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So I've been thinking about upfgrading my audio for my home theater. I'm not really an audiophile, but I would like to "pump" it up a bit. And with the HTIB that I have now, I don't think I'll have to do to much before I notice a big difference. I have been reading reviews and the forum for reciever and speaker options, but find that quite a few of you have more money to spend on this stuff than I do. I''ve really only got about $1000 to spend on a new receiver and speakers. This would have to be a 5.1 system at least and fill a room 11x21 with nice bass and full sound.
So what I'm hoping for is that some of you audiophiles, and semi-philes can suggest a few good choices. Good not only in the sound and features, but in the quality of the product and the company. I'd hate spend the money only to find out the company sucks, and so on.

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Difficult.

If you could go up to $1500, you'd open up some more opportunities.

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I'm in the process of putting together such a system. I bought a panasonic XR57 AVR, LCR X-series mains from AV123, a pair of pioneer SHF-21's for surrounds from Parts Express and now I'm researching subs. Total cost so far, $790.00
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So I've been thinking about upfgrading my audio for my home theater. I'm not really an audiophile, but I would like to "pump" it up a bit. And with the HTIB that I have now, I don't think I'll have to do to much before I notice a big difference. I have been reading reviews and the forum for reciever and speaker options, but find that quite a few of you have more money to spend on this stuff than I do. I''ve really only got about $1000 to spend on a new receiver and speakers. This would have to be a 5.1 system at least and fill a room 11x21 with nice bass and full sound.
So what I'm hoping for is that some of you audiophiles, and semi-philes can suggest a few good choices. Good not only in the sound and features, but in the quality of the product and the company. I'd hate spend the money only to find out the company sucks, and so on.

Any suggestions are welcome

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Take a look at HTIB Alternatives thread in the Home Theater In a Box Forum for ideas of what you could put together - it's definitely worth the read. Meanwhile, here are some examples from my own perspective.

For $1K, you can get the following 5.1 speaker set ($650 shipped) from Elemental Designs (http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/index.php):

4 x A3-5TC bookshelf
1 x A6-5T5 center
1 x A2-300 subwoofer

The speakers and particularly the sub have received very good comment from Craigsub here on AVS, for example. Pair them with either:

Yamaha RX-V661 AVR from Butterfly Photo (http://www.butterflyphoto.com/shop/p...ivers-_-RXV661) for around $370 shipped or

Sony STR-DG910 AVR from J&R (http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4171347) for around $360 shipped or

Onkyo TX-SR605 AVR from Amazon for around $380 shipped
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Onkyo TX-SR605 - $380
Ahena C1.2 Center Channel - $100
Athena R1.2 Bi-Pole Surrounds - $80/each - $160 total
Athena F2.2 Towers - $200 each - $400 total

Total = $1040

TXSR605:
TXSR6605 at amazon

Athena Sale:
http://www.audioadvisor.com

Athena is manufactured by same company that does Energy Speakers ( my personal favorite ) and Mirage.

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[quote=Wurms;11629428]Onkyo TX-SR605 - $380
Ahena C1.2 Center Channel - $100
Athena R1.2 Bi-Pole Surrounds - $80/each - $160 total
Athena F2.2 Towers - $200 each - $400 total

Total = $1040

Hi Wurms, I have that onkyo 605 but I didn't see it anywhere for 380, I got it from CC for 429. Oh well but I am so close to ordering those F2.2's but I have no way to audition them. Have you heard them? If so could you give me a description in your own words? I was hoping to go with the Boston Acoustics VR2 towers but I felt like they were too bright and crisp and seemed to have very little bass.
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If you could go up to $1500, you'd open up some more opportunities.

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I've really only got about $1000 to spend on a new receiver and speakers.

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Why not? My statement is accurate. My suggestion is for him to spend $1500. It opens up more opportunities.

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Definitely doable, MaximAvs.

Do you need/want HDMI capability?

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For the extra $200 for the Onkyo sr705 what is the main difference?
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Onkyo TX-SR605 - $380
Ahena C1.2 Center Channel - $100
Athena R1.2 Bi-Pole Surrounds - $80/each - $160 total
Athena F2.2 Towers - $200 each - $400 total

Total = $1040

Hi Wurms, I have that onkyo 605 but I didn't see it anywhere for 380, I got it from CC for 429. Oh well but I am so close to ordering those F2.2's but I have no way to audition them. Have you heard them? If so could you give me a description in your own words? I was hoping to go with the Boston Acoustics VR2 towers but I felt like they were too bright and crisp and seemed to have very little bass.

The onkyo 605 is $399 now at amazon. Do a search, its there. It was $380 yesterday Pisses me off too caue I recently got the 604 for $350, lol.

I have not heard the Athena's, but like I said, they are same manufacturer as Energy and Mirage. I own Energy speakers and a Mirage sub and LOVE them immensely.

Audioadvisor.com does have a 30 day return policy:

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Even if I said they were great (who am I anyways ), you wont know until you try them, unfortunately

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spend the money on the speakers. what is wrong with the receiver you already have? if it will do for now then wait until you can get a new one. save your pennies. the speakers are much more important than the receiver.

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Definitely doable, MaximAvs.

Do you need/want HDMI capability?


HDMI Would be great!!

Hey thanks everyone for the great info!!

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spend the money on the speakers. what is wrong with the receiver you already have? if it will do for now then wait until you can get a new one. save your pennies. the speakers are much more important than the receiver.

The reciver I have right now is actually a HTIB, (Panasonic) and it gets powered through the sub on a propriatary cable. Which is sort of why I want a seperate setup with a reciever and speakers.

With all suggestions so far I'm hoping for a good clear sound and some good bass. I don't really need to have LOUD to fill an auditorium, but loud to feel it in the room I have.

Keep the suggestions coming guys!!

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I have been looking up the different suggestions so far, and I notice a common theme. Most of these speakers are pretty good size. Does size directly relate to sound? I was hoping that I could get smaller speakers with full sound, because my speakers sit out in the room, and I kind of like the speakers NOT being a prodominent feature of the room decor.
Again, am I being a little unresonable for the money I have to spend?!

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What ever you do get a mean sub. Sub demand is key, the Parts Express 15" Kit is still a killer deal where meeting high demand and overall impact is of great importance.
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Certainly "most" larger speakers will play louder, but that is not what's most important, unless you like to hurt your ears. But if you go with itty-bitty speakers then the frequency response from them may be lacking. So larger speakers are preferred not for their ability to play loud(er), but for their ability to play over a wider range of frequencies.

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You can get close to audiophile sound at the $1,500 level. Go to Ascend Acoustics and use their configurator, or to Axiom Audio for a speaker package. Ask about B-stock at either site and save also. Get a terrific SVS sub (PB10-NSD) for $429 or go with the Axiom sub (good but not as good as the SVS). Then go to harmanaudio.com and look for a fully warranted refurb receiver under "specials." If you have to stay under $1k, get the Athena Micra 6 or the Def Tech ProCinema 600 and a refurb H/K receiver.

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OK, I've decided on the Onkyo TX-SR605. It seems like it has a lot of bang for the buck.

Wurms, I'm looking at the Athena R1.2 Bi-Pole Surrounds, I'm wondering if they will be fine as rear speakers or would they be better served if they were at the sides of the room or both!!

Thanks everyone for the info. If you come across any other great deals on speakers, let me know!!

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I have been looking up the different suggestions so far, and I notice a common theme. Most of these speakers are pretty good size. Does size directly relate to sound? I was hoping that I could get smaller speakers with full sound, because my speakers sit out in the room, and I kind of like the speakers NOT being a prodominent feature of the room decor.
Again, am I being a little unresonable for the money I have to spend?!

Thanks guys

I was like you, I really wanted smaller speakers instead of towers and such. Here is what I went with :

Harman Kardon AVR-247 - $355 @Amazon. Great sound, very versatile and plenty of power.

Cerwin-Vega VE-5M Satellite speakers - $99/pair @Amazon
Cerwin-Vega VE-5C Center Speaker - $79 @Amazon
Velodyne VRP-1200 Sub - $359 @Amazon

Total : $991

Although Cerwin Vegas are not among the top recommended speakers herre at AVS, I disagree with most on these. Great sound for lower cost than many from a well established company. Excellent for Home Theater, imo. And well within your budget.

The HK AVR247 is much more flexible and better sounding than the Onkyo you've had recommended.

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Thanks for the heads up on those speakers! I will check them out!

I'm leaning to the Onkyo because I owned an Onkyo in years past and was very happy with the performance and price. But I appriceate your alternate suggestion!!

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Past experience certainly has its place, that is why HK was on my list to look at when I was researching. I had looked at Onkyo, but in the end HK won my heart and ears again.

The reasons I took the HK over the Onkyo (also on that list)

1. Smooth sweet HK sound. Nothing else sounds quite like an HK
2. Video upconversion from component, composite and Svideo to HDMI.
3. OSD over HDMI

Here's how I set mine up:

BluRay -->HDMI in --> HDMI out @1080i (max for my TV)
HDDVD --> HDMI in --> HDMI out @1080i
Dish HDDVD Sat receiver --> Component vid/Optical aud in --> HDMI out @720p

HDMI upconversion from other sources is maxed out at 720p on the HK. Because of all the compression and such that sat and cable providers do, I can see no difference between them at 1080i vs 720p.

Because I only needed HDMI to the TV, this helped clean up the wiring mess a bit. All but one wire is all managed behind my A/V rack.

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Here's the biggest bang I see for your buck right now.

KEF 5.1 system - $500 at Circuit City, possibly cheaper depending on whether you have 10% off coupon

HK AVR 247 - $353 shipped from Amazon. Go for the 347 if you really want to spend more.

edit - Bah, sorry I don't know how to link to Amazon. Search AVR 247 and you'll find it.
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Ok...dillema..

I just came across the Denon AVR-687. Looks promising!!

Any thoughts?!!

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Here's the biggest bang I see for your buck right now.

KEF 5.1 system - $500 at Circuit City, possibly cheaper depending on whether you have 10% off coupon

HK AVR 247 - $353 shipped from Amazon. Go for the 347 if you really want to spend more.

edit - Bah, sorry I don't know how to link to Amazon. Search AVR 247 and you'll find it.

Thats probably very "sound" advice and I know KEF speakers get awesome reviews. I just can't get over how funky their speakers look with the round egg shape styling. I would recommend the Onkyo TX-SR605 as an alternative receiver since I have one and I love it. $380 at Amazon with free delivery.
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Looks like that deal for the Onkyo 605 at Amazon, is gone now!!

Bummer

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