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The fact that you are using Mac/Sunflower always makes it harder to provide the correct recommendations, since I have never see or used that interface. I assume that you are feeding your AVR two connections, one into the left channel and one into the right channel.
I did so, with RCA prior to HDMI, now Soundflower( sorry I mistyped last few posts)-that is virtual audio device, allows easy switching between HDMI 1-8 signal feeds( similar to ASIO on Windows)

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You only have 2 subs right? If so, you are never going to get a good response by spreading out the Audyssey mic positions like you are....just too much variation in the response for Audyssey to deal with.
Do a quick-n-dirty 3 point Audyssey cal - 1st at MLP, 2nd 6" to the right, 3rd 6" to the left - and re-measure with REW. I bet it will look a whole lot better.
Yes, two subs in front corners. Yes I tried to see if I can get uniform sound for most seats, but as you say, I will try to concentrate on front row, two mid seats and see what magic happens, will keep you all updated.

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You only have 2 subs right?
Now THAT would make an interesting poll.
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I did so, with RCA prior to HDMI, now Soundflower( sorry I mistyped last few posts)-that is virtual audio device, allows easy switching between HDMI 1-8 signal feeds( similar to ASIO on Windows)


Yes, two subs in front corners. Yes I tried to see if I can get uniform sound for most seats, but as you say, I will try to concentrate on front row, two mid seats and see what magic happens, will keep you all updated.

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Both subs up front?? Not a chance of smoothing over two rows of seating...you need to get one of the sub in back (or maybe on one of the side walls) to even come close.
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Yeah, I have room for one more sub in the back just by the riser for second row close to the door( needs to be less then 18 inches wide), no room on side walls( you can see the pics in my sig). And I have to sneak it in, so that my wife does not notice it

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WOW! Very nice looking theater!!

Yeah...that back row, being up against the back wall....it's gonna be impossible to get good bass back there.
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Thanks, I like my HT! I would have liked if I had 2-3 more feet of length but can't complain.
There are even more treatments on the walls now then in those pics, I have 24x24 inch MOnster Bass traps on back wall in corners and one more panel on side wall, so that helped a LOT compared to bare walls but treatments have their limits...

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No way that Audyssey on should be significantly worse than Audyssey off without some other contributing factor.
sinisanav and I have the Antimode + Audyssey MultEQ XT. With Antimode only, 20Hz - 200Hz is smooooth. Post-Audyssey, the bass region became worse. I've done many mic placement options and the result is the same. kbarnes suggested me to disable the Audyssey.

If you have XT32, things could be different due to the higher resolution.
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sinisanav and I have the Antimode + Audyssey MultEQ XT. With Antimode only, 20Hz - 200Hz is smooooth. Post-Audyssey, the bass region became worse. I've done many mic placement options and the result is the same. kbarnes suggested me to disable the Audyssey.

If you have XT32, things could be different due to the higher resolution.
Another test, of course, is to disable the Antimode and see what Audyssey does on its own. This still doesn't explain why Autimode+Audyssey is worse. I have used PEQ to present Audyssey with less work to do, and the results have always been positive.
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sinisanav and I have the Antimode + Audyssey MultEQ XT. With Antimode only, 20Hz - 200Hz is smooooth. Post-Audyssey, the bass region became worse. I've done many mic placement options and the result is the same. kbarnes suggested me to disable the Audyssey.

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Another test, of course, is to disable the Antimode and see what Audyssey does on its own. This still doesn't explain why Autimode+Audyssey is worse. I have used PEQ to present Audyssey with less work to do, and the results have always been positive.
I have just re-run Audyssey with different mic positions, more centered on three seats in first row, remeasured with REW, response is better but not optimal, I will post a few comparisons later today or tomorrow, I think it has to do with mic positioning when doing Audyssey, flatter response as I positioned mic closer to MLP . Nice to hear that other had same experience as I do. For better or worse...
Right now I am enjoying some music on the system, with Audyssey on, will try listening tomorrow with it off, to see if I can hear something different, listening to some Sting,Marvin Gaye, Stones, Dire Straits,Annie Lennox,Adele,Amy Winehouse,Stones,U2,Pink Floyd.... Good stuff, lots of drums,bas guitars
Like how Antimode has flattened things out, I am debating with myself should I even try Wider area correction. Skylinestar, have you ever tried that setup, or you just EQed MLP?

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So, here are the comparisons.
RED measurements are with Audyssey mics set in 8 positions in both rows of seating.
YELLOW measurements are from today where I have placed mic in 8 positions over three front row seats only.

You will see that all speakers have more uniform response, but not yet optimal. Tomorrow or over weekend will do ultimate odyssey setup concentrating only on two middle front row "premium seats"









Last one is subs only with Antimode(blue) only, and then Red with Audyssey in both rows and Yellow with front row only, again yellow looks better then red, but not as good as blue.



I think that every Yellow measurement looks better then Red. So, optimizing smaller area of the whole room for best response. I guess I will be a bit selfish when it comes to which chair to choose to sit in.

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If we could see the measurements, that would be great. How are you attaching them?

The question is, did you run Audyssey with the Antimode in bypass? We would like to see if there is an undesirable interaction between the two.
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Like how Antimode has flattened things out, I am debating with myself should I even try Wider area correction. Skylinestar, have you ever tried that setup, or you just EQed MLP?
I've never bothered with wider area correction as I want the best correction at the MLP.
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