question.

You could try it and if it didn't work you could connect the PS3 via component cables directly to the TV (bypassing the receiver). This would require changing the INPUT on the TV when you are playing/watching.

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Ah you know, that might just work! I had remembered that when I did the set-up on the ps3 that I had to choose between either component or hdmi, so I figured that if I chose hdmi, then no signal would come out of component. But what I had forgotten is that there is also a separate set-up question for audio, either hdmi or optical (or composite). So I'm assuming it would let you have the ps3 set for component for video and hdmi for audio (though I have no way of checking this for sure).
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I'm confused about the "B" speaker configuration. (pg 57 in manual)

My current set up is 6.1 (2 surrounds and 1 back center speaker).

If I want to run speakers to bedroom, do I insert wiring for "B" speakers as well as center rear on the back panel? If I select SP->AB does that mean I'll get full surround in main room and 2-channel sound in bedroom?

I don't see how this would work.
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My HP n7674n Media Center PC, my PS3 and my NetGear Desktop Switch (GS108) are all Gigabit Ethernet. I use cat-7 cables for all. For streaming media wireless is sort of pathetic, don't you think?


ok first thing Cat7 does not exist.

second thing do a test some time. copy a large file over 10/100 and then gigbit on a home switch.

there won't be a noticable diffrence in speed.

Wireless in the 'G' format is more than enough for streaming audio.
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How do you guys think this will compare to the Sony STR-DA5300ES? I've been using my Pioneer VSX-09TX for over 10 years now so I guess it's time to get a new one I like the way it's sounds so I've been thinking of sticking with Pioneer. But the Sony I previously mentioned is tempting, mostly because it has 6 hdmi inputs, but also because I can get it very cheap. I have no experience with Sony sound though. Do you guys think the VSX-94TXH will sound better than that Sony?
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I'm not sure if the 84 had this limitation as well, but the 94 does not seem to accept 1080p over component (as from an xbox 360 for instance). I expected that it would, so I thought I would share this with you.

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Nope, you could hook the PS3 directly to the TV. No licensed component will output component from an HDMI input.
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ok first thing Cat7 does not exist.

second thing do a test some time. copy a large file over 10/100 and then gigbit on a home switch.

there won't be a noticable diffrence in speed.

Wireless in the 'G' format is more than enough for streaming audio.


I checked yesterday. The cables are cat-6. I knew they were the best available for gigabit.

Someday, I'll have to pull out an older switch to run the bandwidth comparison test.

I am streaming video (SD current - HD future) from my media center PC to my PS3 and playing it thru my 94 receiver on my 52' Mitsubishi DLP 720P
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Nope, you could hook the PS3 directly to the TV. No licensed component will output component from an HDMI input.

So where do I get an unlicensed component that will do this? Is there a forum for that sort of thing? ;-)
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second thing do a test some time. copy a large file over 10/100 and then gigbit on a home switch.

You keep thinking that... Meanwhile the rest of us will enjoy the 100+ Mbit/sec speeds we get from gigabit.

That said, the 94 doesn't need gigabit to stream music. Even 10Mbit will work just fine.
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Can someone please comment on how warm the Pioneer gets during operation.

Does anybody have a hard time fitting the receiver on their shelf? They're huge this year!

I'm considering a Pioneer Elite to power some Def Tech speakers (2002 center, 7004 L/R, 4x BP2X surrounds) so I'd love some feedback from anybody with Def Techs using the Elite.

Thanks guys!
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Had the 94 on preorder with BB. Was told this past Wednesday that it would not be at BB until 9/30. Happened to stop in BB today (8/26) to pickup a printer cartridge when I saw the Manager of Magnolia. Asked him in passing when he expected the 94 to hit his store. He did a fast check on his computer, excused himself for a minute and walked back from the storeroom with a brand new 94....Talk about luck!! Only problem, the weekend is now over and work is tomorrow. Gonna be a rough work week knowing that puppy is waiting in the box for me to install....Next weekend can't come soon enough.
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Had the 94 on preorder with BB. Was told this past Wednesday that it would not be at BB until 9/30. Happened to stop in BB today (8/26) to pickup a printer cartridge when I saw the Manager of Magnolia. Asked him in passing when he expected the 94 to hit his store. He did a fast check on his computer, excused himself for a minute and walked back from the storeroom with a brand new 94....Talk about luck!! Only problem, the weekend is now over and work is tomorrow. Gonna be a rough work week knowing that puppy is waiting in the box for me to install....Next weekend can't come soon enough.

Cool, good to know. What is your setup you are hooking it to and what is it replacing?

We eagerly wait for your review.
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I put my order in for the 94 yesterday at BB. They said it would be in on the 31st. This friday can't come soon enough.

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I heard from a rep that Elite is going to be touting an even higher-end model at Cedia.

I have been wanting to know the same. A new flagship is long overdue. I will be at CEDIA so if they do not have a new one, they will be getting an earfull from me.

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