Originally Posted by evivbulgroz
Still no website update on marantz.com.
Interesting that the 8002 MSRP is more than that of the Elite 94 or even the Denon AVR 3808.
It seems the 8002 has less features than the Elite. Presumably the components are better?
Is the only difference between the 7002 and 8002 the fact that the 8002 has a copper chassis and more power?
Come on, the Marantz has that nice thick faceplate and that neat tuning gizmo.
The 8002 and the 94 are both inferior in most ways the Onkyo 805 (unless you run two video devices), the price declines as the receivers get better. Isn't marketing wonderful?
Ok, I'll admit if you care about upscaling in the receiver the Onkyo 875 does it better (it can upscale everything to 1080p instead of the 720p of the 805, but that along with another HDMI input is the only substantive difference between the 805 and 875 plus a $400 street premium) but a good 1080p HDTV will probably scale just fine so who cares if the receiver does it.
On a more serious note, how do you build a receiver with a 780 watt power supply (very good so far) that weighs 33 pounds unless you have enough fan capacity to launch an airplane or you use a class D switching amplifier (there goes the good sound) that is efficient enough to not throw a lot of heat. The Onkyo comes with an 875 watt power supply and massive heat sinks (thus the 51 pound weight) so the fan only needs to come on under a heavy load or if you put the thing in ventilation restricting cabinet.
From what I have seen (assuming the 8001 and 8002 have the same amplifier section), the Onkyos should have the best power and signal to noise numbers, the Marantz doesn't have much power from what I found for the 8001 http://hometheatermag.com/floorlouds...oy/index4.html
, the Pioneer is powered by a hamster wheel (530 watt power supply). The Pioneer has neither power nor is it the best preamp, I don't understand the attraction of this unit at all (shiny black case?).
I have never liked the UI nor the sound of Denons, my brother's sounds very tinny (AVR-3803), this is a step down from the one you would compare to the 8002 though, and his is a PITB to use (I hear the UI is drastically improved on the latest though, can't speak for the sound).