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good or bad depends on what the goal is, I'd say yours looks a shade on the dead side. If you want a reference then tou can look for things like EBU3276 calculators which tend to show target times in the 0.3-0.4s range for normal sized rooms.
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IMO, T30 and its cousins dont have much to say about small rooms. And they have even less to say whether when music is playing whether it sounds dead or not.

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For T30?

IMO, T30 and its cousins dont have much to say about small rooms. And they have even less to say whether when music is playing whether it sounds dead or not.
Ok then we have two votes now. NO need to worry about this RT30 anymore.
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Ok then we have two votes now. NO need to worry about this RT30 anymore.
Yes, let's move on, please. Plenty of other more relevant things to worry about.
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Yes, let's move on, please. Plenty of other more relevant things to worry about.
Jerry you pointed out once to take Channel+Sub reading to see how they work together. Before that, I always used to take reading of each channel separately to see how that channel is working with sub.
Question: What's the difference b/w looking at a channel on its own vs channel+sub? Running only channel includes sub response so then why do we need to include sub as another channel?

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Jerry you pointed out once to take Channel+Sub reading to see how they work together. Before that, I always used to take reading of each channel separately to see how that channel is working with sub.
Question: What's the difference b/w looking at a channel on its own vs channel+sub? Running only channel includes sub response so then why do we need to include sub as another channel?

You misunderstood. The proper procedure is to measure a specific channel, say the left speaker, with the speaker set to "small" and with a crossover. The sub, by virtue of bass management, receives the frequencies below the crossover, so the measurment results in a combined left+sub, and clearly shows the smoothness of the splice between the two.

It would be a mistake to add the LFE channel to the measurement, so don't know where you got that idea.
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You misunderstood. The proper procedure is to measure a specific channel, say the left speaker, with the speaker set to "small" and with a crossover. The sub, by virtue of bass management, receives the frequencies below the crossover, so the measurment results in a combined left+sub, and clearly shows the smoothness of the splice between the two.

It would be a mistake to add the LFE channel to the measurement, so don't know where you got that idea.
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Looks like you already got a response in the PSA thread: Official Power Sound Audio Subwoofer Thread

Have you tried Hop's suggestions? Your problem is not uncommon, and following the recommendation above often solves the issues you are encountering. As the I Ching says "perseverance furthers"
Yes I have tried it, twice on two different computers, a PC and laptop with the same results. I'm getting the same thing for the output device in the sound card preferences, HD audio 1 and 2. I just dojn't understand what else to do. My UMIK-1 is the default device and did the voice test so I know it's working. Why won't it recognize the UMIK-1? Any suggestions would be appreciated, sorry if I'm high jacking this thread.
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Yes I have tried it, twice on two different computers, a PC and laptop with the same results. I'm getting the same thing for the output device in the sound card preferences, HD audio 1 and 2. I just dojn't understand what else to do. My UMIK-1 is the default device and did the voice test so I know it's working. Why won't it recognize the UMIK-1? Any suggestions would be appreciated, sorry if I'm high jacking this thread.
Do you have the umik checked in the asio driver settings? Make sure the icon next to it is lit up in asio. Otherwise, you could try uninstalling the umik and reinstalling it. Locate the umik in the sound devices, click preferences and uninstall driver. Restart computer, then plug mic in and reinstall. Also, make sure its set to the default device in the sound settings. Seems rew/ asio can be a bit buggy sometimes, at least for me

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Try disabling all other input devices. It solved the same problem for me.

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To do this, right click the speaker icon, recording devices, right click on each device, choose disable, do this for all devices except the umik.

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Yes I have tried it, twice on two different computers, a PC and laptop with the same results. I'm getting the same thing for the output device in the sound card preferences, HD audio 1 and 2. I just dojn't understand what else to do. My UMIK-1 is the default device and did the voice test so I know it's working. Why won't it recognize the UMIK-1? Any suggestions would be appreciated, sorry if I'm high jacking this thread.
OK, let's do a quick review. Answer each question, please.

- In Windows Audio, under the Recording Devices, is the UMIK-1 listed? Is it set as the default recording device?
- On the Advanced tab, are both Exclusive Mode options checked? If so, uncheck them (mine are unchecked).
- On the Advanced tab for Playback Device (HDMI), is the output set to 16 bit, 48000Hz?
- By "Voice Test", do you mean the Windows Sound Recorder? If yes, we can rule out a faulty mic.
- What version of REW are you running?
- After launching REW and opening the ASIO Control Panel, is the UMIK-1 even listed?
- On the Soundcard Preferences screen, switch to the Java driver. Open the Input Device drop-down. Is the UMIK-1 listed?

OK, here is what I think is happening: there is another application running in Windows that is using the microphone. REW requires exclusive use of the mic, and if anything else is using it, then REW will show "Not Connected" in the Input Device drop-down. What else could be using the mic? Don't know, other than some laptops come pre-configured with a soundcard control program that may be in your Startup Programs that is grabbing the mic. I don't know what your Windows skills are, but I would look for something else that is using the mic, like a webcam app.

If you are a hacker, read this: http://www.7tutorials.com/set-window...-other-devices
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Try disabling all other input devices. It solved the same problem for me.

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Tips like this are not very helpful unless you include some "how-to" steps. We don't know the OP's Windows skills.
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Tips like this are not very helpful unless you include some "how-to" steps. We don't know the OP's Windows skills.
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For looking at frequency response of my sub, can anyone confirm that I need to set the speakers to small in the avr, set the crossover point, and run just one of the fronts? Should that allow me to compare how the sub is blending with the speakers at the crossover point ? Or , do i run one of the speakers plus the sub channel in a sweep?

Edit. Looks like this was answered above

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OK, let's do a quick review. Answer each question, please.

- In Windows Audio, under the Recording Devices, is the UMIK-1 listed? Is it set as the default recording device?
- On the Advanced tab, are both Exclusive Mode options checked? If so, uncheck them (mine are unchecked).
- On the Advanced tab for Playback Device (HDMI), is the output set to 16 bit, 48000Hz?
- By "Voice Test", do you mean the Windows Sound Recorder? If yes, we can rule out a faulty mic.
- What version of REW are you running?
- After launching REW and opening the ASIO Control Panel, is the UMIK-1 even listed?
- On the Soundcard Preferences screen, switch to the Java driver. Open the Input Device drop-down. Is the UMIK-1 listed?

OK, here is what I think is happening: there is another application running in Windows that is using the microphone. REW requires exclusive use of the mic, and if anything else is using it, then REW will show "Not Connected" in the Input Device drop-down. What else could be using the mic? Don't know, other than some laptops come pre-configured with a soundcard control program that may be in your Startup Programs that is grabbing the mic. I don't know what your Windows skills are, but I would look for something else that is using the mic, like a webcam app.

If you are a hacker, read this: http://www.7tutorials.com/set-window...-other-devices
Thank you Jerry, I will go back and do each step you out lined and answer each question and get back to you. Thank you for all the help. I'm not a savvy computer wizard by any means. I know it has to be something I'm over looking. I'll be back.
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