Originally Posted by Hyfi
And I suppose your in the Everything sounds the same camp?
As compared to being in the "Everything sounds different" camp?
A $100 AVR will sound every bit as good as a $1000 amp.
It might, or it might not. Why does a difference in price tag necessarily cause the sound to be different with the more expensive equipment providing the better sound?
Are aware of the cases where some expensive products turn out to be far less costly products with different labels or different cases?
Again, great, your audio hobby is on the cheap and you can't hear the differences anyway.
So you want to play the class warfare card?
Are you unaware of the scientific evidence that shows that one performance reaches certain now readily achievable levels, both differences and improvements can't be heard?
I have 3 different amps that when placed between the same pre and speakers using the same CDP and music, produce different sounding output, regardless of the specs, price, or quality of amp.
A meaningless exercise unless levels are matched closely and the identity of the alternatives is concealed from the listener.
I won't use the word "better" here, just different and 3 different people will prefer 3 different sounding outputs. Why? Because we all hear the same things a little differently.
As individuals we hear the same things differently, depending on the circumstances. This is where many perceptions of audible differences that defy science come from.
You know as well as I do that is is an ongoing and never ending argument.
For many, the argument ends with a proper inspection of the relevant facs.
Nobody can prove that numbers on a paper sound better than certain gear with lesser numbers.
That is a false claim, depending on which numbers and what range of values you are talking about. The irony of present technology is that often expensive equipment measures far more poorly.
What do you use to listen to music? Only one correct answer, your ears.
The above seems to be a very naive and is certainly a very incorrect answer. In fact we hear with our brains, with the ears only acting as intermediaries. The brain is arguably the most powerful organ in the body. It interprets the senses in conjunction with past experiences including what we think we have learned.