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post #91 of 4755 Old 01-03-2007, 02:48 PM
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Probably not. Maybe match. the C272 is a better amp by a little bit, but the preamp sections of more receivers are pretty pathetic and that often makes a bigger difference.

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You might just get the T975 amp. Basically an M25 is sheep's clothing for $500 less.

25 Lbs. less and smaller. Any idea what the differences are inside?

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titanium case vs aluminum + larger power supply easily add up to 25lbs....
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The T975 also has a little less power. ( 140 vs 160 ). So Im sure the heat sinks in the Master series are a little larger too.
I was going to get the T985 reciver but its not coming out untill May now. I couldnt wait that long. My dealer gave me a deal on a T163 / T955 combo. I got it for $1800. I know its no t175 but its a lot less money. You think thats a good price?
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The T975 also has a little less power. ( 140 vs 160 ). So Im sure the heat sinks in the Master series are a little larger too.
I was going to get the T985 reciver but its not coming out untill May now. I couldnt wait that long. My dealer gave me a deal on a T163 / T955 combo. I got it for $1800. I know its no t175 but its a lot less money. You think thats a good price?

Where did you hear about the May date for the T985? I was told that the T985 & T175 were suppose to be out at the same time(March 07). I wonder if the T175 has been pushed back also?

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My dealer gave me a deal on a T163 / T955 combo. I got it for $1800. I know its no t175 but its a lot less money. You think thats a good price?

sounds like a very good deal if you ask me. Both components retail for $1499.00 each.

So, how do you like your T163 so far? Are you using multi-channel inputs for SACD and DVD-A?
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Alimentall, do you think a entry level receiver with pre outs and a nad c272 150x2 would outperform a nad t773 in 2channel?

I'm using 3 NAD C272 amps (total of 150W X 6), combined with a Yamaha RX-V1600 as pre-pro. Man this is a "killer" set-up!
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I went on the NAD help center and asked when they will be released. They sent me back a message that said early May.
As for the SACD inputs on the T163 I have not used them yet. Right now I have a cheap Sony SACD player and it dosent have any bass mangement, plus I just havent had time yet. I like it so far. In the book it said it didnt up do the OSD out compent but it does !! It even takes composet and puts it out componet !! The books says no but it does, it has a sticker on the box that says version 2.0? I just got a NAD 521 cd player too. Im thinking about the NAD T534 but I've heard it locks up in SACD mode sometimes?
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Im thinking about the NAD T534 but I've heard it locks up in SACD mode sometimes?

Well, I sure hope so, it's not an SACD player!

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It's already been suggested that the T175 is back to April. Unfortunately, that could really mean summer, even late summer/early fall. This is just how electronics goes. They forecast based on what they are told by their parts vendors and then someone can't produce and the whole thing gets held up. I love NAD and enjoy selling it, but for now, I'm just rocking on the NHT Controller/Power5 and/or Masters setups, Masters for the hardcore audiophiles, NHT for the people that are looking for all the HDMI goodies and upgradeability. It is what it is.

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Im thinking about the NAD T534 but I've heard it locks up in SACD mode sometimes?

yeah, this model player does'nt support SACD. However, I did read some accounts from other T534 users claiming it locked-up while playing DVD-A disc's.

I would go for a Denon, or Pioneer Elite, player. I just purchased a new Denon DVD-3930CI player it's very nice, and plays all formats (ie. SACD, DVD-A, etc.,...).
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Well, I sure hope so, it's not an SACD player!

My bad, I meant DVD-Audio.
Thanks for the info on the other models.
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25 Lbs. less and smaller. Any idea what the differences are inside?

M25: 7 X 160 watts, 20Hz - 20kHz, at less than 0.03% THD

T975: 7 X 140 watts, 20Hz - 20kHz, at less than 0.08% THD

C272: 2 X 150 watts, 20 - 20kHz, at less than 0.02% THD

The T975 uses a unique variable speed fan cooling system that was first introduced on the M25 Masters Series amplifier.
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I could be wrong about the T975, I'd gotten the impression that it was essentially identical. On the other hand, they could be purposely lowballing the T975s numbers. I'll have to look inside when I get one.

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It's already been suggested that the T175 is back to April. Unfortunately, that could really mean summer, even late summer/early fall. This is just how electronics goes. They forecast based on what they are told by their parts vendors and then someone can't produce and the whole thing gets held up. I love NAD and enjoy selling it, but for now, I'm just rocking on the NHT Controller/Power5 and/or Masters setups, Masters for the hardcore audiophiles, NHT for the people that are looking for all the HDMI goodies and upgradeability. It is what it is.

exactly why I just bought a Proceed AVP2+6.....can't live the wait game, so i'm gonna sit put with the Proceed till the dust settles.

hopefully by christmas time, the T175s will be fully stocked at decent street prices, and I'll have my blu-ray player in place to replace the PS3.

till then, the Proceed will take care of poppa!
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I love NAD and enjoy selling it, but for now, I'm just rocking on the NHT Controller/Power5 and/or Masters setups, Masters for the hardcore audiophiles, NHT for the people that are looking for all the HDMI goodies and upgradeability.

how has product performance and quality been with the NHT controller (and amp for that matter)? As compared to the NAD stuff (Master's, etc.,...)?
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Been emailing my dealer when I read the dates have been pushed back. He talked to NAD and they said the pieces are still shipping in February. We shall see!

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Been emailing my dealer when I read the dates have been pushed back. He talked to NAD and they said the pieces are still shipping in February. We shall see!

that would be nice!
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Been emailing my dealer when I read the dates have been pushed back. He talked to NAD and they said the pieces are still shipping in February. We shall see!

Greg at NAD says "internet rumor" and Stephen says "more info this week"

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how has product performance and quality been with the NHT controller (and amp for that matter)? As compared to the NAD stuff (Master's, etc.,...)?

Really competitive. Masters, IMO, is a bit better in terms of raw performance overall, but I think the NHT is a definite step up from the T163's performance. NHT's amp is very fast sounding. It has a lot of zip without being bright. That's seems to be somewhat common with the better digital amps.

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I think the NHT is a definite step up from the T163's performance.

thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know.

You ever try one of the NHT A1 mono amps? Are they good?
http://nhthifi.com/2006/products/ht/a1.html
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Greetings John,
I just bought the M15/M25 combo - so far so good. Do you know if they will be be offering HDMI board upgrades or RC for the M15 in the future like Anthem does and will?
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thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know.

You ever try one of the NHT A1 mono amps? Are they good?
http://nhthifi.com/2006/products/ht/a1.html

Yes, they're pretty good! I have a lot of customers who use stacks of them. I think I like the new NHTs and the big NADs a bit better though.

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Greetings John,
I just bought the M15/M25 combo - so far so good. Do you know if they will be be offering HDMI board upgrades or RC for the M15 in the future like Anthem does and will?

I don't know, to be honest. It's not something NAD has ever done, so I wouldn't count on it. It could happen, hopefully it will, but I tell people not to expect it, just to be safe. The new platform looks far more easy to upgrade, probably in the field even, but even then, I have to keep expectations reasonable, just in case. Even so, it wouldn't make sense to add the expensive of modularity for no reason.

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I don't know, to be honest. It's not something NAD has ever done, so I wouldn't count on it. It could happen, hopefully it will, but I tell people not to expect it, just to be safe. The new platform looks far more easy to upgrade, probably in the field even, but even then, I have to keep expectations reasonable, just in case. Even so, it wouldn't make sense to add the expensive of modularity for no reason.

Keep it in mind next time you talk to them. They might not have done it in the past because of their price-point philosophy, and past magagement, but maybe with Lenbrook and the move up in weight class.....
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I will give it my best shot and let you know if I hear anything.

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You ever try one of the NHT A1 mono amps? Are they good?
http://nhthifi.com/2006/products/ht/a1.html

They're basically identical to the Outlaw monoblocks FWIW.
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They're basically identical to the Outlaw monoblocks FWIW.

really? that's interesting. Are they made by the same manufacturer?
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I,ve read someone saying here Nad has a "ugly", out of date, design.
With all due respect, Sir, try some of Aiwa flashy gamey thing out of BestBuy or CCity!
One of the most respectful signature Nad has to offer besides its truthful sound, is its simplicity, minimalist approach to designs.
Please.
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Alimentall, how would you rate either the M25 or the T975 against the Anthem Statement A5? Sure, the A5 is a 5-channel design whereas both NADs are 7-channel. How would these amps stack up in a 5.1 environment?
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