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No, air in the room has pretty low humidity. The copper has oxidized along the entire length of the cables, the cable covering is clear. When new, I remember the copper being much brighter. Just wondering if this would affect sound?

I've experienced this problem many times in the past. The first time I saw it, the speaker cable that was involved was actually Monster cable.

One source of chemicals that corrode copper can be the plastic insulation of the wire itself.

Wire insulation on wire fits pretty tightly and is itself usually pretty air tight. IME the corrosion is limited to just the ends of the wire, and maybe a fraction of an inch under the insulation at each end. The wire in the middle of the cable usually remains pretty bright. Therefore, if there is corrosion the length of the wire, the insulation itself is probably the cause.

That all said, most corrosion is very superficial. I've soldered wire that was oxidized this way by cleaning its surface with fine (wet/dry) sandpaper. As you probably know, corroded metal does not take solder, so the ability to clean it up with fine sandpaper and solder it is strong evidence that the corrosion was very superficial.

I've also done electrical tests of wire that was superficially corroded this way, and there were no measurable differences, provided I was still able to make a solid electrical connection to the wire itself. Generally the connectors will be tight enough so that the superficial corrosion does not reduce their conductivity.

Bottom line, don't worry about superficial corrosion unless you want to reuse the wire and either solder it or install different connectors. If you are soldering it or changing the connectors then clean the wire carefully with very find sandpaper - maybe 150 grit or finer.

I have seen electrical tape with sulfur in it (self vulcanizing rubber tape) actually corrode fine strands and eliminate or signfiicantly reduce conductivity.
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The copper in my aged clear speaker cables seems to be turning green. Is this affecting the sound?

No, unless they're so corroded that the insulation is drying out and cracking. (I've seen that happen in a car, but never in a home.) If the insulation is that degraded, you could theoretically get touching conductors.
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Should I spring for a new pair?

Next time you move the wires around, or change the amps or speakers, yes. Or if you just don't like the way they look.

The corrosion thing is one reason why I generally prefer Teflon insulation to PVC, though the bigger reason is that Teflon insulation is generally thinner.

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Hello,
I am quite newbie here... I planning my HT, where audio parts will be>

AVR: Denon X2200W
Front: Klipsch RP-260
Rear: Infinity Alpha 40 - temporary
Sub: Klipsch R-115SW

I had 10years regular low-price Cu speakers cable... but now I think it will deserve at least something better.

But the main question are:

1] is it recommended to solder end of the speaker cables to avoid oxidation?
2] is it ok to use forks at the end of each cable? -or the cable became worst due the higher impedancy?:



3]I was thinking about bi-amp my front speakers, and solder end of the regular speaker cables and uuse the forks plugs, bad idea?

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I had 10years regular low-price Cu speakers cable... but now I think it will deserve at least something better.
No you don't. I can't/won't happen.
Use what you have and enjoy.
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No you don't. I can't/won't happen.
Use what you have and enjoy.
Since I wanna bi-amp solution for front speakers...I've decided for AudioQuest FLX/SLiP 14/4 grey cables...they are not so expensive...

now I am thiking about the fork plugs...

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Since I wanna bi-amp solution for front speakers...I've decided for AudioQuest FLX/SLiP 14/4 grey cables...
That's two method's of wasting your money.

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That's two method's of wasting your money.
I just dont like the oxiding proces on cables
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Your old cables are fine, so is using spade connectors. I have Nakamichis as well.


Don't bother with passive bi-amping, it does nothing.
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Your old cables are fine, so is using spade connectors. I have Nakamichis as well.
Don't bother with passive bi-amping, it does nothing.
Amen brother!
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I just dont like the oxiding proces on cables
The oxidized layer of copper protects the rest of the copper, its not like iron rust where it just goes further and further and further and further and further and further. It has ZERO effect on the sound. You don't notice when a train runs over a coin. If it really bothers you five years from now you can always remove the tip half inch and have fresh copper again. Don't give money to anyone who wants to sell you expensive cables!
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